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Pavlos 04-20-2009 11:35 AM

Fallout: New Vegas
 
Source

Bethesda, developers of The Elder Scrolls series and Fallout 3, have announced a new game for the Fallout franchise to be developed by Obsidian Entertainment, developers of KotOR II and NWN2. Entitled Fallout: New Vegas, the game is said "not [to be] a sequel to Fallout 3" but a stand-alone title slated for release in 2010.

"It's not a sequel to Fallout 3," says Pete Hines, Vice President of PR and marketing at Bethesda, "it's just another game in the universe, and it has no impact whatsoever on whatever Todd Howard and his team are working on. We approached Obsidian and they were, like, yeah. That was a pretty easy conversation. It's not Fallout Tactics, it's not Brotherhood of Steel; it's another RPG."

MCV is reporting that the game will utilise the Gamebryo engine employed in both Oblivion and Fallout 3 and that Chris Avellone of Fallout 2 (and Planescape: Torment) fame is heading up the development team.

Given that the founding fathers of Obsidian Entertainment (Feargus Urquhart, Chris Parker, Darren Monahan, Chris Avellone, and Chris Jones) are all veterans of Fallout 2's long-dead developer, Black Isle, this looks like something to keep and eye on, rather than something to commit ritual suicide over.

Sabretooth 04-20-2009 11:45 AM

Fallout
+ Chris Avellone
+ Gamebryo Engine
+ Obsidian Entertainment
- April Fool's Day
- Rumour

= Headsplode Supreme

Jeff 04-20-2009 12:04 PM

I still need to play Fallout 3, but this sounds like it will be amazing. Chock it up on my looking forward to list.

I thought the same as you Sabre, "April Fools is over!" :p

Silveredge9 04-20-2009 12:10 PM

Now this is something I didn't expect I'd ever see. After Fallout 3's excuse of a storyline, this is almost as good as an Obsidian Entertainment developed KOTOR3. :P

Miltiades 04-20-2009 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabretooth (Post 2616325)
Fallout
+ Chris Avellone
+ Gamebryo Engine
+ Obsidian Entertainment
- April Fool's Day
- Rumour

= Headsplode Supreme

Oh yeah! :bounce1:

DarthParametric 04-20-2009 01:18 PM

Hrmm....Bethesda pays millions to rape the franchise and then hands it off to Obsidian? Smells a bit fishy to me, but it is three weeks past April Fools....

Gamebryo - blech. Obsidian should have said they'd use the Alpha Protocol version of Unreal 3 that they have been working with for the last 2 years.

Mav 04-20-2009 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabretooth (Post 2616325)
Fallout
+ Chris Avellone
+ Gamebryo Engine
+ Obsidian Entertainment
- April Fool's Day
- Rumour

= Headsplode Supreme

As per usual, Sabre's deduction is indubitably infallible.

Jeff 04-20-2009 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthParametric (Post 2616352)
Gamebryo - blech. Obsidian should have said they'd use the Alpha Protocol version of Unreal 3 that they have been working with for the last 2 years.

I may have preferred this as well, I didn't particularly care for Oblivion, but I still want to play Fallout 3 since it's been so highly lauded.

Pavlos 04-20-2009 01:44 PM

I should have liked Obsidian to use their Onyx engine; it was designed with the Aliens RPG in mind, sounded pretty interesting.

Anyway, I do have to echo the feeling that seems to be reverberating around the internet right now that an Obsidian-Bethesda partnership is one of the most bizarre video-game-related events for quite a while...

Q 04-20-2009 02:08 PM

Release in 2010? That's awfully soon, isn't it?

That being said, it goes without saying that I'd prefer Obsidian's take on Fallout to Bethesda's.

Miltiades 04-20-2009 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pavlos (Post 2616370)
Anyway, I do have to echo the feeling that seems to be reverberating around the internet right now that an Obsidian-Bethesda partnership is one of the most bizarre video-game-related events for quite a while...

+ and - attract each other, even in the game business, it seems.

DarthParametric 04-20-2009 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Moeller (Post 2616359)
I didn't particularly care for Oblivion, but I still want to play Fallout 3 since it's been so highly lauded.

If you've played Oblivion you've played Fallout 3. As was feared by the fanboys, it's pretty much just Oblivion with guns. As far as "highly lauded" goes, recall that Oblivion was also "highly lauded" (Oblivion actually has a slightly higher Metacritic rating).

Quanon 04-20-2009 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthParametric (Post 2616384)
As far as "highly lauded" goes, recall that Oblivion was also "highly lauded" (Oblivion actually has a slightly higher Metacritic rating).

True these games lack good strong stories.

Though, just like Morrorwind, I enjoyed the exploring, the randome encounters with quest givers.

