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thejman217 10-04-2012 02:49 PM

Anyone here a football (soccer) fan?
 
Anyone here a football (soccer) fan? If so what's your favorite club? What's your favorite national team if you have one?

My favorite club is FC Bayern Munich, and my favorite national team is Germany (I was born in Berlin).

So what's your favorite club and/or national team?

Miltiades 10-04-2012 03:06 PM

I'm not doing this on purpose I swear, but Chelsea-fan here. And just for the record, I was fan from before the Abramovich-era. I still have my Autoglass shirt, which is far too small now, of course, for me to wear it. :)

And Red Devil (Belgium) fan, of course, though my patience and dedication have been tested for some time. But it seems like they're back on track, with a lot of amazing players. I hope they reach Brasil, but getting past Croatia will be difficult in the qualifications.

thejman217 10-04-2012 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Miltiades (Post 2820543)
I'm not doing this on purpose I swear, but Chelsea-fan here. And just for the record, I was fan from before the Abramovich-era. I still have my Autoglass shirt, which is far too small now, of course, for me to wear it. :)

And Red Devil (Belgium) fan, of course, though my patience and dedication have been tested for some time. But it seems like they're back on track, with a lot of amazing players. I hope they reach Brasil, but getting past Croatia will be difficult in the qualifications.

It's alright. I'm no longer mad at Chelsea for winning. I'm angry at our bad luck and Arjen Robben's arrogance (wanting to take the penalty before the penalty shootout even though Schweinsteiger wanted to take it.)

And it's nice to see a true Chelsea fan. Most of the Chelsea fans I know are plastic fans and are fans only since they won the Champion's League or because of Eden Hazard joining Chelsea and how "talented" (good, but overrated) he is. (Bandwagons)

However, while I was born in Germany, I have Bosnian-Herzegovinian origins :). And for our qualifiers, we have the easiest group. The toughest team in our group is Greece! *laughs*

Sabretooth 10-04-2012 04:10 PM

Once every four years I spontaneously transform into a football fan and cheer for Germany, and Germany only, despite not knowing anyone in the team.

Pho3nix 10-04-2012 04:13 PM

West Ham for life.

thejman217 10-04-2012 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabretooth (Post 2820547)
Once every four years I spontaneously transform into a football fan and cheer for Germany, and Germany only, despite not knowing anyone in the team.

I'm assuming you follow Germany during the World Cup? Haha follow them every two years! World Cup AND Euro 2012!

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Originally Posted by Pho3nix (Post 2820548)
West Ham for life.

:)

Tommycat 10-04-2012 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pho3nix (Post 2820548)
West Ham for life.

Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

thejman217 10-04-2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommycat (Post 2820573)
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

By West Ham? Did they concede, like, thirty goals or something?

@Sabretooth are you German?

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Oh my god......THEY WON A GAME?! West Ham must have torn the fabric of space and time.......the universe should be imploding on itself right now....why isn't it?

3rd EDIT
Does anyone her have/play FIFA 13?

Ping 10-04-2012 11:51 PM

I support my local American team, Philadelphia Union (yes, we have a soccer league, and one that is actually quite good, too) and Liverpool FC. Both teams are currently trying my patience with awful seasons, though it looks like Liverpool might be turning things around.

Also follow the USA national team. I can't complain with most of the results Jurgen Klinsmann has been getting us (beating Italy and Mexico on their own turf for first time, etc), but some of his personnel and game-day choices are absolutely maddening and seem to defy logic. I also follow the women's national team, though that's probably because they're waaaaaaay better than the men's, and most of the players are really attractive. :xp:

So yeah, soccer is pretty much my religion. :p

thejman217 10-05-2012 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ping (Post 2820589)
I support my local American team, Philadelphia Union (yes, we have a soccer league, and one that is actually quite good, too) and Liverpool FC. Both teams are currently trying my patience with awful seasons, though it looks like Liverpool might be turning things around.

