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Kurgan 10-07-2004 12:37 PM

Jedi Killing
 
Somebody's going to hate me for this I just know it... but dang those Jedi are a tease! So much potential, but they just run around like dorks half the time or just stand around looking moody and blocking stuff.

Oh well. I had a bit of fun messing around trying to get them to do stuff.

It seems that Jedi ignore you when you're in a vehicle for some reason, even if you're attacking them.


Now we all know that Luke and Vader will block blaster bolts (even from vehicles) behind their backs and never take damage. Mace Windu bounces shots off his bald head (even without the saber). He'll also push back rockets. So I tried getting into a Walker and firing at the ground near them. They'd flip around and I'd see a blue "flash" (Force heal?) but they never took damage there either even though they fell flat on their backs from the splash damage of the explosions.

Finally, it hit me. Remember that scene where Luke chops the Speeder in half in ROTJ? Well what if he hadn't been paying attention?

http://strategy.jediknight.net/surprise.jpg

Sure enough, it works! A couple of light bumps will do the job or pickup some speed and WHOOMP (too bad it doesn't have quite the effect it does say in Jedi Academy, but oh well).

Here I ran over Lord Vader (that's for choking my buddies!): http://strategy.jediknight.net/roadkilljedi2.jpg

I went to Geonosis and tried to get Dooku and Mace together to see if I could get them to fight. Mace would follow me (mad that I kept shooting at him with my blaster even if it didn't hurt him), but Dooku would just run away! What a pansy...

http://strategy.jediknight.net/scareddooku.jpg

So he gets away (just like in the movie). In quite good shape for an old guy too! Always jogging. Anyway, I had to get rid of the Sam Jackson's avatar, so I get into my Wheel Droid:

http://strategy.jediknight.net/roadkilljedi1.jpg

Smoosh!

It seems the Wheel Droids, Speeders and bikes can run over the Jedi and kill them easily. But sadly you can't stomp on them with Walkers. : (

Anyway, I really think they need to fix the Jedi, along with the rest of the AI in the next patch. Hey, if they think the AI is too good, make it a new difficulty level, like "Extra Hard" or something.

Evil Dark Jedi 10-07-2004 02:44 PM

Yeah it is fun too kill jedi. I have on many occasions.

TK-8252 10-07-2004 04:11 PM

Re: Jedi Killing
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kurgan
http://strategy.jediknight.net/roadkilljedi1.jpg
Ahaha, that's a good screen.

This party's over

Neon 10-08-2004 01:33 PM

Hehe, so with a speeder bike you just have to ride over them? :eek:
thanks, I oculd only kill luke on theed with the 2 teams working together throwing bombs to him.
When they die, they drop their saber, while it's still on.

Kurgan 10-08-2004 02:40 PM

You were able to kill then with conventional means? Amazing!

What platform were you playing on? (Ie: PC, PS2 or Xbox) and what Jedi was it, and what map?

Neon 10-08-2004 11:36 PM

Me?
I always play the PC version, I don't have a xbox nor a ps2.
The jedi was Luke ( he is the only who doesn't run away from a granade. And the map was theed palace.

Alegis 10-09-2004 12:04 AM

When a jedi is behind you run to sarlacc and push him in with the speeder :p or let him drop from the kamino bridges (just with a nade, they'll fly high in sky and land in sea)

Basicly its best to let nades bounce from the wall under them (they only get nades that are directly to them) or just near them


However, i hardly played with jedi (maybe once) in MP and i'm grateful for that

Kurgan 10-09-2004 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alegis
When a jedi is behind you run to sarlacc and push him in with the speeder :p or let him drop from the kamino bridges (just with a nade, they'll fly high in sky and land in sea)

Basicly its best to let nades bounce from the wall under them (they only get nades that are directly to them) or just near them


However, i hardly played with jedi (maybe once) in MP and i'm grateful for that

Most servers have Jedi disabled, probably with the mistaken impression that Jedi are "too powerful" and "would unbalance the game" (when they are really just laughable novelties) or it's just the default setting and few people change the default settings.

Interestingly, in an Instant Action game I was playing (Theed, with Clone Wars factions), my team set up a huge offensive against Count Dooku. He stood there like a dork while multiple vehicles pounded him with weapons. Meanwhile a few guys wandered through the crowd firing rockets at him, and were run over or blown up by the various machines. So as far as the AI are concerned, they TRY to kill the Jedi (even though they are unable to).

So as a distraction, Jedi do serve a purpose, even in their buggy, goofy state.

Kurgan 10-09-2004 01:27 PM

Now that someone has confirmed my suspicion that Jedi automatically "die" when your reinforcement count drops to 20 or so, I am suspicious about some of the alleged Jedi kills.

Next time you see a Jedi dying keep an eye on your reinforcement count. If it's really low and just dropped to 20 or below, that may be the cause of the death rather than whatever means you used to kill 'em.

