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Old 06-15-2011, 03:05 AM   #6801
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GTA i know what you mean thats how i started out with my rigs brought a ****ty one then slowly modified it to be better then one day i found out it was cheaper to build your own system (slaps self in face") and have been building pc rigs since so far i've gone through 4 in the past 7 years
Yeah it's a better deal in the long run cuz you get burned on retail.

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Since my PSU is powerful enough, I don't think that's to blame.
I've never had any issues with my RAM (they're actually really nice).
I suspected my Mobo, but that doesn't make much sense because the 460 runs just fine. Also, about the Mobo, I think Speedfan is just buggy. I found a new program called "HWMonitor" and I don't get crashes.
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I've done my best to clean install my drivers and all this jazz. I did some stuff about keeping drivers from activating in boot. After a particularly potent combination of uninstalling the nVidia drivers, uninstalling my display adapter from Device Manager, cleaning all traces of nVidia drivers, and using a shady looking program to remove DirectX I ****ed up my computer so bad that for a few minutes my computer wouldn't even start up, and I couldn't turn it off unless I actually removed the power...
:0 A shady program??
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Man, I forgot I had a repair disc in a box under my bed, but I'm so glad that I looked there, hoping I would find a disc with what I needed... thanks, past self!

I restore-point'd back and instead of trying to uninstall DirectX I installed the DirectX 11 SDK in an attempt to "repair" DirectX. And it seems that worked, because restarts no longer bork my computer.

But I'm not out of the woods yet.

*brevity*
I believe that this is now a pure stability-related issue with my card since issues with driver errors and DirectX seem to be cured/ruled out.
Least you didn't do something too serious and you solved the problem there.
Also noted for reference. I'm learning from you. Thanks for sharing your experience.

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Voltage increase? Can it help improve stability now that I've fixed/cured/ruled-out many other problem spots?
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Underclocking, I'd say go ahead and try (looks like you already did).

I wouldn't know since I've never OC'd any of my machines BUT were I you I'd take great care.

It's so easy to fry something. [/capt. obvious] Because of the nature of semiconductors, no two of anything can be exactly the same Hence tolerances. And sometimes even working within safety levels still won't save it from self-destructing. Obviously a lag level below its minimum levels won't even operate the device, though.

This is risky and tricky because devices and components are made to operate within a given range. Regulated power outputs may have some leniency but I believe these are compliant with known tolerances. In plain english, the power outputs may vary slightly but they all stay within a certain "safety zone" that is known not to be destructive.

I build power supplies (not PSUs, other purposes) all the time. Computers are all an area of what I like to call "specialty logic". I have some general experience.

As to going overclock:
I think logic devices all have a safety barrier designed in of about 0.5V absolute minimum. Pushing within this tolerance level is definitely *not* advisable.

For example a CMOS device has a typical voltage of 5V, but may have an absolute maximum range of 6.6V, another CMOS may only have an absolute maximum of 5.8V. So the maximum over-voltage allowed would be 5.2V, (5.3V is right at the edge).

Or in 12V devices, some are 15V, even 18V but I personally have never seen a regulated "12V" device have more than 14.4V output. Notice again, 0.5V or greater barrier.

Still I'd agree with PR-0297, and would say NO. Don't do it. At least I strongly advise you don't. If you must, just make sure to adhere to the half volt tolerance rule and do make sure to modify heat sinks accordingly before actually turning the device on.

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The heatsink on this card is huge and I suspect it can take a little more heat. Gaming @ 52°C with a pretty low fan speed allows for some wiggle room.

I went ahead and under clocked it to 722mhz from 742mhz. The Witcher 2 now stutters at settings that my 460 was able to handle just fine, but I was able to play for about an hour and I had no freezes. But again, the frame rate was pretty bleh, when it was smooth it wasn't much better than the 460, and in addition stuttered a lot. When I had the clock at the default, sure the game ran for about 5 minutes before freezing, but it ran very smoothly. So no, I don't wanna keep the core clock that low if I can help it.

One thing I noticed, though, was that according to HWMonitor, the card uses 0.91V when my computer shuts down the monitors (I don't use screen savers, I just have the screens turn off). And on the desktop and in game sits at the max 1.02V. ... I think I may try experimenting and researching on this.
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:05 PM   #6802
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Last night I tried under clocking to 722mhz from default 742mhz. It didn't crash for the 50 minutes or so I played with it, but my frame rate became jittery in Witcher 2, including strange stutters in combat. Also trying out Mirror's Edge there was bad performance over all and some severe drops in frame, probably due to asset loading.