Also follow the USA national team. I can't complain with most of the results Jurgen Klinsmann has been getting us (beating Italy and Mexico on their own turf for first time, etc), but some of his personnel and game-day choices are absolutely maddening and seem to defy logic. I also follow the women's national team, though that's probably because they're waaaaaaay better than the men's, and most of the players are really attractive. :xp:

So yeah, soccer is pretty much my religion. :p

Haha, I live in the states as well, and I know we have a decent league. Not amazing, but talented.

Football/soccer is my religion too lol.

In England, I support Manchester City. (Before they got Nasri and Aguëro and won the title)

In the MLS I support Portland, even though they've been recently on a poor streak.

And I thought Klinsmann was just going to be a flop lol. Me being born in Germany, and knowing my German "fussball" (that's what it's called in German) history, I know he won the World Cup with them, but I thought he was going to do terrible with the U.S. I'm happy to be wrong :).

Sabretooth 10-05-2012 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by thejman217 (Post 2820576)
@Sabretooth are you German?

No, I just happened to like their colours when I played FIFA 98, which was my first exposure to international football ever. >_>

Pho3nix 10-05-2012 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tommycat (Post 2820573)
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

Haha naah, It's been a while since I even bothered to watch any soccer games to be honest... I've been getting into baseball more and more.

Still a loyal Ham fan though lol

Alexrd 10-05-2012 05:40 AM

Club: Benfica from where I was born (currently on Champions and Europa Leagues) and/or Académica from where I live (currently on Europa League).

National Team: Portugal

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Originally Posted by Sabretooth (Post 2820594)
No, I just happened to like their colours when I played FIFA 98, which was my first exposure to international football ever. >_>

I used to do that for the Buffalo Sabres because I liked their logo from NHL 2000. :p

Red Hessian 10-05-2012 06:16 AM

For me it's Liverpool in England and HSV in Germany.

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Originally Posted by Sabretooth (Post 2820594)
No, I just happened to like their colours when I played FIFA 98, which was my first exposure to international football ever. >_>

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Originally Posted by Alexrd (Post 2820599)
I used to do that for the Buffalo Sabres because I liked their logo from NHL 2000. :p

Same thing for me and the Minnesota Timberwolves back in '97 :D

Miltiades 10-05-2012 07:45 AM

Oh yeah, almost forgot, I support my hometown club of Bruges, of course. They're in the Europa League and got a much needed win last night against Maritimo after the shameful display against Bordeaux in the previous match.

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Originally Posted by Sabretooth (Post 2820594)
No, I just happened to like their colours when I played FIFA 98, which was my first exposure to international football ever. >_>

Ah, FIFA 98. The memories... After a few games, I just started tackling everybody, especially the keeper.

thejman217 10-05-2012 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Hessian (Post 2820601)
Same thing for me and the Minnesota Timberwolves back in '97 :D

You're an NBA fan? Me too. The only sports I don't like: American football (too many time outs) and baseball (too boring)

The Doctor 10-05-2012 11:44 AM

Glory glory Man-United.

thejman217 10-05-2012 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Doctor (Post 2820609)
Glory glory Man-United.

Noooo! My sworn enemies!

Lol.

Ping 10-06-2012 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by thejman217 (Post 2820591)
Haha, I live in the states as well, and I know we have a decent league. Not amazing, but talented.

Football/soccer is my religion too lol.

In England, I support Manchester City. (Before they got Nasri and Aguëro and won the title)

In the MLS I support Portland, even though they've been recently on a poor streak.

And I thought Klinsmann was just going to be a flop lol. Me being born in Germany, and knowing my German "fussball" (that's what it's called in German) history, I know he won the World Cup with them, but I thought he was going to do terrible with the U.S. I'm happy to be wrong :).

When did you start supporting City? I'm surprised, considering that people will be jumping on their bandwagon now that they're really good. I've felt bad for Portland almost the entire season; arguably the best fan base in the league, and they lose to a team of amateurs in the Open Cup.