Bit odd sometimes, to find someone in the middle of nowhere :p
Still, this sandbox mode is strong: I think with the writing and creative story telling of Obsidian, fused with the great exploring aspect, this might turn out great.

2010 isn't so far fetched, if they use the same engine and tools of Fallout 3.

Q 04-20-2009 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quanon (Post 2616395)
2010 isn't so far fetched, if they use the same engine and tools of Fallout 3.

Which is the same situation that they had with KotOR2.

Uh-oh... :(

Pavlos 04-20-2009 03:44 PM

Source

Shacknews has posted an interview with Bethesda's vice president of PR and marketing, Pete Hines on the new Fallout game to be developed by Obsidian Entertainment: Fallout: New Vegas.

Mr. Hines has stated that Obsidian and Bethesda have been discussing the stand-alone addition to the Fallout franchise "for a while now" but has not disclosed for exactly how long "for a while" means.

I think we tried very hard not to put much in the way of parameters on them. To let them kind of come up with the idea. So we didn't go to them and say, we want a game that is set here, and--we didn't do that. We said, "What would you do with it? If we were going to do this, what would you guys like to do?"

If what he says is true then this game could turn out to be very interesting. Almost as interesting as Mike Leigh night on BBC 4, yesterday.

DarthParametric 04-20-2009 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qliveur (Post 2616396)
Which is the same situation that they had with KotOR2.

Uh-oh... :(

Lol. Let's just hope they have finally learned a few lessons about achievable goals.

Titanius Anglesmith 04-20-2009 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabretooth (Post 2616325)
Fallout
+ Chris Avellone
+ Gamebryo Engine
+ Obsidian Entertainment
- April Fool's Day
- Rumour

= Headsplode Supreme

My thoughts exactly, fine sir.

jrrtoken 04-20-2009 04:51 PM

Dear God. Well, this is one hell of a surprise. It's as if the sadistic spawn of Satan asked God to give help him conquer the world.

Either way, since it's being done by Obsidian, I'm thinking that the Fallout franchise might return to a sense of glory that was lost with FO3.

Still, I'm shocked. I mean, really, in a state of joyful disbelief.

Jeff 04-20-2009 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthParametric (Post 2616384)
If you've played Oblivion you've played Fallout 3. As was feared by the fanboys, it's pretty much just Oblivion with guns. As far as "highly lauded" goes, recall that Oblivion was also "highly lauded" (Oblivion actually has a slightly higher Metacritic rating).

I know, I've heard the Oblivion with guns bit many times but I think the first person view works better in a game with guns, and I was comparing Oblivion to other fantasy RPGs so I wanted something similar and I didn't like the way it went. Never played any of the Fallout games or any RPGs like them so I am open to giving it a chance.

CommanderQ 04-20-2009 05:11 PM

Hmmm, another Fallout? This was expected, Fallout 3 was hugely succesful in comparison to Oblivion and other franchises....this next one could wear out the Fallout series though, as good as it may be.

True_Avery 04-20-2009 05:28 PM

I'm one of the few apparently who has a distaste for Obsidian's games. TSL was incomplete and felt incomplete, and NWN2 was one of the least immersive RPGs I've ever played.

While Fallout 3 was just Oblivion with guns...

I'm going to take a guess and say this will be NWN2 with... guns.

No thanks.

Jeff 04-20-2009 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by True_Avery (Post 2616442)
I'm one of the few apparently who has a distaste for Obsidian's games. While Fallout 3 was just Oblivion with guns...

I'm going to take a guess and say this will be NWN2 with... guns.

No thanks.

Not only one of the few, you're the only one. :carms:

Ctrl Alt Del 04-20-2009 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Moeller (Post 2616444)
Not only one of the few, you're the only one. :carms:

DON'T!

I don't quite care for Obsidian anymore than I do to the next company either. Bland games are bland to me. Still, might be better than Bethesda, so I'll be waiting.

Jae Onasi 04-20-2009 10:34 PM

*Jae waits for Emperor Devon to come into the thread and drool over the fact that Avellone, god of gaming, is working on a new project.*

Q 04-20-2009 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by True_Avery (Post 2616442)
I'm going to take a guess and say this will be NWN2 with... guns.

Given that these guys developed Fallout 2, I doubt it.

Well, I guess that this is why the Aliens RPG was so suddenly shelved. I'll bet that Feargus & Co. would've dropped anything that they were doing ATM for the chance to work on this. Who could blame them?

OMG! OMG!

This just occurred to me: could this mean that we're finally going to get the Fallout 3 that Black Isle was developing oh so long ago? :emodanc:

Sabretooth 04-20-2009 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jae Onasi (Post 2616564)
*Jae waits for Emperor Devon to come into the thread and drool over the fact that Avellone, god of gaming, is working on a new project.*

I don't think he ever recovered from the shock.

