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Death of Padme
Do you think Padme died of a broken heart.. or from giving childbirth?
Personally I think it was a combination of both. If indeed she died of a broken heart.. Anakin would have foreseen fate of his own doing when he was having his nightmares of her death. |
Broken heart, perse. Losing Anakin to the Dark Side made Padme lose the will to live. Odds are she could have survived but chose instead not to.
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Though RL odds are she would have survived, become an alcoholic or something...lose custody over the twins.
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Broken heart and resultant loss of will to live.
The childbirth scene was so unrealistic. They can travel in hyperspace throughout the galaxy, replace limbs and give Vader his own portable respirator, and they haven't figured out the technology to give a woman an epidural or other pain relievers? Ugh. |
Maybe she wanted a natural birth? ¯\O_o/¯
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Real Women Use Good Drugs. :xp:
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She died of a broken heart, but that's a pretty awful excuse for getting rid of a character. People don't fall over dead just because they don't feel like living anymore.
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This is what I agree with. She told Aniken he was killing her on Mustifar :blast5: |
If she did die of a broken heart... Then Anakin already had the power to save her.
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I don't think so
I don't think so, only a few Sith mastered that powered, if more than Palpy's master. Sidious nor Vader ever accevied that power.
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I think trip mean't it metaphorically, he did have the power to save her, by not going to the darkside, by not killing younglings |
Exactly. But to further the point somewhat.. I don't think the power to save Padme existed. I think the mention of such a power was just a tool the emperor used to manipulate Anakin. Is there any proof that such a power existed other than Palpatine's mention of it with some tall tale of Darth Plagueis attached to it?
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In the Legacy comics Cade Skywalker can do it... |
She died of the number 1 killer of movie characters, plot developement.
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Then technically the sith power of "fan request" can bring him back, even if one is swallowed up by a giant bung hole filled with teeth.
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Broken Heart.
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Makes me think of old D&D sections.
"I don't want to be a wizard anymore, I refuse to eat and poo, and jump down the cliff" "I get saved by a tree branch, but I am going to jump down again while cutting my throat midair" Seriously, that happened. Maybe Padme wants to be someone else... like a blood elf mohawk. |
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Just on Padme for a moment, it bugged me quite a bit that she did die of a broken heart. She gave up the will to live, that gives the film even more of a sour note IMO, with the good guys lose and the bad guys win. GL was most wise to make the last films first otherwise Star Wars would have tanked, and this scene would have contributed. |
Don't the 'bad-guys' win in ESB? The 'good-guys' won in in both ANH and ROTJ. The 'good-guys' also won in TPM and AOTC, but the 'bad-guys' won in ROTS. It all evens out.
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Broken heart for sure.
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Um, true, the films were made more mature for an older audiance. Still Die Hard ending with John McClane alive. Guess I'm a sucker for happy endings.
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hmmm... they said something in star wars mag recently... ill look it up n post...
k found it... says: How exactely did Padme die? We no she lost the will to live, but someone can't "will" themselves to death. Was the force at work here? Responce:In the end, the despondency over the terrible person ankin became breaks padme's heart. She is unable to come to grips with her husband as power hungery, and a mass murderer has has destroyed everything she holds dear. There might even b a small part of her that blames herself for inadveratly bringing obi wan to mustafar, though Anakin's Grusome fate remaind hidden from her at her final moments. there is nothing to suggest that padmes death is the will of the force, other then anakin';s visions. dosent help much... ps i just tried to will myself to death, dosent work |
Padme's death/The kids birth was the single worst thing in the Prequel trilogy. George rushed to wrap the film up after the climatic fight and this scene paid for it. Shame.
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Bad thread ressurectors. BAD!
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I HATE that excuse that she died of a broken heart. Here is a Director with piles of cash and the man can't even create a good excuse for why she died? My god... Someone else should right these movies for him!
Sorry bout that. Had to unleash my love/hate relationship for GL EDIT: And don't blame me Kain I'm a bored man. |
I read that Sidous killed her from Anakin turning to dark side to save padme. It said that sidous made anakin hate the people he loved and he killed them.