And what made you think Klinsmann would flop? As I remember, he was actually pretty good as the coach of Germany. Sure, some his results haven't exactly been as impressive as his predecessor (but when it is impressive, it is very impressive ;)), and he makes some questionable line-up and roster choices, but he hasn't had anything really disastrous happen yet.

thejman217 10-06-2012 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ping (Post 2820653)
When did you start supporting City? I'm surprised, considering that people will be jumping on their bandwagon now that they're really good. I've felt bad for Portland almost the entire season; arguably the best fan base in the league, and they lose to a team of amateurs in the Open Cup.

And what made you think Klinsmann would flop? As I remember, he was actually pretty good as the coach of Germany. Sure, some his results haven't exactly been as impressive as his predecessor (but when it is impressive, it is very impressive ;)), and he makes some questionable line-up and roster choices, but he hasn't had anything really disastrous happen yet.

Yeah, I know, it's been really dispiriting, but I'll always follow them :).

I am a Bosnian-Herzegovinian American born in Berlin. Wierd, right. I know. Anyways, I started following City as soon as Edin Džeko joined them (before Aguëro, Nasri, and other company that's extremely talented joined), and I follow any professional team with a Bosnian in it (Edin Džeko is from Bosnia), with the exception of FC Bayern and the German national team 'cause I was born there. So I followed Man City before they became good :). And I'm going to watch Sunderland vs. Man City tomorrow on ESPN 2.

Because I live in the states, I want to see the US of A do well. Don't get me wrong, I want Klinsmann to succeed with the US. However, I thought he would flop based on the US's previous successes and previous manager and how difficult it is to manage a team like the
US.

Out of all those clubs/teams, FC Bayern München I follow and support the most.

Sabretooth 10-06-2012 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Miltiades (Post 2820603)
Ah, FIFA 98. The memories... After a few games, I just started tackling everybody, especially the keeper.

Playing FIFA 98 enough should proof to biologists worldwide that humans need to evolve out of walking and into tackling as a means of locomotion.

thejman217 10-07-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabretooth (Post 2820661)
Playing FIFA 98 enough should proof to biologists worldwide that humans need to evolve out of walking and into tackling as a means of locomotion.

Haha, I 100% agree!

Humans would get around A LOT faster if they just slid everywhere.

Or if they took really huge steps to resemble non-sliding tackles.

Ping 10-08-2012 06:20 PM

So, has anyone looked at which players their countries have called up for the World Cup qualifiers? I once again have to question Klinsmann's roster decisions. He's including someone who has never been on the national team before over Jozy Altidore, who's leading the Dutch league in scoring. WTF? And if not Altidore, then why not Boyd? He's been scoring like crazy in Austria. At least Sacha Kljestan got the call over Jose Torres; the latter has not exactly been impressive for the past few national team matches.

Scorge 10-09-2012 07:11 PM

Juventus fan

thejman217 10-11-2012 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ping (Post 2820767)
So, has anyone looked at which players their countries have called up for the World Cup qualifiers? I once again have to question Klinsmann's roster decisions. He's including someone who has never been on the national team before over Jozy Altidore, who's leading the Dutch league in scoring. WTF? And if not Altidore, then why not Boyd? He's been scoring like crazy in Austria. At least Sacha Kljestan got the call over Jose Torres; the latter has not exactly been impressive for the past few national team matches.

I assume you're an avid American supporter. Do you like Klinsmann? And more importantly, do you like his tactics?

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Originally Posted by Scorge (Post 2820838)
Juventus fan

I don't see many Juventus fans around anymore. Maybe because they haven't had much success in recent years. It sucks how they along with other major Italian teams get a lot of heat for being in a supposedly fixed league.

It's nice to see Juventus draw a high scoring game against Chelsea away. Just imagine what they'll do at home :). (Honestly, I don't like Chelsea because pretty much their entire team except for Lampard are ***holes. And Eden Hazard is an ***hole AND a spoiled brat.)

Are you Italian?

Ping 10-11-2012 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by thejman217 (Post 2820917)
I assume you're an avid American supporter. Do you like Klinsmann? And more importantly, do you like his tactics?

