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Old 12-18-2003, 08:06 PM   #1
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A not to commonly known staff move...?

I am an EXTREMELY experienced veteran to outcast and academy...but the other day, a friend of mine stumbled across a move with staff that I have NEVER seen ANYONE do. He figured out how to do it, and showed me as well.


With staff, you jump extremely high in the air, flip mid air, and swing your saber over your head, then land hard (where you cant move for a second). It RARELY ever hits....since it's rare to hit someone in the air that high, but if it hits, it does 60-70 damage.

I find it more useful to quickly move out of the way of a butterfly or red DFA. If you do it standing still, they'll pass right under you and you'll land behind them. It sorta looks like you're flip-kicking mid-air as well.



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Old 12-18-2003, 08:12 PM   #2
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I done that move once! Shame I can't remember how to do that again. I think I pressed back + jump + mouse button 1...

Something along the lines of that..
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Old 12-18-2003, 08:13 PM   #3
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And you just found this move now?


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Old 12-18-2003, 08:18 PM   #4
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Just to check, how DO you do it? I wouldn't know because I stick to single religiously.


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Old 12-18-2003, 08:18 PM   #5
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ive performed that move a few times. i never tryed to master it. to many commaned for one move. but ill look into it. if u want me to.
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Old 12-18-2003, 08:21 PM   #6
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Yeah, I figured someone would have to throw in an sarcastic insult, and g//plaZma is the one.

DUH...why ask again, I ALREADY SAID I NEVER SAW IT BEFORE.


As for how...it's just like the butterfly, but instead of fowards, left, or right, it's back.


back, jump, then attack.


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Old 12-18-2003, 08:29 PM   #7
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I knew this from day one. I've actually won two duels with that move, I executed the trick while he was jumping, but it was pure coincidence, I just did it, and he just happened to be on top of me while I was doing it.


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Old 12-18-2003, 08:30 PM   #8
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Since the patch, I've notice this move done while someone is jumping at you produces a 1hit kill often. Good thing no1's figured this out or use's it much. (would just be more crap for this unbalanced lame staff )



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Old 12-18-2003, 08:31 PM   #9
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Yeah, I figured someone would have to throw in an sarcastic insult, and g//plaZma is the one.

DUH...why ask again, I ALREADY SAID I NEVER SAW IT BEFORE.


As for how...it's just like the butterfly, but instead of fowards, left, or right, it's back.


back, jump, then attack.
... It's in the moves list.


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Old 12-18-2003, 09:26 PM   #10
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Yeah, I um, also knew of that since day one, but I've never tried to use it. How do you use it effectivly?




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Old 12-18-2003, 09:29 PM   #11
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If someone happens to be way up in the air....just do it and let them run into you...but how often are they way up in the air...


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Old 12-18-2003, 09:30 PM   #12
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... It's in the moves list.

and your point is? other than continuing trying to insult me?


You can go on as much as you want, but the fact is....I've never seen it used.


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Old 12-18-2003, 09:39 PM   #13
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and your point is? other than continuing trying to insult me?


You can go on as much as you want, but the fact is....I've never seen it used.
I'm not trying to insult you, I'm just trying to prove that it is a widely known move, as Raven included it on the moves list. It's just not used a lot since its use is not practical.

I'm sorry if I looked like I was insulting you, I just thought that by now it would be known to most people.


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Old 12-18-2003, 09:54 PM   #14
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You mean the "Back Flip" ?


I swear that was even in the game's documentation, but I could be wrong.

Anyway, yeah, it's a fancy move that uses no force mana. Good for escapes, but rarely hits.

Though it's capable of cutting a jumpy person in half. <eg>
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Update: don't sweat it. A lot of people don't read the readme, manual or the in-game video help. They just figure moves out on their own, which is why we have people asking how to do moves...

Or they get confused between SP and MP and ask why moves don't work.


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Old 12-18-2003, 11:36 PM   #15
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I have people ingame asking me all the time how I do it. It's not commonly known to most.


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Old 12-19-2003, 12:58 AM   #16
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i thought everyone knew that move...

i know a move that most people dont tho. one of my favourites too
u go back-right attack then right attack and u do a super spinny move u can do the same thing going left but the animation is broken


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Old 12-19-2003, 03:30 AM   #17
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Ha! Finally, a way to counter the red DFA and butterfly. thx.

But this kind of thing is useless againts lag.




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Old 12-19-2003, 02:22 PM   #18
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Ha! Finally, a way to counter the red DFA and butterfly. thx.
...I read a lot of people having trouble with the red DFA - but it really isn't that big of a deal.


1- Take two steps to either side so it misses.
2- Perform #1 and then side swipe to counter.
3- If you're really quick - perform #1, then run behind and backstab them.
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