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Darth Pvl 02-26-2008 03:04 PM

Who was the most powerful sith lord ever?
 
What do you think? :)

adamqd 02-26-2008 05:01 PM

Sidious, but they all kick ass in there own right, although to a degree Revan and Vader did as much to destroy the Sith as to Represent them :)

Welcome to the Forums Darth Pvl :D

Lord Foley 05-20-2008 03:38 PM

Darth Caedus, though he's stupid.

Fredi 05-20-2008 08:43 PM

Darth Sidious

Lord Foley 05-21-2008 05:20 PM

I guess Exar Kun was pretty badass, now that I think about it.

luckyariot 05-23-2008 01:04 PM

:confused: What? No Revan-crazed-fans have invaded this thread yet?! Well... I'm not gonna complain... nor do I rule out that, now that I've drawn attention to this fact, they will begin to swarm...

I think that Caedus, though incredibly powerful, is an idiot. Plain and simple. Yer evil now boy, accept it and move on, or turn back to the light. Well... too late now... :xp:

Vader... you would have been so much more awesome if you didn't get cocky in your Obi-Wan fight and lost... well, most of your body to a lightsaber and a river of boiling lava... ouch...

Exar Kun was awesome but just not good enough... :( Sorry Kun! Your plan was a good one compared to many other villians, though!

I do like Revan, but he's more of a genius than uber-powerful, so Sideous, with his annoying lightning, force storms, etc. and takes the... crown? Don't know. It wouldn't be cake, now would it? :lol:

Fredi 05-24-2008 11:23 AM

We all most accept that the only 2 Sith's that have ruled the galaxy by complete are Darth Sidious and Darth Krayth ... and I hate Darth Krayth ... so the most powerfull would be Sidious by his work conquering the galaxy

adamqd 05-24-2008 01:25 PM

I've always said Sidious (Because of George's statements really) but if any of you guys are collecting the recent "Vector" comics arc, there has been mention of some pretty bad ass ancient Sith Lords, so later comics may reveal some powerful s.o.b's :D

Astrotoy7 05-24-2008 01:59 PM

I would have voted for Bane

Being a 'powerful' sith lord isnt all about shooting lightning and having a super costume. Bane is a revolutionary, The sith would not have survived were it not for the Rule of Two.

Plagueis seems to have been quite powerful, but it has never been verified that Palpy was telling the truth...Im also not sure what has happened to the Plageuis novel that was being discussed...

Caedus
spoiler:
got killed way too early
. I think they could have developed it much more!! There's a sizeable vacuum in LOTF era EU now...

mtfbwya

Fredi 05-24-2008 03:19 PM

I think the question should be "How is the best Sith " must be divided in skills,knowledge, power,etc... because there is no real most power full sith ... well except for the myth of the Sith'ari.

Need to add that the wisdom of Darth Tyranus is tremendous ... his knowledge and control over the economic and how he managed to make a movement against the Republic was pretty fascinating .

Iron Rose 06-02-2008 12:02 AM

How can you compare these characters? They all have their own "power." Revan for example was a charismatic leader. He managed to convince many jedi to turn on the Jedi Order and led a invasion that crippled the Republic. On the otherhand, Darth Vader relied more on his physical strength and saber skills then his charisma. I would have to vote Sidious, though. He created an elaborate plan that toppled the Republic and created an empire. The big thing is that Sidious's plan actually worked. Also he was a good duelist and powerfull force user.

M@RS 06-02-2008 12:30 AM

Agreed, even with all of the jedi surrounding him (Sidious), he kept his secret until it was needed to deceive Darth Vader

TKA-001 06-02-2008 08:12 AM

It doesn't matter who (out of those listed) was the most powerful ever. Even if it did, then anyone here who voted someone other than Exar Kun is just demonstrating bias favoritism (especially those who religiously worship Revan).

Rev7 06-02-2008 09:04 PM

Why is the poll closed so early?