I like Klinsmann. He has good ideas, and has gotten us wins his predecessors would have no chance at. I'm not exactly a fan of some of his tactics, since they don't make sense half the time. For example, I don't know why he keeps using 3 defensive-mids all the time, and the loss against Jamaica was just shameful, since the formation and personnel made no sense.

On the other hand, when his tactics do makes sense, I like them. Case in point: beating Scotland 5-1. :D

For now, I'm just hoping the USA can beat Antigua & Barbuda and Guatemala. I'm more worried about the former, actually, since both left-backs he called up are either injured or have the flu, and two other players had to drop out for injury. And it's an away match. Shame the team isn't as good as Germany, since then I wouldn't have to worry about not qualifying. ;)

thejman217 10-11-2012 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ping (Post 2820920)
I like Klinsmann. He has good ideas, and has gotten us wins his predecessors would have no chance at. I'm not exactly a fan of some of his tactics, since they don't make sense half the time. For example, I don't know why he keeps using 3 defensive-mids all the time, and the loss against Jamaica was just shameful, since the formation and personnel made no sense.

On the other hand, when his tactics do makes sense, I like them. Case in point: beating Scotland 5-1. :D

For now, I'm just hoping the USA can beat Antigua & Barbuda and Guatemala. I'm more worried about the former, actually, since both left-backs he called up are either injured or have the flu, and two other players had to drop out for injury. And it's an away match. Shame the team isn't as good as Germany, since then I wouldn't have to worry about not qualifying. ;)

What formation would you use if you were manager?

Ping 10-11-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by thejman217 (Post 2820931)
What formation would you use if you were manager?

Probably a 4-1-3-2 or a 4-5-1; the former worked pretty well in the USA's most recent win. The latter would give me less of a tactical headache, but on the other hand, the offense might sputter with only one striker.

thejman217 10-13-2012 03:04 PM

Hooray! The U.S. Men's National Team won their World Cup qualifier game against Antigua and Barbuda! I for sure thought they would draw 1-1 and not even make it to the World Cup.

USA! USA! USA!

maltron66 07-16-2013 02:45 PM

I'm from Greece and so my favorite team is Olympiacos F.C.
My favorite foreign clubs would be Barcelona F.C., Bayern F.C. and Manchester United.

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Originally Posted by thejman217 (Post 2820544)
It's alright. I'm no longer mad at Chelsea for winning. I'm angry at our bad luck and Arjen Robben's arrogance (wanting to take the penalty before the penalty shootout even though Schweinsteiger wanted to take it.)

And it's nice to see a true Chelsea fan. Most of the Chelsea fans I know are plastic fans and are fans only since they won the Champion's League or because of Eden Hazard joining Chelsea and how "talented" (good, but overrated) he is. (Bandwagons)

However, while I was born in Germany, I have Bosnian-Herzegovinian origins :). And for our qualifiers, we have the easiest group. The toughest team in our group is Greece! *laughs*

Man, that' not nice. Mocking us...:mad:
Just kidding!:p I would be offended by your last comment... if you hadn't you hit the nail on the head. A few days before Germany's national team beat ours, we had made a commercial using the movie "Downfall". The com showed Hitler raving that Greece would beat Germany.
The worst thing is, our guys actually believed that we would beat you guys.
When I told them to be realistic once, they all started yelling and swearing at me, telling me that I'm an idiot. And when we lost, they said that I was bad luck and that we would have won if I hadn't said anything. Yeah, dream on, idiots...:D

Taak Farst 07-16-2013 03:10 PM

Blue Moon! You saw me standin' alone!

I love and support Manchester City, and I live near the Etihad Stadium :p

Ping 07-19-2013 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by maltron66 (Post 2835451)
The worst thing is, our guys actually believed that we would beat you guys.
When I told them to be realistic once, they all started yelling and swearing at me, telling me that I'm an idiot. And when we lost, they said that I was bad luck and that we would have won if I hadn't said anything. Yeah, dream on, idiots...:D

That's very optimistic, but who in their right mind would believe you could beat Germany? The only times I've seen them get beaten are when they're having an off-day, and even then, the teams fight tooth and nail for the victory.