Also, I learned that the strange glitches from Crysis 2 are known to occur on the one particular level I was on... So yeah, pretty much convinced that the first card was in working condition from the start.

So, this morning I found an old 200GB 7200rpm drive. Unplugged my C:\ drive, a 64gb SATAIII SSD, and put this one instead and installed Win7 onto it. After some updates I ran Witcher 2 and it ran great and didn't crash in the 30 minutes or so I played of it.

So, I decided that someone deep down in the inner workings of my OS were gummed up. Problems with DirectX. Problems with drivers. Problems all around. I've installed a few too many strange utilities to call the system inherently reliable. So I made a system image of my C:\ drive and formatted it. Now I'm on a fresh new OS and Witcher 2 ran just fine with stock clock, voltage, and my CPU overclocked to my usual 3.52Ghz. But in Witcher 2 I did notice some slow-down in combat... that may be a game-only issue. I'll play some other games to test the system, but I think I may be in the clear now.

Card runs pretty cool, as well. Using some special settings I can keep the card pretty quiet and cool, hovering around 52°C during Witcher 2. Maxing at around 56°C, and idling at 41°C.


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Old 06-17-2011, 10:51 PM   #6804
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Quite... But hey, a smoking fast PC is good for more than just games. A snappy, nothing-can-slow-it-down PC is a pleasure to use. Oh, but let me say that SSDs are worth every penny even at their current prices. Going back to having the OS installed on a regular 7200RPM HDD was terrible.


Oh, and about my card. I turned up the VCore just a little bit and "underclocked" it just down to 728MHz, just 14MHz lower than the default settings. And so far I've realized I haven't had a freeze with a lower clock... But I'm still skeptical, I'll be trying a bunch of games in the coming days to make sure this sucker stays stable.


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Old 06-18-2011, 04:06 AM   #6805
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Awesome.

In good news, it looks like yard and maintenance work is flourishing with this wonderful weather which means more $$$ coming in.

It's so beautiful out here now in the mid 70's outside I might even go for a nice all-day trek. It just rained and washed away all the pollen. I seriously thought the snow would never quit last month.

I may have inherited another XBOX360 carcass.


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Old 06-18-2011, 01:56 PM   #6806
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Huh. Play Crysis 2 for three hours, not a single stuttering frame. Play NFS Hot Pursuit; a game that causes my card to run just 2°C above idle, and leave it paused causes it to freeze.

Cranked up the VCore another notch to V1.05 and have it at 728MHz. I really believe I'm just suffering from freezes that most people would experience when overclocking their cards. How it's happening with default settings is the only thing that is strange here.


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Old 06-25-2011, 10:45 AM   #6807
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Old 06-26-2011, 01:37 PM   #6808
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Got another 'ffing card. And hey, guess what. It works!


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Witcher 2 and Crysis 2 look good with max settings at 60fps :V


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Old 06-30-2011, 10:37 PM   #6809
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I'm jealou- oh wait I have one too. *brofist*


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Old 07-01-2011, 03:03 AM   #6810
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Old 07-01-2011, 03:07 AM   #6811
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Old 07-01-2011, 06:40 AM   #6812
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Today I saw Big D and the Kids Table live twice in one day. Went to Warped Tour (and now I'm pissed I went, you'll see why) and waited around 9 hours to see them play. Originally went for both them and Less Than Jake, but LTJ was supposed to play at noon, and due to traffic and being late, went on at 6. The exact same time that Big D was going on. So I decided to head to Big D because I enjoy them more than LTJ, and I was not disappointed. They were fantastic live. They then said afterwards they were going to play a longer show at midnight at "The Dive Bar." Game f***ing on.

Fast forward to about 10:30, I get to the bar, head on in, and a band is playing, so I just sit down and listen. They finish up, next band starts setting up, is about to play. I turn around, and see who else but Dave McWane, the lead singer and mastermind of Big D. He was super nice, and just talked with me for like 10 minutes over a can of Pabst, their beer of choice.

