stolen avatar

Bob Gnarly · 07-20-2003, 09:22 PM

http://www.lucasforums.com/member.ph...o&userid=76802

i dunno i just felt it needed to be reported...

*mercatfat* · 07-20-2003, 09:43 PM

Get over it, I guess.

ZBomber · 07-21-2003, 01:33 AM

*Encourages Young Dadvid for the punsihemnt to be one ngiht with Rhett, and a chainsaw*

pbguy1211 · 07-21-2003, 01:48 AM

while not "illegal" it certainly is a d*ck move on his part...

Young David · 07-21-2003, 09:46 AM

Sending a pm to him ...

Thank you

Bob Gnarly · 07-21-2003, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mercatfat
Get over it, I guess.

ok, i guess...if you dont care....

Quote:

Originally posted by pbguy1211
while not "illegal" it certainly is a d*ck move on his part...

actually it is "illegal" on the forums to use someone elses avatar without permission. readd the forums rules.

STTCT · 07-21-2003, 09:48 AM

*grabs pitchforks and sticks!

Lets Get-em!!!!

"BURN HIM AT THE STAKE" shouts one forumer
"HANG EM!!!" shouts another

hehehehe

WTF does he think he's doing....blatently taking an avatar that you clearly made. It be another if it just happened to be coincidence but how many obi won meets matrix avis are there out there????

uh huh

didn't think so

Sam Fisher · 07-21-2003, 11:31 AM

Last time I burned something at the stake, it was one of rhett's stealing elvs.

The Cheat · 07-21-2003, 11:43 AM

thats real cheap to take somebody's avatar without asking

even the cheat wouldnt do that

pbguy1211 · 07-21-2003, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by -=K1ngPin=-
actually it is "illegal" on the forums to use someone elses avatar without permission. readd the forums rules.

*puzzled* Really?!
I'm looking (for arguements sake) to find something which states it as "illegal" but i can't seem to find anything...

Young David · 07-21-2003, 12:22 PM

http://www.lucasforums.com/showthrea...threadid=30755

item 6

Bob Gnarly · 07-21-2003, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt-Windu in the swamp
6. Avoid duplicating anybody's nickname, avatar, and/or sig images. Make or find your own. This also applies to people outside our community (ie names of people of another community). It is strictly prohibited to impersonate someone else.

Victory is mined.

Young David · 07-21-2003, 12:24 PM

ha, beat you to it

pbguy1211 · 07-21-2003, 12:35 PM

Ah TY! I was looking in the wrong place.
But now does this pertain only to the GB off-topic forum? Or the ENTIRE forum?

Bob Gnarly · 07-21-2003, 12:54 PM

it should be everywhere

The Cheat · 07-21-2003, 01:29 PM

its basically the rules for all of the lucas forums because if he posts there he is using that stolen avatar

i dont know what im talking about but oh well

*mercatfat* · 07-21-2003, 04:29 PM

Look, he saw a good looking avatar and borrowed it. Consider it a compliment. Also notice that that post says "avoid", not "don't do it or we'll ban you". If he wants it, it's his.

Young David · 07-21-2003, 05:43 PM

Maybe a strange comparison ... but how would feel is somebody took a pictore of your face as an avatar ... you'd go like ... HEY that's mine (considering that you're not a celebrety and the thief does not know you and you don't know him)

pbguy1211 · 07-21-2003, 05:46 PM

while it's not illegal it wasn't very nice of him. And someone should kindly ask him to remove it. Legal or illegal it wasn't nice... and he should remove it.

*mercatfat* · 07-21-2003, 05:50 PM

Actually I'd probably say "Hey, it's nice to see another guy who loves shifty eyes and Ghost World as much as I do."

Then I'd promote him to admin and smile profusely.

Bob Gnarly · 07-21-2003, 05:54 PM

I KNEW IT, i knew your avatar and custom title where from Ghost world i just wasnt 100% sure

ZBomber · 07-22-2003, 02:12 AM

Hmm, its not really the same av... its jsut Obi Wan, but with a Matrix Backround...... I dunno. I say let the final choice be up to David.

STTCT · 07-22-2003, 04:47 AM

YD changed his avi since it happened. YD is nice. He woulda just made the guy one

Lil Killa · 07-22-2003, 05:58 AM

I don't see what all the fus is about I mean it's a picture plain and simple. sure it may be someone elses work of art but unless it is copyrighted or something like that I don't see why anyone shouldn't be ably to use anyone elses av or sig pic.

