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11-05-2008, 05:12 PM
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Grim Fandango puzzle/design document released
Beyond the post I just made on Mojo, I think the only thing I can really add is: wow. 
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11-05-2008, 05:48 PM
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ohhhhhh thaaaaaaanks!
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11-05-2008, 08:18 PM
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zomg!
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11-06-2008, 04:58 AM
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Holy crap!
Pizza demon, giraffe woman.. this is awesome!
We may have years, we may have hours, but sooner or later, we push up flowers.
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11-06-2008, 06:12 AM
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WOW
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11-06-2008, 12:59 PM
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Thanks for the heads up, it looks awesome.
It’s great to still be getting new things after all this time.
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11-10-2008, 04:21 AM
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*drools* Wow 
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11-10-2008, 09:13 AM
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talk about a walkthrough!
lol p.72, "To protect this document, please restrict your fallen tears of joy to this box."
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11-14-2008, 07:57 AM
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Man, I almost missed the whole thing. I only visited the website to get the patch since I suddenly felt like playing the game again and noticed the mention of this.
I wish that Manny's brother segment had been in the final game. It would have brought even more depth to Manny's character and the dream-talk puzzle sounded like it would have been fun to solve. I guess the bit might have felt out of place in the actual game, but it doesn't stop me from desperately wanting to play it.
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11-14-2008, 08:04 AM
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*curses*
It's gone!
I forgot to save a copy to my hard drive too.
Dang 
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11-14-2008, 09:32 AM
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aww, they didn't put any flowers on it!
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11-14-2008, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by King Dando
*curses*
It's gone!
I forgot to save a copy to my hard drive too.
Dang 
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Once something is online, it can never be taken down for good.  There's a link to it in the comments to this post.
EDIT: Wow, Du Man! That's an awesome cake! I would never have the heart to eat it.
Last edited by VampireNaomi; 11-14-2008 at 09:54 AM.
Reason: Forgot a bit
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11-14-2008, 02:41 PM
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^ Thank you! 
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11-15-2008, 08:19 AM
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I've hosted a copy on the DOD... that isn't likely to cause any legal problems, is it?
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11-15-2008, 11:38 AM
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LucasArts made Schafer take it down, so if they catch you they'll probably do the same. For this reason I've opted not to mirror it anywhere at the moment on the LFN — although I'll stealthily slip it up once they've forgotten about this.
Up to you if you want to take the risk, really. 
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11-15-2008, 11:53 AM
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Ah ok - I didn't realise LucasArts actually asked him to remove it. For that reason I took it down for now, for the safety of the site 
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11-15-2008, 05:46 PM
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wow man, they are big meanies!
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11-15-2008, 06:42 PM
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I just don't get what they thought they would achieve by that. The game is ten years old and that document could have done nothing to hurt LA - there was no controversial info or company secrets, and since they will probably never release anything new GF-related again, it couldn't have hurt any sales either.
If anything, I think the document would have brought positive attention to the game and reminded people that it exists. If I were LA, I'd be happy to keep the fanbase active in case I ever wanted to make more money from GF again.
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11-16-2008, 05:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Du Man
talk about a walkthrough!
lol p.72, "To protect this document, please restrict your fallen tears of joy to this box."
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What about this one? =P
Don Copal "You! Calavera! you werent in my office were you?"
Manny "no, where you?"
XD
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11-16-2008, 10:49 PM
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Quote:
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LucasArts made Schafer take it down
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LucasArts took notice!? LucasArts actually noticed and admitted Grim Fandango was/is their intellectual property? And they actually cared enough to file a DMCA take down notice? Now THAT'S and anniversary present.
Man, makes you wonder who and how many they have continually scouring the net for this stuff. Maybe they plan to incorporate some this material at some future date into, dare I say, a sequel?
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11-17-2008, 10:32 AM
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The document is on torrents if anyone wants it someone uploaded it a while back
sss
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11-21-2008, 11:22 PM
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This post is a rip! lol
What a tease Timmy.
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12-05-2008, 07:31 AM
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Pretty crazy isn't it!!
Wow, it's a lot of work. I don't know if I could do that, lol 
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12-05-2008, 07:32 PM
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No you couldn't. No offense, but there is one man, and one man only, capable of such a thing.
Yes, it's THE TIM!
We may have years, we may have hours, but sooner or later, we push up flowers.
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11-04-2009, 11:39 AM
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actually, reading the document made me wonder why there wasn't a compete version release a few years later, something like Fable, and Fable the lost chapters.
Anyway, the end of the document is unreadable, is it the same for everyone? just wondering what the intended ending was.
“Death is a natural part of life. Rejoice for those around you who transform into the Force. Mourn them do not. Miss them do not. Attachment leads to jealously. The shadow of greed, that is.” - Yoda
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03-12-2010, 09:24 AM
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I don’t know if this is already known but I just found this article that shines some light on the unreadable text at the end of the document.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/gr...doc-now-on-net
Quote from the article -
"We didn't have the last puzzle designed when I wrote that document, so I wrote two nonsense paragraphs and then overlapped them in the file so it would look like the final puzzle description was in there, but obscured by a print formatting error," writes Schafer.
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01-04-2011, 09:10 AM
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Any of u guys still have this document?? I couldn't acess it back in time, and I'd wish to look at it now. if anyone can help...
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01-10-2011, 05:34 PM
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Quote:
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Any of u guys still have this document?? I couldn't acess it back in time, and I'd wish to look at it now. if anyone can help...
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http://www.mediafire.com/?f9axhem0f0cjch4
Here, I uploaded the copy I have for you. Have fun reading =D
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01-27-2013, 11:47 PM
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Hi,
I rediscovered this pdf recently, and I took the time to work out the overlapping paragraphs (after "Manny doubles back to the car, reaches into Olivia's pile of flowers and finds his gun, then ... ... Ouch!").
It took a few hours of drawing over letters in Paint - or to be more precise, copying over letters from elsewhere on the page, changing their colour so I could overlap them and try and work out what was underneath.
One paragraph reads:
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"Maybe Hector and you could have a showdown, like in Heat, and it's really a clue, like
you see his shadow or a sunflower shaking, and that's how you know where to shoot. And
then, blam, blam, Hector's dead. Manny's a hero! Wooo! Great ending, man!"
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The other reads:
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"Something really cool happens that's too hard to explain. I could do it right now,
but it would involve traveling through time, finding out the answer, and coming back.
Although I'm pretty cool, I still can't do that. No matter how much I want to."
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Soli Deo Gloria
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03-27-2013, 02:11 PM
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haha nice! thank you counting_pine!
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03-27-2013, 10:39 PM
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Haha, nice forensic work! I'm still yet to read through the entire thing, really must get round to it. Love that Schafer wit even in the design document. 
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04-17-2013, 06:31 PM
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Great work counting_pine!!
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Originally Posted by Thrik
I'm still yet to read through the entire thing
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Can't believe it! This is outrageous 
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