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zaopatrzeniowiec 06-21-2012 03:16 PM

How to gain influence with Mira in order to train her for a Jedi?
 
i know there is a lots of walkthroughts for that but none of them is working for me. Most of them says that all influence can be gained just by one single talk and this is not true at all in my situation.
i`ve talked with mira in all possible ways including life debt of wookie, why she dont want to kill, what is the story of lost family, why is she so restless on ebon hawk and why is she so comfortable on her planet. I gained influence only once and this is enought only for wookie-story but not enought to show her this jedi version of what nar shada feels like. She refuses to be trained due to low influence. There is also no other way i can provoke good relations coz im allready near the end of the game. What should i do?

RevMg 06-21-2012 04:57 PM

It is true, single conversation is enough, you must have messed up something. She is the easiest one to turn if my memory serves right.

Anyway if anyone is to help you, you should be more specific about what near the end of the game means so ppl could point you at specific conversations. Otherwise if you are too far into the game, the only way is to use save editor bc i understand you don't want to reload this conversation.

Obi-Wan Bologna 06-21-2012 07:45 PM

Any hints on this conversation, she's one that I've never trained before as well. And I've played this game a ton. I will try my best to train her on the next playthrough.

milestails 06-21-2012 08:59 PM

See here: http://www.starwarsknights.com/influence.php

Hassat Hunter 06-22-2012 05:23 AM

You'll need awareness for that "one convo" to work. Otherwise, just gain some INF the old fashioned way, by taking her out and do good things.

Obi-Wan Bologna 06-22-2012 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hassat Hunter (Post 2814392)
You'll need awareness for that "one convo" to work. Otherwise, just gain some INF the old fashioned way, by taking her out and do good things.

Ahh ok, I hardly ever have any awareness lol That makes sense.

Hassat Hunter 06-22-2012 08:02 PM

Cheatingly checks the .dlg...
Actually, there are A LOT more ways to get that one convo than merely awareness. In order of the game checking;
* Awareness 11 or higher (LS)
* Wisdom 15 or higher
* Intelligence 15 or higher
* Influence under 30 (DS)
* Influence above 70 (LS)

Also remember there is some bonus INF to get if you "get" Nar Shaddaa ;)

Blix 06-22-2012 08:09 PM

Iirc you should also be docked on Nar Shaddaa for the conversion conversation, she'll feel cooped up on Ebon Hawk and you take her around that big open space in NS where Kreia gave you that mental lecture before.

Darth Avlectus 06-24-2012 12:46 PM

I find if I go to nar shaddaa last or next to last, my character will have the needed awareness and such.

I've never been able to pull off a darkside game where I get her AND am able to fight Zez Kai Ell while he is at his most formidable using the Juyo form. Partly because once the final sequence is initiated, you cannot leave nar shadda and you don't get her until then.

You can only fulfill 2 of 3: you can play a darkside game and fight zez kai ell while he uses juyo but it has to be the last jedi master you meet and by then your influence will be too dark for mira to want to join you.

You can have a darkside game and have mira join but you won't get to fight the most formidable [edit:VERSION OF] zez kai ell.

And obviously you can't not have a dark side game if you kill zez kai ell.

Blix 06-26-2012 06:48 PM

^
Ever 'helped' the Dantooine mercs ship Vrook off of the planet, it's a good funny scene >:D

Obi-Wan Bologna 06-27-2012 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blix (Post 2814723)
^
Ever 'helped' the Dantooine mercs ship Vrook off of the planet, it's a good funny scene >:D

Don't remember that one. Is there a vid on youtube of it?

Darth Avlectus 06-28-2012 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blix (Post 2814723)
^
Ever 'helped' the Dantooine mercs ship Vrook off of the planet, it's a good funny scene >:D

Yeah. He's not so understanding about it either. :dev9: Unless I missed something.

I was simply trying to avoid his ungrateful chiding input. Wow. Didn't know that was criteria for having been "irrevocably corrupted by the dark side".

He could obviously handle himself.

Obsidian just wanted to portray him as a wholly unreasonable character. If that was true, why should he show the exile anything relating to forms?

If there were an allowance to [lie] as you told the mercs ship him off, you could later disarm his hostility telling him:
"Hey, I knew you could obviously handle yourself. Besides I'd endanger the mission if I roused suspicion by busting you out. Besides, it wasn't like you'd have thanked me for it."

That'd shut him up real quick for about a minute. Then he'd come back with some suitable cop-out before changing the subject.

And I'd just... :roleyess: "Riiiiight."

Blix 06-28-2012 09:59 PM

^
That's why I HATE Vrook, he is a bigger schutta than Atris.


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