Serpentine Cougar 04-21-2009 12:39 AM

Sounds promising! But why does Obsidian always doing sequels for other companies' games (minus Alpha Protocol)? First, Bioware, now Bethesda...

Ctrl Alt Del 04-21-2009 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serpentine Cougar (Post 2616602)
Sounds promising! But why does Obsidian always doing sequels for other companies' games (minus Alpha Protocol)? First, Bioware, now Bethesda...

Nothing terribly wrong with that. It's just that doing sequels to already famous games practically guarantees a good income. If the company grows, new IPs are bound to show up sooner or later.

Jeff 04-21-2009 01:11 AM

Yeah, it was definitely a good way for Obsidian to get their brand well known. Doing TSL and NWN2 really put them on the map (Yes I know they are all former Black Isle people but I just mean them as a company) and that is proven since they already have a new IP in Alpha Protocol coming and pretty highly anticipated.

leXX 04-21-2009 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by True_Avery (Post 2616442)
I'm one of the few apparently who has a distaste for Obsidian's games. TSL was incomplete and felt incomplete, and NWN2 was one of the least immersive RPGs I've ever played.

While Fallout 3 was just Oblivion with guns...

I'm going to take a guess and say this will be NWN2 with... guns.

No thanks.

Trust me, you're not the only one. I haven't liked one single Obsidian game. I loved NWN, couldn't get into NWN2. I loved KotOR, didn't like TSL. I hated both Oblivion and Fallout 3. Suffice to say, I won't ever be buying into "omg this game is awesome" ever again when it comes to Obsidian.

Jason Skywalker 04-21-2009 06:00 AM

I only know Fallout 3 from seeing my brother playing it but from what i've seen, it's pretty fun. Unexpected move, having Obsidian develop the new game but good nevertheless. :P

Emperor Devon 04-21-2009 06:30 AM

Neato. I've got another reason to play the original Fallouts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by True_Avery (Post 2616442)
NWN2 was one of the least immersive RPGs I've ever played.

In its defense, didn't you stop playing around the tutorial?

Pavlos 04-21-2009 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Devon (Post 2616664)
Neato. I've got another reason to play the original Fallouts.

The fact that you haven't played them yet is one of the reasons why you fail as a person, Ed. :xp:

jrrtoken 04-21-2009 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leXX (Post 2616650)
I loved KotOR, didn't like TSL.

Preposterous. o_Q

TSL had Kreia, therefore, it is better in every right when it comes to K1.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/st...nessatcore.jpg
Quote:

Suffice to say, I won't ever be buying into "omg this game is awesome" ever again when it comes to Obsidian.
Too late, I already am:

OMG THIS GAEM IS AWESOME!1!
OMG THIS GAEM IS AWESOME!1!
OMG THIS GAEM IS AWESOME!1!
OMG THIS GAEM IS AWESOME!1!
OMG THIS GAEM IS AWESOME!1!

santsmil

Sabretooth 04-21-2009 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pavlos (Post 2616673)
The fact that you haven't played them yet is one of the reasons why you fail as a person, Ed. :xp:

This. And he hasn't even played Deus Ex, the damned Level 2 crook.

stingerhs 04-21-2009 02:58 PM

sounds nice, but i'm not holding my breath on this one till i see some actual information about the game. announcing that they're making the game is one thing. giving us information like plot teasers, screenshots, and/or gameplay footage is a completely different ballgame. :indif:

DarthParametric 04-21-2009 03:49 PM

Whatever it turns out like, at least they didn't call it Fallout 4. That is what Bethesda should have done - called theirs Fallout: DC or Fallout: Capital Wastelands or some such, along the lines of Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel. The only relation it has to Fallout 1 & 2 is the universe. In narrative, gameplay, and philosophy it is completely unrelated. Van Buren was Fallout 3. Bethesda's Fallout 3 bears as much relation to the originals as Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance does to BG 1 & 2.

Q 04-21-2009 06:01 PM

That's what it was called: Van Buren. I'd forgotten.

Since the same guys who worked on Van Buren are making this game, I'm wondering if Fallout: New Vegas will actually be Van Buren, and therefore the real Fallout 3.

True_Avery 04-21-2009 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Devon (Post 2616664)
In its defense, didn't you stop playing around the tutorial?

In my first install, yeah.

I installed it again and played about 8 or so hours in and it just didn't latch onto me. Perhaps the game, or was playing it in a bad mindset.

Adavardes 04-22-2009 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PastramiX (Post 2616704)
Preposterous. o_Q

TSL had Kreia, therefore, it is better in every right when it comes to K1.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/st...nessatcore.jpg

This.

There's also the fact that K1's story and characters sucked out loud, and that TSL's story and characters were of a quality, depth, and dimension rarely seen in the gaming industry, but mostly this.

Obsidian = amazing writers.
Fallout = interesting concept.
Obsidian making Fallout = WOOO!


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