It's undisputed that kill-pits (sarlacc, bottomless pits, cliffs, etc) and running them over with speeders/wheel droids works, but other ways, well, pay attention. There may be other ways, but don't let this fool you...

Kurgan 10-12-2004 06:36 PM

more stuff...
 
After messing around with some of the mods out there I see that in fact you CAN be stepped on by Walkers and this DOES in fact kill Jedi as well (my bad for doubting!).

In the mods where you can play as Jedi you die once the tickets drop to 15 or below (at least on Hoth) and you will die repeatedly if you try to pick a Jedi. Also Jedi die if the vehicle they are in is destroyed (except perhaps like a taun taun or something).

arachon 10-25-2004 10:58 AM

something else fun you can do with a jedi hero is to take a TX-130S figter tank (you know those with a turret that shoots a blue "superlaser") and trap them near a wall (run into them so they get between the things that points out on the front and they cant get out (fun:D )

Pho3nix 10-26-2004 11:30 AM

yeah, The Jedi are a major bug in the game. I think Pandemic could have made em' ALOT better. :lsduel: :slsaber: :dsaber:

AT-ATNemesis 03-30-2005 06:33 AM

My favorite way to kill jedi is to blast them into the sea at naboo theed cos you can do that cos whenyou go in the water you die so i tried it with jedi and it worked

once i had about 3 at sts firing on Luke in the dune sea map and when it got to 20 points luke just died

Renegade Angel 04-05-2005 09:51 PM

awsome

Schizo89 04-06-2005 04:29 AM

u know what's an easy way to kill a jedi? mines... drop a mine, then get them to run over it... instant kill... just ur guy's will probably die too, if they are near... i once killed 6 of my guys trying to kill a jedi w/ this... we were on the bespin platform, and the jedi was hanging out in the hallway, so i dropped a mine, my guys were clumped, and he ran onto it... :( kinda wasn't worth it... :D

AT-ATNemesis 09-11-2005 09:29 AM

Once I was on a speeder bike and luke was slashing blindly into thin air!??!??!
So he blew up the bike and i died
it was whack
i cant do a screenshot cos it was so long ago and on PS2

lord Rage 09-19-2005 04:32 AM

i killed luke by an AT-AT

JetTrooper13 01-08-2006 09:23 AM

Aha hahaha! Those screenshots are hilarious. But I don't see why everyone is so surprised at someone killing a Jedi by conventional methods. I can kill Mace easily as a SBD just by using the rocket to blast him into the air, and then the tri-shot to kill him as he falls.

Funny as it is to whatch it's not near as funny as what my friend did on Geonosis(this honestly beats even Kurgan's stuff). He was on Geonosis and was losing so he decided to just kill Count Dooku for fun. So he got in a Geonosian fighter(the ships with the two huge spikes on them) and rammed into Dooku. He killed Dooku 33 times this way. One time he slowly flew up to Dooku, and gently nudged him fowards towards Windu to get them to fight. Since dooku was being pushed by a Geonosian fighter he couldn't fight, and Windu actualy chopped him half and killed him! Another time in the same round he tried gently nudging Dooku again, but this time into a cliff. Pinned there Dooku died once again. Another time in the same round, same ship he got some distance from Dooku, and sped towards him at the highest possible for a Geonosian fighter. WHAM! Direct hit! Dooku went flying and actualy flew across the feild.

Pure hilarium. I wished we had taken screenchots, but it was PS2.

Kurgan 01-20-2006 04:27 AM

Well it's just that in SWBF1, without using mods, killing Jedi via convention means is impossible. They only die one of four ways:

1) Crush them with a vehicle (speeders, wheel droids, etc, even walkers can stomp on them but it's very hard to do since walkers are so slow compared to Jedi)

2) Blown off a platform into a pit.

3) Land on them with a ship.

4) Reinforcements fall below a certain level (any active Jedi on their side automatically die and never come back).

I don't know about the console versions. Perhaps you can kill them other ways in the console, but on the PC, that's that. Now in SWBF2, they run out with time and you can kill them with anything you want virtually, since they take damage like a normal unit (it reduces their "time bar").

The Death Star 02-05-2006 06:54 AM

I killed Vader and Luke On Bespin Platforms by Lobbing a grenade at their feet and watching them fly...

Commander Obi-Wan 02-05-2006 11:13 PM

Lol...I have never killed a Jedi in Battlefront......Luke should've been dead when I shot him with the AT-AT. :xp:

RC-1162 03-09-2006 05:11 AM

i was playing bespin platforms once and took the ARC. i just fired a rocket at a droideka and finished reloading it. when i turned, i noticed both Windu and Dooku standing next to the healing droid like idiots, they were ignoring everything and staring into the sky. i got pissed off and shot a rocket at the health droid. it blew up and both of them took a back-flip and flew off. the funny thing was, they both were swinging their sabers in the air at each other. suckas.