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But at the same time... she died of a broken heart? Lame. Padme was really shafted in the prequels. Most of the deleted material was hers. Quote:
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Also by the way there is something called broken heart syndrome, but nothing like that happens. |
Why can't it be a combination of both?
If you want to recover from wounds, you'll need the mental power and recilience to do so. Placebo's proof this. Padme might have been mortally wounded, but with good chances to survive. But if the mind doesn't want to do so...it won't work. :( Although I still find it weird she doesn't stuff it away to raise the children. I mean, what's the point? She leaves the children mother and fatherless. |
I'd give you that it could have been a mixture of injury, and not wanting to recover... but Dr. Droid makes it perfectly clear that she's perfectly healthy. Silly George.
I wish it was handled better. There should have been more time between the kid's birth and Padme's death. There could have been a moment for Padme to be with her daughter to explain Leia's memories in Ep 6. |
Ah, that would indeed be better. That she would originally recover, safeguard her children and possibly then die of complications. And, like you said, it would explain why Leia has those memories...I don't really buy those 'the has her eyes open in Episode 3!' stuff. :)
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Remember though, Z, that Luke and Leia are both force sensitives. It could be that the infant Leia felt her mother through the force, maybe even during pregnancy.
But, it is still curious... |
Yeah, the force sensitive theory has been brought up multiple times.
Several canon stories even confirm it somehow. I recall reading a story about a little Luke who´s capable of levitating one of his toys, after which his uncle says never to do so again. If he´s capable of doing that as an infant, he could indeed have been...strong in the force at birth. Same goes for Leia... :) But that still doesn't explain how they felt Padme. Levitating your lego is one thing, reading or feeling one's mind right after your birth is something else. Which brings up another theory of Padmé being Force Sensitive, which is supported by Episode 3...*sigh* |
[QUOTE=Ztalker]Why can't it be a combination of both?
If you want to recover from wounds, you'll need the mental power and recilience to do so. Placebo's proof this. Padme might have been mortally wounded, but with good chances to survive. But if the mind doesn't want to do so...it won't work. :( [/QUOTE=Ztalker] Unfortunately this is impossable, think of the glorious day when all those darn emos die due to their self inflicted papercuts. Better than mudkipz. She does not seem to be suffering from mortal wound. And no generally you don't "will yourself to die" from a simple cut, plus she is probably not willing herself to death due to her kiddos and such. So even if she lost the will to live, it would hardly be fatal. Oh, and if Palpy is behind her killing then he would have known of the twins. So unless he intend on acquiring them later for his own use he would have done something about it. Even if, in the event that he DO want the twins, he would have done even more to safeguard their usefulness, including elimination of ObiWan. Well, unless he is too coward to face a future great Sith. Quote:
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Hmmm... chewie. Impossable, but would be nice, none the less. His death is so undeserved. As for jade, I love her character, but in the end I think she got a somewhat reasonable death, and while she is looking good also (despite her age she looks really young and juicy still) I mean, it would be stupid indeed to see a 90 year old Han in daipers yelling YeeHow in a even more beat up Falcon while mistaking the wrinkled up Leia as good old chewie due to partly Han's catarac and partly Leia's new look. |
One of Anakin's dreams has Obi wan talking to Padme, saying "don't give, save your energy" or something to that effect. Is it likely that it was only shot for the dream? Or could it be that the birth/death scenes had more/different content in it?
I'm just deluding myself really, I just wish it was better and George would fix it lol |
I agree that there has to be more in the cut content we didn't see - that we just have to accept that she lost the will to live and therefore died.
Sidious also says to Vader something like "In your rage you killed her" - which is mostly meant to manipulate Vader but could also have some truth to it. In his turn to the DS and subsequent attack on Padme she had nothing left to live for in her mind, despite the birth of her children. |
I believe she died from a broken heart
She died from a Broken Heart because she wanted to see Anakins face while she was giving Childbirth so that could be why she died
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You don't need previous injuries for a stressful childbirth or complications... it would make sense that her "losing the will to live" would render her unable to cope with the rigors of childbirth at all. It make perfect sense... except for that #*($ "Dr. Droid" as one of you said, telling us she's "perfectly healthy... there's nothing wrong", telling us nothing went wrong with the pregnency and George is expecting us to beleive that she was the first person to "will herself to death". An emo hero?
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