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Old 06-22-2007, 05:00 PM   #81
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You are saying that sales of the game mean people like the dice combat in the game, you're placing value on that.
And what would be the problem with that?

No offense, but your arguments totally suck.
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Old 06-23-2007, 11:27 AM   #82
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Ah, the replay value, probably the most important aspect to any Great RPG.
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Old 06-24-2007, 06:50 AM   #83
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Actually, for K3, I'm not going to make any demands about gameplay and all, since all of them have already been stated here. I want more focus on the Merchants of the game. The buy/sell system was a bit not-normal, IMO. I mean that Revan bought items with a fixed price with no questions asked, and there was no way to sell any item for even a 5 credit profit. What I want to see is a buy/sell system where you can actually barter over the price and be able to say fake stuff about items you're selling just to get a profit. Bartering and profits may not exactly be on the agenda of a Jedi, but hey, its fun, and it'll make buying/selling stuff more fun.

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Why yes, actually, it was. At least it was original, unlike KotOR which was a carbon copy of Ep. 4-6.
Just out of curiosity, how exactly are they similar? There aren't any father-son relations in KotOR, for one.


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Old 06-24-2007, 07:34 AM   #84
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Just out of curiosity, how exactly are they similar? There aren't any father-son relations in KotOR, for one.
It isn't exactly a "carbon copy", but there are several similarities.

The Death Star was a powerful moon having immense power that symbolized the Empire's power. Same goes for the Star Forge, which was the source of the Sith power.

Darth Vader was a cyborg villain, apprenticed to a more powerful Sith Lord. Malak had an implant too, and was formerly apprenticed to Revan.

Revan, at start didn't know he would become a hero (he didn't even know who he truly was). Luke didn't know he would become a hero, neither did he know who he truly was.

Like Vader had a connection to Luke, Malak had a connection to Revan.

There are several more similarities.


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Old 06-24-2007, 10:03 AM   #85
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Yeah, Jolee's got a beard similar to Obi-Wans too... what a rip off!!

DEV: Remember those film's from a galaxy far away that we all love?

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DEV: Remember how they had recurring motif's, the ole good versus Evil stuff, Stories and characters akin to 1930's matinée sci-fi?

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DEV: Well there's non of that, but where still calling it star wars, come and buy it!!

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Old 06-24-2007, 10:10 AM   #86
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Oh come on. If you can't see how closely KOTOR 1 resembles the original trilogy, you're beyond saving.

It's not an awful crime though. I prefered TSL myself.
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Old 06-24-2007, 10:17 AM   #87
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where in that post would you detect I don't Know that KOTOR vaguely resembles the OT?
In fact, that's one of the reason's I love K1 so much more than TSL.

EDIT: That previous post was my sarcastic attempt at humor, it would be my reaction at a third game that steered ever further from the reason I like KOTOR.

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Old 06-24-2007, 01:15 PM   #88
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This is ridiculous. The similarities are vague at best. Let's take a look at the cast.

You have:

Revan: Luke Skywalker.

Carth: Han Solo and Wedge Antilles

Bastila: Obi-Wan Kenobi and Leia.

Zaalbar: Chewbacca

T3-M4: R2-D2

HK-47: C-3PO

Canderous: Uh...Lando? Maybe Boba Fett?

Mission Vao: I guess she's more of Han Solo, maybe with a little Leia mixed in.

Jolee Bindo: Obi-Wan Kenobi and Yoda.

Malak: Vader and the Emperor

Saul Karath: Admiral Piett

Darth Bandon: Vader again?

Calo Nord: The Bounty Hunters aboard the Executor, Boba Fett in particular.

Davik Kang: Jabba?

I think that's all the significant characters.

I really shouldn't have to explain everything wrong with these analogs. One, Luke Skywalker isn't a Sith Lord with his mind wiped being manipulated by the Jedi into locating the Death Star. Carth's analog is actually somewhat accurate. Bastila is a young woman, not an elderly gentleman, she's not a princess of anywhere, she doesn't die, she's not a politician, and she's attracted to Revan, not Carth. Zaalbar kind of fits. Mission kind of fits. T3 fits. But C-3PO is nothing like HK. He's not psychotic, he's prissy, and is terrified of fighting, whereas HK relishes it. Their roles in the plot are completely different, 3PO basically serves as a translator and plot device, HK just shoots people for fun.

Canderous' analogs were the closest I could get. I won't even bother explaining what's wrong with those unless you really want me to. The rest fit into their analogs alright.

Then there's the plot.

Okay, opening.

Luke wakes up onboard the Tantive IV. They're under attack! Biggs runs in and tells him to get his equipment, they have to find Leia and Obi-Wan! They leave their quarters with stormtroopers swarming all over the corvette and make for the bridge. After fighting through several stormtroopers, they come into the bridge, which is already empty. They make their way out of the bridge again until they're attacked by Darth Vader. Biggs tells Luke that he'll hold him off and to make for the escape pods. Luke is then contacted by Wedge and Han who are holding the last escape pod. They guide him through the rest of the Tantive IV until they reach the escape pods, then they blow the pods and drop into Mos Eisley, whereupon Luke is rendered unconscious and Wedge and Han drag him to an abandoned apartment complex.

They're really not very similar.
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Old 06-24-2007, 01:43 PM   #89
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^^^
Agreed, I've often had this conversation with people regarding originality, and that's what I haven't been able to put into words
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Old 06-24-2007, 10:07 PM   #90
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