PoiuyWired 04-22-2006 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurgan
Well it's just that in SWBF1, without using mods, killing Jedi via convention means is impossible. They only die one of four ways:

1) Crush them with a vehicle (speeders, wheel droids, etc, even walkers can stomp on them but it's very hard to do since walkers are so slow compared to Jedi)

2) Blown off a platform into a pit.

3) Land on them with a ship.

4) Reinforcements fall below a certain level (any active Jedi on their side automatically die and never come back).

I don't know about the console versions. Perhaps you can kill them other ways in the console, but on the PC, that's that. Now in SWBF2, they run out with time and you can kill them with anything you want virtually, since they take damage like a normal unit (it reduces their "time bar").

5) killed by another Jedi.

If you get the two computer jedis to fight each other one of them will be killed eventually. Distract one of them to get him killed.

Niner_777 04-28-2006 04:17 PM

Quote:

5) killed by another Jedi.
I've never seen that. Though I did kill Luke on Tatooine be making him follow me out of the border of the map. Eventually, he died from being off of the battlefield too long. Unfortunatly, I soon followed. I was in too deep. lol

Maverick5770 05-07-2006 02:13 AM

I've killed Vader in Mos Eisly before by lobbing all my wookies grenades at him.

Niner_777 05-13-2006 12:42 PM

I've seen heroes die form what looked like damage. However, the reinforcements might have fallen below a certain level. I know one time on Bespin: Platforms I was the only troop left on the field for my team, and the other team had about six or seven. That usually wouldn't be too hard to win, except Count Dooku was waiting for me in one of the crucial choke points. I don't know how much lower the reinforcements had to get.

Mr_Fett 06-10-2006 08:59 PM

HEY in the xbox version of battle front i got mace windu and doku together i turned then turned again cause i hear a slash the next thing i knew was mace laying on da ground doku killed mace windu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grey Master 12-15-2006 11:28 AM

The easiest way to kill jedi in battlefront 1 is with mines. Just put them in the jedi's path and watch the fireworks.

hellhawk 04-06-2007 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Obi-Wan
Lol...I have never killed a Jedi in Battlefront......Luke should've been dead when I shot him with the AT-AT. :xp:

yeah when you shoot them with an at-at they never die... i was aiming for the last rebel but i accidently hir darth! lol he went flying like 50 feet and got up. also, once at kashyyk i got luke cornered and shot him for 5 minites with an at-st. he didn't even get hurt he just got up got shot fell down got up got shot and fell down it went on for 5 whole minets until my at-st got blown up by a rebel vanguard :smash:

tyrone333 04-08-2007 05:14 AM

hellhawk please don't post on threads that are 2 years old it makes it silly check the dates please.

darthy duck 08-07-2007 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niner_777
I've never seen that. Though I did kill Luke on Tatooine be making him follow me out of the border of the map. Eventually, he died from being off of the battlefield too long. Unfortunatly, I soon followed. I was in too deep. lol

thats such a simple idea i cant beleive i never thought of that

i have killed jedi using the same methods by running them over or blowing them off edges, but i want to ask has anyone else got it to say "(whatever your screen name is) has killed darth vader(luke skywalker etc)" in my case "jamie has killed darth vader" i play on the ps2 version

and i have also noticed the jedi just dying randomly and i think it is because of the reiforcement count dropping below 20

but the jedi are reely annoying on bespin platforms( my favourite level by far) because they block the tunnels and even if you do get past there are about 10 troops to blast past

and has anyone else noticed that when the opposing teams reiforcement count drops below 20 on platforms that the troops just jump out of the ships in mid air and you just see ton of TIE fighters etc falling down

Jester72MI 12-17-2008 11:49 AM

On PS2, Jedi heroes can't be killed with conventional methods (blasters, grenades, mines etc). They can only be crushed by a vehicle or forced into a no-live zone (water on Theed, down a pit, etc).

On Bespin Platforms, it's very hard to kill a Jedi in the corridors, because you need to blow him through a window at just the right angle. A better method is to wait until he emerges onto a platform, then grenade/rocket him off.

On Bespin Cloud City, the only way I've found is to blow him off the bridge just outside the Carbon Freezing Chamber (NO! THAT CAN'T BE TRUE! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!... bye whiney Luke!)

On most other maps, you can run him over with a speeder or bigger vehicle and that does the trick.

jangoo feett 05-24-2010 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lord Rage (Post 1874183)
i killed luke by an AT-AT

cool :wan::saberb::dsaber::mauls::saberg::jfett:

Alexrd 05-24-2010 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jangoo feett (Post 2726359)
cool :wan::saberb::dsaber::mauls::saberg::jfett:

Why are you resurrecting old topics?

jangoo feett 05-26-2010 11:03 AM

im new

Bokken 05-26-2010 01:29 PM

Well, now that you know...could you stop, please?


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