Originally Posted by mimartin
When the crackpot is someone they know and they were stupid enough to give access to a tool for mass murder then they deserve to be held accountable. We are each responsible for our own freedom and rights and if that person does not have that right because of mental illness, felony conviction or age, then we are responsible for keeping our freedom out of their hands so they donít violate someone elseís right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Besides if you have a law stating they are responsible to keep their gun out of such hands and they violate that law, then they are not law aiding gun owners any longer.
People love saying guns are just a tool. Well a car is just a tool too and in the wrong hands a car can be used to murder too. If you allow access to your car to someone that does not have the legal capacity to operate it and they kill someone else, then you can be held legally and criminally responsible. What is the difference if you consider firearm just tools to?
I meant law abiding gun owners collectively, not merely the "victim" of said crackpot. (ie. b/c someone in one state is lax does not mean people elsewhere should have their rights proscribed). Otherwise, as I basically indicated, we're pretty much in agreement on that point (personal responsibility).
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