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Disturbed205 08-28-2012 09:49 AM

Tougher on trolls/bloated heads?
Let me start off by saying I've always enjoyed lucasforums, and it's a great community, but as of late, especially in Holowan Labs..I've noticed many of the older modders have began belittling and discouraging new modders. The community used to be excited and welcome new modders, but now people act like it's an exclusive VIP club.

In my opinion, posts on WIP should be constructive feedback, advice, etc and NOT posts complaining about how the author should give up because it's already been done, it's probably too hard don't bother, etc. This is horrible for a community and many people just leave after these "veteran" modders walk into every thread to troll.

tl;dr: I ask for the opinions of the moderators, and the community on the topic of stricter enforcement of rules (especially that of Holowan and WIP threads).

Feedback should be useful, not rude!

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thejman217 08-28-2012 06:52 PM

I totally agree. Even though I am not a modder myself, I as well have noticed many other experienced modders who are new to the forums discourage new modders.

I think it should be stopped, as it could prevent those "newb" modders to create brilliant mods in the future.

Who knows? Maybe one of those "newb" modders could be the future of KotOR 1 & 2 modding.

Blix 08-28-2012 07:52 PM

The really bad trolls (I can only recall one at the moment) got banned a while back and is still on ban-status as I know. The others while trollish, usually just refuse to see any other point of view in a debate and enjoy stirring up arguments so that they can say "yay I wun gaiz!" at the end of the day. But I agree useful feedback is useful, acting like a know-it-all smartass isn't helping anyone.

mimartin 08-29-2012 11:13 AM

Can’t say I agree or disagree since I have not seen many/any reported post coming from Holowan Labs. Just checked… since July 2 only 1 reported post.

Moderators cannot read every post. I will admit I hardly ever go into Holowan Labs since I know little to nothing about the technical side of the games, but if you report a post, I get a email and I do check the post then and if it is something involving modification of the game, then I will chat with someone that knows more about that then I do. However, I don’t need help it is just a trolling post. So if you see a post that you consider violating the rules then please report it. Not sure the moderator will tar and feather the culprit, but we will look at the post and determine if it violates the rules and if so take appropriate action.

So if you have a problem with a post that violates forum rules, then please share that with staff by reporting the post. :)


Q 08-30-2012 11:38 AM

Yeah, Redhawke used to moderate Holowan and the TUCE with an iron fist. :xp:

Since he isn't around anymore, things are bound to get a little out of control in there.

.:Lord Revan:. 08-30-2012 11:49 AM

^He was on 2 months ago.

Sithspecter 08-31-2012 12:47 AM

Well, I too have noticed this trend. It's occurred way too often, and you definitely have a point. There have been quite a few older members who do belittle newer modders on what they decide to mod.

I'll post a sticky, and see that this comes to a stop. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

RedHawke 09-16-2012 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Q (Post 2817569)
Yeah, Redhawke used to moderate Holowan and the TUCE with an iron fist. :xp:

I had to go off and get new sharpened spikes for my fist. ;P


Originally Posted by Q (Post 2817569)
Since he isn't around anymore, things are bound to get a little out of control in there.

I'm here, just not as much as I used to be able to be. I do keep an eye on the reported posts, so if any get reported and they are bad I will stomp on them.

Q 09-30-2012 03:44 AM

LOL, good to see that you're around. :)

You've always been one of the good guys, despite your "Shadow Lord of the Sith™" persona.

Prime 10-03-2012 09:48 AM

I am also on the list of moderators there and I look at reported post emails that I get. So if you guys feel that someone is being inappropriate, PLEASE report it and we will to address it. I don't browse in there very often, so I don't see everything either.

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