I would have probably voted for Sidious. He had the most power. However I prefer Revan, or someone from the older times. I like the EU. So many different twists...

M@RS 06-02-2008 10:50 PM

yeah...but Sidious was awesome

Rev7 06-02-2008 11:37 PM

I mean, I liked his character, but I don't like his character. I think that he took a REALLY long time before he was figured out. I just didn't like the way that he fought, and played. I think that he was a coward almost, and became drunk w/ power, but I guess that is the definition of "Sith" though. :giveup:

M@RS 06-02-2008 11:39 PM

yep, he wasn't a coward though he was waiting for Anakin to become weak enough in the LS to turn to the DS

Ali1392 06-05-2008 02:29 PM

The most powerful i would say is Nihilus as he was the manisfestation of the dark side yet he had little control over it, so the most powerful who could control it i would say is Kun

Jedil3thal 06-05-2008 08:24 PM

I believe Darth Revan
 
:holosid:He controlled unlimited fleets and resources

Druganator 06-11-2008 01:30 AM

i think that darth sidious was the smartest sith because he fooled everyone and almost wiped out the jedi but i think revan was the least evil because all he was doing was making his galaxy strong enough to fight the real threat in the unknown regions (by taking over his galaxy of course) and i think that darth bane was the first one to be really powerful because he did not share his power with more than one so he had a lot but as u can tell i really dont think anyone was stronger than the other because they al have different strengths

Servercat 06-28-2008 02:42 PM

Darth Traya > all

noizer 07-21-2008 08:18 AM

simple, sidious. read enough evidence in guides ect for that to know. sry no links at the moment

Drynos 08-12-2008 06:01 AM

I would allow myself to say: Darth Caedus, for being I think the only one who didn't rise to power through the law, but rather by changing the law. (Lawyer droids...YUCK)

However, Darth Bane would be the Sith Lord I'd want as a master, for he would not kill you until you were ready to kill him, and he had no sense of betrayal as Sidious did. Darth Revan was cool and all, but Bane maximized his teachings through the holocron to become one of the more powerful Sithies.

Plus: Bane marked Sith disappearance. Sith, Sith, Sith, Sith, no more Sith. Jedi say wha?
Sith come back after a millennia, and FAIL utterly FAIL, I blame Sidious for being the Sith who broke the chain and killed his master too early.

TheSithEmperor 10-23-2008 09:51 PM

No Darth Nihilus :O ?

Revan.Ragnos.85 12-07-2008 03:53 AM

I'm in your thread, being a Revan fanboy.

Darth Zavier 06-18-2009 01:13 AM

Why wasn't maul on it???

darth-nihilus 06-25-2009 12:41 AM

NOO IS NOT FAIR !!

THE MOST POWERFULL EVER IS NIHILUS !!
cmon !! he just stands near anyone and consumes it...
he is not even human anymore HE IS THE DARK SIDE !

urluckyday 06-25-2009 12:51 AM

Another old thread dug up...

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Originally Posted by Darth Zavier (Post 2636597)
Why wasn't maul on it???

Because he wasn't all that powerful to even consider for the poll...

Mandalore The Shadow 06-28-2009 08:57 PM

what about Darth Krayt

minmisaloser 06-29-2009 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luckyariot (Post 2467107)
:confused: What? No Revan-crazed-fans have invaded this thread yet?! Well... I'm not gonna complain... nor do I rule out that, now that I've drawn attention to this fact, they will begin to swarm...

I think that Caedus, though incredibly powerful, is an idiot. Plain and simple. Yer evil now boy, accept it and move on, or turn back to the light. Well... too late now... :xp:

Vader... you would have been so much more awesome if you didn't get cocky in your Obi-Wan fight and lost... well, most of your body to a lightsaber and a river of boiling lava... ouch...

Exar Kun was awesome but just not good enough... :( Sorry Kun! Your plan was a good one compared to many other villians, though!