I make my av and sig pics so that no one actually can take them and actually like having them lol.

Young David · 07-22-2003, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by STTCT
YD changed his avi since it happened. YD is nice. He woulda just made the guy one

Not exactly ... I changed the avi back to the regulair one a few days ago, just before this thread was made ...

ZBomber · 07-22-2003, 12:55 PM

I agree with you Kila, but he could atleast asked permission from David. Even if he said no, I'm sure he'd make him one.

***Lynk Former*** · 07-22-2003, 01:53 PM

I know I would be angry if anyone stole my avatar. I mean i made it and it has ME in it so if anyone else used it I'd think of them as being a bastard and I'd do what I could to get them to change it and never steal my av again.

pbguy1211 · 07-22-2003, 02:18 PM

I'd be pissed if someone stoll my avi since it's not really able to be made by everyone for another 2 months. however... now YD has a wicked new avi! The One Ring!

**swphreak** · 07-22-2003, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lil Killa
I don't see what all the fus is about I mean it's a picture plain and simple. sure it may be someone elses work of art but unless it is copyrighted or something like that I don't see why anyone shouldn't be ably to use anyone elses av or sig pic.

It's called Plagiarism. It's his intellecual property.

*mercatfat* · 07-22-2003, 04:57 PM

Actually, it's legally OK under the fair use law, since he's not using it for personal profit.

If you really want to play the overzealous legal wannabe, though, the matrix code and the Obi-wan are both intellectual property stolen from their respective sources.

***matt--*** · 07-22-2003, 04:58 PM

Anyone that creates a work holds the copyright to it.

YD, If you want me to kill 'his' avatar, send me a pm.

***MrManager*** · 07-22-2003, 08:17 PM

Holds the copyright to the Star Wars and Matrix part?

The user doesn't hold any copyright to any of those.

Still lame for somebody else to nab it obviously, but oh well.

Young David · 07-22-2003, 08:35 PM

I PM-ed him ... He pm-ed back

Quote:

Originally PM-ed to YD by VA_Rebel_Spies

Sorry about that. A freind gave it to me as well as others. I'll chaneg that.

Rebel

That was yesterday ... I'll give him one day more (it's a shame how bad the english is from some americans).

On the topic of avatar stealing.

Ofcourse obi wan, the matrix code and the ringspell are property of big companies. Yet they allow use of their pictures to a certain degree. Otherwise sites like theforce.net and theonering.net couldn't even exist. For fan reasons limited use of their material is allowed ...

You'd think LG did pay to create the LF banner at the top of this page? No, they didn't (correct me if I'm wrong).

Why do I find this important? Well ... first, making an animated avatar is not as easy as scaling a picture to 70x70 pixels. My basis avatar 'obi.gif' is a frame by frame subtraction from a SW trailer, rescaled, adjusted and made less than 20kb.

the 'obi-matrix.gif' is a whole other story. I've combined two animations with different sizes and frames and made them transparant. Because of increase of motion in the animation I had to drop some frames and decrease the quality a bit. After that it took some color adjustment (like the obi-ring.gif avatar, it needs more blue) to coplete it.

Second, the avatar represents me. When people see a post with an animated holo obi-wan next to it, they think of me. There's only one who has that avatar, and that's me. It's kinda like my face on the forum.

So I don't wanna see anyone with that avatar running around here, let alone without asking permission. That's not only for obi.gif, but also obi-matrix.gif, obi-ring.gif and all future variations ...

Bob Gnarly · 07-22-2003, 08:36 PM

Still an avatars supposed to represent you and if hes stealing another persons avatar hes not really representing himself hes showing the avatar of someone else. So LK your avatar cant be stolen unless someone else has those initials but then again yours isnt the fanciest thing in the world so no one would think about stealing it.

DAMN YOU YD, YOU BEAT ME TO IT AGAIN!

The Cheat · 07-22-2003, 08:57 PM

yeah an avatar is a very personal thing and it isnt cool when somebody uses one that you work hard to make

***matt--*** · 07-23-2003, 12:37 AM

General characters would probably fall under the fair use clause.

Quote:

Originally posted by RemiO
Holds the copyright to the Star Wars and Matrix part? The user doesn't hold any copyright to any of those.

Still lame for somebody else to nab it obviously, but oh well.

Young David · 07-25-2003, 10:32 AM

It appears he changed the avatar ...

one less thing to worry about.