My summer right now has been spent watching the Gold Cup, North America's version of the Euros. I have fun watching the USA win, but it's pretty much always a certainty that it will either be them or Mexico who win the competition. That, and I'm waiting to see when Cuba will lose a player to defection. :xp: This current tournament also produced this gem:
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maltron66 07-19-2013 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ping (Post 2835569)
That's very optimistic, but who in their right mind would believe you could beat Germany? The only times I've seen them get beaten are when they're having an off-day, and even then, the teams fight tooth and nail for the victory.

My summer right now has been spent watching the Gold Cup, North America's version of the Euros. I have fun watching the USA win, but it's pretty much always a certainty that it will either be them or Mexico who win the competition. That, and I'm waiting to see when Cuba will lose a player to defection. :xp: This current tournament also produced this gem:
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1. My point exactly. I knew we wouldn't beat Germany, even if they had bean soup for breakfast. Yet, those guys in my school firmly believed we could make it. OK, everyone's got opinions, and we must respect each other's opinion... even if it's the most stupid thing you could possibly ever hear.
2. HAHAHAHA! This IS an epic fail! Sometimes, football players forget what they have to do with the ball.
Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFOGl6TuamI
And the amateurs are even worse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFdgx8k9nbA

We Greeks have everything when it comes to football:
Matches turning into box fights by both the players and the fans when something goes wrong.
Stupid fans who light so many squibs you can't see s#@t and the referee has to stop the game.
Fans that throw anything you can imagine in the stadium, trying to injure and possibly kill a player of the opposite team (Not long ago, a player tried to remove a squib and it exploded in his hand. Fortunately, the guy didn't lose his hand, but he sure as hell was shocked). Snowballs are also popular items to throw in a stadium in winter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X15WzfDk7zY (A fan throws a snowball to a player, provoking a fight.)
Fans that bring AKs to the stadium (it's true, better believe it. When the police did some checking, they found out there were people who had brought AK-47s with them. That was... 3-4 years ago? I think.)
Players trying to humiliate other players the first chance they get :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLZ28mFQf_8 (WILL YOU JUST TAKE OFF YOU PANTS, A@#$OLE!)
The worst referees in the world who thing that, if you have made a mistake and one team benefits from it, you must make another mistake so that the other team benefits from that. Meaning, giving penalties or fouls that don't exist, not giving penalties or fouls that are pretty obvious (guy gets kicked in the crotch and the referee gives him a yellow card because "the player is trying to trick him"): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGlv2tzVJeo (here a referree gives a foul and even he doesn't know why.)
And of course, the "best" players you could get. Players that always cheat. Of course: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HpZOiVY2VU (this player is one of the best deliberate divers in the history of football. Some say he's trying to compete with Michael Phelps. The Michael Phelps sign says: Michael Phelps, Dives in pool in 50.58 sec. The next one says: Giorgos Garagounis-they call him Karavoutas because he always dives like that- World Record in OAKA, Greece, Dives in Stadium for the 50.58th time.)
When it comes to our national team: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWCbqSVhas8 (2 "defenders" trying to destroy an "attacker")
Last but not least, it seems that not even our national anthem can prevent hooligans from destroying everything they find in their path (this happened in the Cup final 3 years ago): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iOEa-m0wHs
To sum up: The only thing we don't have in greek football is football.
So, if you don't want to waste time of your life, don't watch greek football (Although this is something you probably have figured out yourself...)
...
Now, tell me, with honesty...
Is there something you wouldn't expect from us when it comes to football?

Ping 07-20-2013 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by maltron66 (Post 2835575)
Now, tell me, with honesty...
Is there something you wouldn't expect from us when it comes to football?