I do like Revan, but he's more of a genius than uber-powerful, so Sideous, with his annoying lightning, force storms, etc. and takes the... crown? Don't know. It wouldn't be cake, now would it? :lol:

Revan was more powerful than you give him credit for. He gathered the courage of many and overpowered the Mandalorians. How much would it have taken to do that? But no doubt, Revan was a wiser and less powerful. Without him, the thought bomb wouldn't have been re-discovered. Nihilus had so much control it's quite possible he had the greatest offensive ability over the force. Hell, Nihilus power was limitless due to the fact he fed off the force, each time gaining more and more power. He could consume entire planets; drain everything of its life force... Then you look at Plagueis who was able to create life as well as preserve it.

Wise = Revan
Power = Nihilus OR Kun

Revan, being the most unique Sith Lord in my opinion, is shrouded in mystry. He never returned from his mission to face the power stronger and more fearsome than the sith of that age, shows that he isn't the best. Or maybe he achieved his goal at the cost of his life. I doubt they'll ever go deeper into the mystery that is Revan. His first (and last) master once said that maybe he was never truly 'dark', but only assumed the role at an attempt to strengthen the republic. I think he strived for peace at any cost. Willing to go down as the ultimate evil for the greater good.

Someone said something about Revan controlling unlimited resources. That's because of the Star Forge and a totally invalid point.
(Yes, I am a total Revan freak)

Sith'ari Darth Bane 06-29-2009 05:58 AM

Darth Bane was the most powerful he was the Sith'ari!!!

Mandalore The Shadow 06-29-2009 08:58 PM

alright if i have to choose from the list then Revan

Fredi 07-04-2009 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Deker (Post 2641766)
Darth Bane was the most powerful he was the Sith'ari!!!

Sorry dude, no real proof that Darth Bane is the Sith'ari, thought I do like him.

JesusIsGonnaOwnSatan 07-04-2009 10:50 PM

Out of the list, id say probably sidious

out of what i know, Nihilus was the most powerful force being to have ever existed in the SW universe. (i aint no nihilus fanboy. its just fact)

i hate caedus, but he was very powerful. more so than vader. (but thats not saying much :p)

bane was very cool. i dont know about his power, but he is SO the sith'ari. no competition. i personally dont see how anyone can even argue otherwise.

revan was the man. most powerful in the kotor era second to nihilus i think.

backinblack81180 07-31-2009 11:28 AM

Hmm..
 
I tend to connect most with Revan due to the fact that his power derives purely from his genius, and I've always tended to appreciate villians displaying ungodly amounts of intelligence.
Let's face it, strictly from everything I've read, Revan is praised more than any other Sith for being the single greatest military strategist.

If I were to answer this question based on raw power alone, then the obvious answer is Nihilus because his power is only limited on his source of "food".
However, Nihilus's greatest advantage is also his greatest weakness. His hunger was the downfall of him, and seemed to drive him right into the hands of those who would kill him.

Sidious never impressed me in the slightest. Sure he was powerful, but no where near as powerful as Kun or Nihilus, and he was nowhere near as intelligent as Revan. He was a trickster, and his deceit was really his greatest weapon, as he used it to pull the strings of the republic long enough until he could convert Anakin and build his droid army and his death star. Anakin was more powerful than him and he knew it. He had little or no military strategy, just an extremely large and powerful army. His power only came from pure opportunity and convenience.

Kun was the most well-rounded. Not AS powerful as Nihilus or as intelligent as Revan, but excelling in both traits. I suppose this would make him the most powerful sith lord ever since it takes both brains and brawn equally. I mean hell, the dude still killed people many millenia after his death and wasn't ever fully destroyed until the book I, Jedi.

I still like Revan the best though, especially because when I play Dark Side on KOTOR, I MAKE him the most powerful ever =P I flick people to death and laugh.

