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Old 04-14-2009, 04:16 PM   #90
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Nutrients are provided by the mother if an infant is breast fed.
Correct, but I was referring to when the baby is still inside the mother. Even in cases of artificial insemination, the fertilized egg must be successfully implanted in the mother if the embryo is to develop. You seem to be forgetting this for the sake of your point.

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Actually I am addressing the point, I'm pointing out that like Catholics, I find a lot of the arguments for fertility clinics, abortions, and stem cell research to be immoral. In that stance, I'm not contradicting myself on the subject.
The discussion was all the things that can qualify as potential human beings. You changed the subject when cornered on that (post 83)

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How's it doing so far?

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If you're going to quote me, kindly quote me in context please.
Non sequitur much?

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It's a moral issue because we're talking about human life,
No, we are not. We are talking about a potential human life and lots of things fit under that umbrella. A casual examination of that list will show most reasonable people that this argument is untenable.

To recap: no human life, no moral issue.

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at what point do you define it as something like this to be unethical.
???

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That's the problem with trying to play God,
False premise #1

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what is being done devalues human life.
False premise #2

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That's the moral problem.
Faulty conclusion = failed argument.
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