What I would not expect is for Greeks to go to a soccer game and *not* riot. :xp: And seriously, AKs? I didn't know you could buy those in Greece. That amateur video seemed more like bad luck to me, though the video before that was a quadruple fail. :p Those refs also remind me of the ones in MLS; they typically make bad calls just for attention.

maltron66 07-21-2013 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ping (Post 2835611)
What I would not expect is for Greeks to go to a soccer game and *not* riot. :xp: And seriously, AKs? I didn't know you could buy those in Greece. That amateur video seemed more like bad luck to me, though the video before that was a quadruple fail. :p Those refs also remind me of the ones in MLS; they typically make bad calls just for attention.

Unfortunately, "riot" is a synonym of soccer game for us. The things are wild inside the stadium, but outside of it... let me tell you this, a few years ago, if you approached a crowd of fans of a certain soccer team, you better choose wisely when they asked what your favorite team was, or you'd end up in hospital... Everytime there is an Olympiacos VS Panathinaikos match (it's like Barcelona VS Real Madrid or Bayern VS Dortmund for us), rocks will be thrown to break the teams' coaches, to break heads, to make trouble for the police... This is moslty done by Olympiacos fans. Of course, I'm an Olympiacos fan too, but not a *stupid* Olympiacos fan.
Also, about the AKs... believe it. Acquiring an AK-47 is one of the easiest things in Greece. 2 days ago, two police officers were caught in a gunfight with two members of a terrorist organisation (something like the "Death Watch" in Greece). The terrorists were carrying AK-47s. We're hunting 5 criminals who escaped from prison a month ago and they have killed a police officer and a woman with what else? AK-47s... All robbers and terrorists or any type of law breakers *must* carry an AK-47 with them. In Crete (BTW, it's where I'm from), you can buy an AK for 2500-3500 euros. Worst thing is, you don't know whether those guns have been already used in a murder or a robbery or not, so if the police catches you with an AK-47 that has also been used in a murder, you're f@#%d. All in all, the AK-47 is one of the most popular weapon in Greece. If you don't believe me, ask around and they'll tell you just what I said here.

Those refs are indeed done for attention, but come on, throwing snoballs at a player? Give me a break...

Ping 07-21-2013 02:59 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Crete had about 2 or 3 teams located there. Any reason in particular why you support Olympiacos? :)

maltron66 07-22-2013 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ping (Post 2835639)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Crete had about 2 or 3 teams located there. Any reason in particular why you support Olympiacos? :)

Well, in my father's family, everyone supported Panathinaikos. His parents and his brothers all supported P, but he was the only one who supported Olympiacos. He supports O. till today. And my mother also likes Olympiacos. So, what would you expect when both your parents support this team? I'm not saying that I don't support Crete's teams (btw, they are very good, a team that just got in Super League almost made it to the finals of the Greek Cup tournament and beat Panathinaikos in both games they played). It's just that, O. is a team-for-life and it's impossible to leave when you're intoduced to that team.

That would be the 1st (and foremost) reason. The second would be that Olympiacos always wins in Greece. Unfortunately, that's not because we're good, but because the others are worthless (and that's why we can't do anything at all in European matches). 5 or 6 years ago, the matches were much more exciting. The Cup tournament finals were breathtaking. Now, we can win the cup with our eyes shut. Now we won the Super League (the Greek championship) while we were 25 points ahead of the second team, (which wasn't P). Of course, the economic crisis has affected much in Greek football. Panathinaikos has serious financial problems, so they have created a club in which all fans contribute to help the team. Another legendary team, A.E.K., has already gone bankrupt. The players hadn't been paid for more than 6 months, and they couldn't win a single match. At their last game, they had to win to stay in the Super League and not be downgraded. When they conceided 2 goals, their fans started smashing everything in their stadium, swearing and hunting the players. The team was downgraded and technically went bankrupt. They will now play in the 3rd class championship, with amateur teams. The only team that still manages to avoid financial issues is O.

But why do you bother asking about a team that has no international interest whatsoever?

Ping 07-22-2013 07:29 PM

It does a bit; their rivalry with Panathinaikos is legendary. Sounds like your dad was trying to be a rebel. ;) This also happened the other day when USA played El Salvador, and the Salvadorian fans started throwing objects on to the field: http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/29...ovanshades.gif


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