Visas 11-11-2009 11:31 AM

My master, Darth Nihilus.

justinnickpaul 12-21-2009 09:15 AM

The strongest tools of the Darkside are cunning, treachery, serecy, and betrayal... they were the tools sidious used to bring down the jedi order, but Darth Bane of the Sith was the orchestraiter of the whole thing!
He was far more smarter, and cunning then any sith before and after him... He alone brought down the entire brotherhood of Darkness in one broad stroke! jus by using that cunning brain of his...
Darth Bane is without doubt the most powerful Dark Lord physically also... people are alwayse saying how great palpatine, aka sidious, is. well i got a question for yall boys, if sidious is so great and powerful, how come his sith lightning doesnt kill on impact? why does it take a while?
while yall think bout it, Darth Banes dark side lightning annihalated enemies ON IMPACT! charring there bodys in the process... and the funny thing is, Darth Bane was like the only Dark Side user who wasn't an apprentece for very long... He went in to learn the ways of the Darkside at age 20, came out about the same age The Dark Lord Of The Sith, taking out every other Sith Lord...
Dath Banes apprentice is also Extremely powerful, she manage to defeat and Kill Darth Bane... but pretty much with her sith soarcery (an ability Darth Banes abiliteis wuz never able 2 accomplish as only very few are able to possess its trait) but if were talking strong as the Force itself inside one body, Darth Bane is the top dogg. Stronger Then Sidious, Stronger then Vader, Dtronger then exar Kunn, Revan, Nihilous, Sion, Krayte, Shadow, Kreesh.
Darth Bane is the TRUE Dark Lord Of The Sith :thmbup1:

justinnickpaul 12-21-2009 11:22 PM

one more thing about sidious... he technically speaking isnt a true dark lord of the sith, as he chose to kill his master while plaguis was asleep... the battle between master and apprentice is a contast, where the strongest and most powerful and the most cunning servives... sidious skipped that test. he is nothing more then a coward. an abomination to the rule of 2...

Astor 12-22-2009 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by justinnickpaul (Post 2695617)
one more thing about sidious... he technically speaking isnt a true dark lord of the sith, as he chose to kill his master while plaguis was asleep... the battle between master and apprentice is a contast, where the strongest and most powerful and the most cunning servives... sidious skipped that test. he is nothing more then a coward. an abomination to the rule of 2...

Uh, no. It doesn't have to be a contest of arms. If anything, using such an opportunity makes him even more qualified. If he fought Darth Plagueis, there's a chance he'd be killed (or badly wounded), which is hardly useful if he planned on becoming the next Dark Lord.

Malak chose to eliminate his master in a similar way, firing on his command ship when it had been crippled and boarded by Jedi strike teams.

Part of being a Sith is about cunning, and making use of such opportunities.

justinnickpaul 01-04-2010 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astor Kaine (Post 2695666)
Uh, no. It doesn't have to be a contest of arms. If anything, using such an opportunity makes him even more qualified. If he fought Darth Plagueis, there's a chance he'd be killed (or badly wounded), which is hardly useful if he planned on becoming the next Dark Lord.

Malak chose to eliminate his master in a similar way, firing on his command ship when it had been crippled and boarded by Jedi strike teams.

Part of being a Sith is about cunning, and making use of such opportunities.

dude for real... the Dark Side is all about the strong surviving, the strongest only deserves the chance of becoming the dark lord, the winner suceeds... it is a contest man. ESPECIALLY when Sidious followed Darth Banes "RULE OF TWO" in which Bane Stated what i jus said... think about it, past sith apprentices would team up and go against there masters and then turn on eachother, therefore weakening the order. so if Sidious killed Plagueis in his sleep, then theres no telling who was strongest. he took the cowards way out, for he attacked his master after his master explained to him of creating a being of the embodiment of the force itself. and the darkside is all about learning EVERYTHING you can then destroying it when its of no more use. in this Sidious defied the rules of the darkside, because he killed his master without learning all of his secrets. for example, saving people from death and creating life for he didnt know how to do it in episode three and in star wars universe and in other books and stories he's SEARCHING for that secret... he killed his master because he was a coward because he feared his master would replace him


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