Their show at The Dive Bar was far and away the single greatest show I've ever been to. Maybe like 50 people in a small room, no security, and a super nice band that encouraged their audience to participate. I sang face-by-face with Dave McWane. I'm pretty sure that means my life from this point on is now meaningless. Then after they're done they just hung out and took pictures and talked with everyone.



Myself and Dave McWane. Note my "hur dur" starstruck face/awkward timing.



This time with no "hur dur" face for me but blurry laughing Dave.

In addition, I spent like 30-40 minutes just hanging at Big D's merch booth, while waiting for their guy to see if they had a shirt big enough for me in their bus. As he goes, their trumpet player Chris just said to kick back under their tent, and we talked the whole time. Since they didn't have a shirt in my size, I actually bought the 3 CD's of theirs that I listen to all the time, but never actually paid for, as well as their brand new cd that doesn't come out until July 5.



Myself and the aforementioned trumpet player Chris.






All my CDs.

All in all, an absolutely amazing day, even if I did get absolutely ****ed over by Warped Tour compared to The Dive Bar show.

Now to go pass out because I work tomorrow from 1-9PM. I foresee much caffeine in my future.


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Old 07-06-2011, 10:52 AM   #6815
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I haven't really kept up with Gaga, but that is a hilarious cover.
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She's so cute, IG!

I thought the Gaga cover was a pretend cover when it came out. I still believe it should have been.

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Finally fixed my compy issues. My GTX460 would have glitches when booting sometimes, so I tested that card on another computer and got no glitches. So I decided it was the mobo. Turns out I was right.

Got this.
GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 AMD 970 Motherboard


Even has AM3+ socket support, so I'll be able to keep this mobo to upgrade to the next level of AMD CPUs when they arrive (if I want to, my 1090T is still pretty awesome).

Played a bunch of Shogun 2 again. Went through some Magicka. Running 60FPS with max settings in DiRT 3.

Oh, and speaking about DiRT 3, my Steam Summer sale bag:

(Got four copies, actually)


(Got a copy for my brother, too)


(Runs really smooth, actually)


(Kinda regretting this one...)


(Never played Hitman before)


(Yep...)


(Gifted to two people)


(Shotguns are fun and effective!)


(Haven't tried yet, but I imagine I'll enjoy it)


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Thanks TiE and Bongo
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Wooo!!!

Got a new Dell U2711 for a bargain from a local guy with no taxes or shipping. Met him at the bank, transferred over the cash and brought it home with me. It has a single stuck (or maybe dead?) pixel in the top right corner but it's out of the way and at the usual distance I view the screen from I can hardly make it out when placed against a solid color. So I'll just let it go for now. Something I did point out to my brother after discovering it and playing Dirt 3 was "Hey, you know how good Dirt 3 looked with the combination of higher resolution and amazing colors? Yeah? Did you notice any dead pixel? No? Me neither!"


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Sounds amazing TiE.



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Holy crap that's a blu-ray?? I just assumed it was a DVD rip...
Here is a full 1080p video (1920x1080) video playing. ... This monitor made me watch the last act of Avatar... some amazing explosions in the final battle.

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Here is what the dead pixel looks like (added a very dark red dot). It's in the upper right corner.

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Old 07-21-2011, 06:08 AM   #6833
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Oh hey this place does still exist :3

So lately I've been making out like a mother****ing bandit.

Got this probably a month or so ago:



Playstation 3 Black Ops Bundle - $300

Best Buy had a coupon where you buy a 160GB PS3 and you got a $100 gift card, and it worked with the Black Ops bundle that cost the exact same. So I bought the Black Ops bundle, and sold the Black Ops for $40.

At the same time, Albertons (grocery store) had a deal going where when you bought $100 in gift cards you got a $20 voucher. So I bought 3 $100 Best Buy gift cards to use on the PS3, and got $60 worth of groceries free. Best Buy also had buy one get one half off new release games, so I picked these up using the gift card:





And since I needed to test my furncy new Blu Ray player that also plays games sometimes, I figured what better way to test it than with one of the best movies ever made:




About a week and a half ago. My Blockbuster got shut down due to leasing issues, which is ****ty. However, I was able to transfer to another store with my store manager that wants to promote me up, so it all works out.

It also all works out because I was able to get this sweet baby as a result of the store closing



Sony Bravia 40" KDL-41v4000 1080p HDTV - $300

Even after you add in a $100 wall mount from Costco, I am one extremely happy panda.


