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Old 01-11-2012, 06:41 AM   #1
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G.I. Joe VS The Expendables

Well I first talked about this a year ago, but I didn't go anywhere with it.

Of course you all know by now I was a HUGE fan of G.I. Joe comics and action figures during the 80's and early 90's. Of course I watched the animated TV show, but I was way WAY more into the Marvel Comics that fleshed out the characters and had mature adult story arcs making the characters more personable and believable at the same time.

Last year a G.I. Joe movie came out, and I was very VERY skeptical about the whole thing. Too much CGI, bad one liners, Channing Tatum, Marlon Wayans, and my favorite played out cliche of all...the token black lycra costume which has been in gross overuse since 1999.


These costumes suck, and they are stupid too! It looks like they were borrowed off of 2000's X-MEN. Hated those costumes too...


This looks more like G.I. Joe to me...

However....

I loved Stephen Sommers' approach of making it more of an homage to James Bond, and keeping the plot in line with the comics rather than the animated series. Also, Joseph Gordon-Levitt really sold me as the best Cobra Commander ever. Also the movie did not take itself too seriously...thank goodness.

I first got the idea for a kick ass G.I. Joe movie when I first saw Predator back in 1987. Enter a team of muscle headed special forces type guys. Drop them into the woods with their bag of tricks. Watch them swat terrorists off like flies, only to watch them killed off like livestock by a mysterious alien being. I LOVED it! But lets face it... Arnold's team was the best film version of G.I. Joe at the time...had G.I. Joe been made for an adult audience.

2010 longtime favorite muscle head Stallone manages to put together almost all of the original egg heads from the 1980's together on one screen. I would not have cared if it sucked monkey, I was there just to see all of the egg heads on screen at the same time. What I got was the movie I had hoped for!
Stallone leads a hard nosed group of tattooed Harley riding mercenaries comprised of mostly ex special forces types who are faced with challenge of saving a small country vs getting paid. Surprisingly, Jason Statham and Stallone have a good chemistry! What I expected was a lot of former egg heads trying to steal scenes from each other, but they actually complemented each other well. Jet Li wound up being the comic relief, and Eric Roberts played a great villain as a fallen FBI agent turned drug lord. Of course there is no shortage of big explosions, graphic violence, and all around ass kicking. Also it is set to a fantastic score of classic rock n' roll! I left the theater singing Thin Lizzy's "Boys are Back In Town" with new meaning.
Also, sometimes I forget as we all band together to make fun of Stallone for his bone head speech and his steroid induced shortcomings, we forget that he CAN write. He wrote Rocky after all. So him writing and directing this movie was second nature to him.

Now I am excited that there is sequels planned for both movies!

G.I. Joe: Retaliation set for June of this year.

Not excited about Dwayne The Rock Johnson as Roadblock, but as much as I hate to admit it, he DOES fit the part. Also, it is not being directed by Sommers, however, this one sports a darker plot direction, and also Bruce Willis (one of my favorite action heroes of all time) is in it! Basically the plot picks up where the first movie left off.

spoiler:
Zartan is in the White House disguised as The President, making it to frame G.I. Joe for treason, and open the back door for Cobra.


Then in August, we have Expendables 2

Basic plot from IMBD has the boys getting back together for an easy paycheck, but when one of the boys gets snuffed, they seek revenge.

Good times! After the success of the first one, Mr. Chuck Norris has been able to free himself of doing total gym commercials to show up for this movie. (he previously turned down the first one for which many scoffed at). And Jean-Claude Van Damn has taken time off from doing nothing....to showing up as well. Also during the trailer we see Arnold firing a weapon suggesting that he may have slightly more than a cameo. Oh and also...more Bruce Willis! Can't wait.

So basically, it boils down to this. The Expendables is the G.I. Joe movie that I envisioned. G.I. Joe morphed into more of a futuristic James Bond type movie which is a different approach than I had envisioned but it works. Also, I didn't see no Black Lycra costumes other than Snake Eyes which is also a good thing.

So morale of the story, it took a while, but those films now exist. If you want to see G.I. Joe, watch the original, and the sequel! If you want to see the G.I. Joe adult version, go see Expendables. At heart they are basically the same thing.

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Old 01-11-2012, 06:57 AM   #2
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I'm not very familiar with G.I. Joe (I'm only a bit familiar with the TV series), but I have to say that the Expendables was a great idea to join (almost) all the big action stars of the 80's and 90's on a movie. The sequel has now the great Chuck Norris and Van Damme. Hopefully it turns out all right on the boxoffice so that a third one can be made with Steven Seagal included.



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Old 01-11-2012, 07:28 AM   #3
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I'm not very familiar with G.I. Joe (I'm only a bit familiar with the TV series), but I have to say that the Expendables was a great idea to join (almost) all the big action stars of the 80's and 90's on a movie. The sequel has now the great Chuck Norris and Van Damme. Hopefully it turns out all right on the boxoffice so that a third one can be made with Steven Seagal included.
Yes. Seagal, and Wesley Snipes have to get into the action as of yet. And although I am not a big fan of WWE, I would not mind seeing John Cena in there at some point.
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:44 AM   #4
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:12 AM   #5
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No interest in G.I. Joe really, the first one was garbage and pretty much the only redeeming quality was Rachel Nichols as eye candy and the new one doesn't have her in it. No idea who the new chick is but she's no Rachel Nichols, so I'm out.

The Expendables was a mindless mishmosh of testosterone, held together with a paper-thin plot and stunted acting from steroid-popping action stars of yesteryear. And it absolutely worked on so many different levels, so I'm definitely excited for the sequel.




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Old 01-11-2012, 01:47 PM   #7
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Didn't really like much of what I saw of the trailers for GI Joe, although liked seeing Bruce Willis in the 2nd one's trailer. As to the Expendables it's a great idea, but in the movie I thought it tried to take itself a little seriously instead of being just an action packed lead fest with tons of cheezy one liners

Hopefully Expendables 2 will get back more to it's roots. That being said roots can mean different things, Rambo is a completely different action movie than say Commando so Expendables might be what Sylvester Stallone was going for even though I was hoping for more of Commando.


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Old 01-12-2012, 08:18 PM   #8
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Didn't really like much of what I saw of the trailers for GI Joe, although liked seeing Bruce Willis in the 2nd one's trailer. As to the Expendables it's a great idea, but in the movie I thought it tried to take itself a little seriously instead of being just an action packed lead fest with tons of cheezy one liners

Hopefully Expendables 2 will get back more to it's roots. That being said roots can mean different things, Rambo is a completely different action movie than say Commando so Expendables might be what Sylvester Stallone was going for even though I was hoping for more of Commando.
I should start an 80s action movie thread. I collected most of my favorites. Some have held up good over the years. Some did not and are just rediculous now. Commando is part of the latter. Loved it as a kid, but now I find it amazingly bad.
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Old 01-13-2012, 08:49 PM   #9
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I could have almost taken gi joe if it weren't for those horrible suits. The Expendables I absolutely loved, so Expendables for me easily :P

If they do another GI Joe, they should get Stallone

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I was actually surprised by the GI Joe movie. Sure the suits were kinda wonky but I thought most everything else was enjoyable.

I fell asleep during The Expendables.
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