What is canon ? - Page 2

Astrotoy7 · 12-20-2005, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ^Invader

I agree i feel SS is full of it, personally his involvement in anything. IF he worked with LFL or whatnot he would be under a NDA, and from what i see on his site he more likes to talk folx down and very willing to talk about it. Most guys in the 501st thinks he's full of it, and im one of them.

lolz... I dont think even SS's mother is that fond of him

what's there to be proud of ??

*but before this thread degenerates into a SS hate-fest, I request we steer the topic of discussion back onto canon...

mtfbwya

splintercell56 · 01-23-2006, 11:29 PM

I am new to these forums, originally I was only part of the Empire At War forums, but for reasons I do not know or care I was asked to re-register for the Empire At War.net forums and now have access to these forums as well. Seeing as how it seams these forums and the individuals who grace them appear to be more understanding then most I have a question about what is "cannon".

Ever since reading the NJO and discovering this new Jedi Philosophy, can't exactly remember what it was called or even if it had a name. But is it considered "cannon"? Me personally being a big fan of the original three ever since I was a child, always considered the force to have two sides the Light and Dark, and have direct consequences for using anger to fuel ones power in the force. So where does this new Jedi Philosophy fit in? If it fits in at all?

Thank You for taking your time to read and reply to my question.

Astrotoy7 · 01-24-2006, 05:09 AM

Hello splintercell, welcome to the EU forums

This question is equally applicable in the Dark Nest Trilogy thread, but also applies in this discussion. The first page of this thread outlines Lucasfilm Licensing's current canon classification standard.

The novels, books, comics, even the Clone Wars series fall into a secondary category called C-level. Thi "highest" level is G-level basically anything that appears in the movies or screenplays, and was written by George Lucas himself. Therefore, even the movie novelisations(except ANH) can be considered C level canon.

Hence, the NJO and the Dark Nest books are definitely canon.

As for the revised force philosophy, this isnt really held by all the jedi. If you read the Dark Nest Trilogy, you will learn about the clashes this is causing in the jedi order. There is more discussion about this in the Dark Nest thread(see main page). Personally, I find the new philosophy refreshing, but it doesnt seem like its going to be adhered to by most of the jedi, in particular the Masters Council.

mtfbwya

Darth_Terros · 01-24-2006, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Astrotoy7

As for the revised force philosophy, this isnt really held by all the jedi. If you read the Dark Nest Trilogy, you will learn about the clashes this is causing in the jedi order. There is more discussion about this in the Dark Nest thread(see main page). Personally, I find the new philosophy refreshing, but it doesnt seem like its going to be adhered to by most of the jedi, in particular the Masters Council.

mtfbwya

Maybe a NJO civil war is just around the corner?

perhaps - I havent read Book 2 or 3 yet

mtfbwya

**Jan Gaarni** · 01-25-2006, 05:28 AM

Just a sidenote: Splintercell, you have always had access to these forums.

When you registered for the Empire at War.Net forums, you essentially registered at LucasForums.com, and not Empire at War.net forums alone.

So you have access to the Jedi Knight.net forums, Xwing Alliance.net forums, Dark Forces forums, etc etc ......

Astrotoy7 · 01-25-2006, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jan Gaarni

Just a sidenote: Splintercell, you have always had access to these forums.

When you registered for the Empire at War.Net forums, you essentially registered at LucasForums.com, and not Empire at War.net forums alone.

So you have access to the Jedi Knight.net forums, Xwing Alliance.net forums, Dark Forces forums, etc etc ......

werdz. what may have happened is that he had gone into a new area and couldnt get on because he wasnt logged in. Thats happened to me. Maybe someone should delete his extraneous account, lest he gets accidentally banned for it !

mtfbwya

**Jan Gaarni** · 01-26-2006, 03:28 AM

I'll have a look at it when I get home.

Davinq · 07-29-2006, 04:11 PM

Uh oh, I hope jedi3112 hasn't found this thread yet. He has a very warped sense of canon. See the Exile Female (Canon) post in the Telos Tourist Bureau to see why

PoiuyWired · 07-29-2006, 07:04 PM

Well, DOn't revive old thread... then again this is a Sticky.

I am kinda used to people warped sense of Canon, like the ones who would ignore G-canon(yes I say G-canon not C-canon, as they think they are better than GL on what is correct) and believe in his own sense of so-called "canonized existance"

These SS-oids are not as uncommon as we would hope unfortunately.

The Source · 12-29-2006, 07:15 PM

I know this is an old thread, but as people have said, "This is a sticky."

After thinking about what the Expanded Universe is about, I drew one simple conclusion to all this canon talk. The Star Wars Movies are the sole source of main canon. Everything that is called "Expanded Universe' is secondary canon, and only hold weight to their appropriate series or genera.

What got me ticked about the 'New Jedi Order' is that it pulled all of EU together. I personally hate the idea of unifying EU. Why? What I like about EU (before NJO) was that I could find my own series to hide in, and there were multiple-creative perspectives of Star Wars. Now, every writter has to stay consistant. Grrr... If I want to keep Chewbacca alive, I could easily follow a particular writter. Because of what was descided by the powers-that-be, that is to unify EU, I am beginning to be turned away from Star Wars novels. I no longer have my own EU-canon version to follow. Instead, I have cheap writting, cheap grammar, and cheap storylines to follow. Gr... At the current moment, there is no escape from 'NJO' cannon. Very sad...

**Jae Onasi** · 04-19-2007, 12:07 AM

Jae's vision of canon....

**swphreak** · 04-19-2007, 10:30 AM

After reading that, your degrees of canon suck.

It goes: George Lucas, Movies, probably TV shows, and then the EU (books, comics, games). The NJO is EU, fan fiction does not exist in EU, and I guess the radio stuff can fit somewhere with the TV shows.

Wait... was that an attempt at a funny? I can't tell if you were being serious or not.

**Jan Gaarni** · 04-19-2007, 07:32 PM

She was being funny, yes.

**Jae Onasi** · 04-20-2007, 02:05 AM

Aww, Phreak, you ought to know by now that I'm an ornery cuss.

Astrotoy7 · 05-06-2007, 07:41 AM

Jae - saying wookiepedia around here is a bookable offence

*issues yellow card*

mtfbwya