Fast forward to this Sunday. I had to work, but I sent my dad to Toys 'R Us after I found out thanks to deals.woot and CheapAssGamer that they had a coupon that brought Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock guitar bundle down to $14.99. This is what he brought home:



Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock Full Band Bundle - $14.99

He grabbed the first Xbox 360 Warriors of Rock he saw on the shelf, took it up to the register, they scanned it, then scanned the coupon that says does not work on band bundles, and it worked on the ****ing band bundle. I got a new guitar, and my little brother got his own microphone as well as drums, that I have been stealing recently because 5 lane drumming is actually pretty damn fun.


Also these random things:


Sublime With Rome - Yours Truly

This album is so ****ing great to just chill out to. Lovers Rock, PCH, and Take It or Leave It are amazing tracks.



I acquired 1600 MS points for free recently, and used 1200 on Bastion. If you have a 360, I can't recommend this game enough. From the solid isometric Action-RPG gameplay, to the gorgeous visuals, to the narrator (yes that's right, the narrator is a selling point in this game), it just oozes style.

Phew, I think that's everything. I feel a little like TiE :V


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Old 07-21-2011, 04:18 PM   #6835
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I preordered the regular digital edition last night as well.

Wish they would have made it more clear that they were going to take the full amount out of my account right away and not when it launches like every other online preorder I've ever had, but can't do anything about it now.

I can haz early access now? :3


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Old 07-22-2011, 11:16 PM   #6836
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I haven't really kept up with Gaga, but that is a hilarious cover.
I got into her stuff around last summer. I am pretty much caught up now. She's heavily influenced by Bowie, Elton, and Madonna. Which makes a pretty neat combination. Her live stuff keeps getting more interesting...and she does not lip sync! I might be willing to go see a show at this point.
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Old 07-23-2011, 04:15 PM   #6837
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As a friend of mine said, I wish it was customary to spend the last two years of University at community college D:

Oh well. Still beyond excited for that game.

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Old 08-02-2011, 08:24 PM   #6838
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So my dad is getting made redundant, and he's already got another job in line, so we plan to enjoy ourselves (he gets £40,000)

i'm getting:

Sony KDL32CX523BU 32-inch Widescreen Full HD 1080p with Freeview HD.
Goodbye, bloody decade old CRT TV. The TV picture above, I don't think is the TV i'm getting, however. But i'll leave it there, as a "placeholder" :P

Xbox 360 250gb Slim Console.

Games for Xbox 360 I'm getting:
Left 4 Dead 2
Gears of War 2 GotY Edition
Dragon Age: Origins Ultimate Edition
Dragon Age 2
Mass Effect
Mass Effect 2
Halo: Reach
Halo: Combat Evolved - Anniversary
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix -Cause I just NEED a Potter game, for my fanboy mind :P.
Batman: Arkham City
Fifa 12
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Assassin's Creed: Revelations.


I'm also having a Room Redecoration, getting this bad boy when it's released:


I probably sound spoilt now ^^


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Finally. After many, many long years, I have an up to date computer.









Antec Nine Hundred Two v3 Case
ASrock P67 Extreme 4 Mobo
Intel i5-2500k CPU
8GB G.SKILL DDR3 RAM
Alongside my 9800GT, Corsair 650TX PSU, and generic SATA II HDD.

Upgraded from an AMD Athlon 64 3700+ (single core ;_; ), generic 1.76GB DDR1 RAM, generic mini-ATX mobo and case (it was a Compaq desktop my family bought in 2005)

Still need to replace my Video Card/Hard Drive but considering what I had been using before, sweet zombie jesus.


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Old 08-04-2011, 11:38 AM   #6840
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Finally. After many, many long years, I have an up to date computer.

Antec Nine Hundred Two v3 Case
ASrock P67 Extreme 4 Mobo
Intel i5-2500k CPU
8GB G.SKILL DDR3 RAM
Alongside my 9800GT, Corsair 650TX PSU, and generic SATA II HDD.

Upgraded from an AMD Athlon 64 3700+ (single core ;_; ), generic 1.76GB DDR1 RAM, generic mini-ATX mobo and case (it was a Compaq desktop my family bought in 2005)

Still need to replace my Video Card/Hard Drive but considering what I had been using before, sweet zombie jesus.
Nice one, that 2500k is a beast of a processor


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