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Old 11-06-2011, 05:19 AM   #1
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Grim Fandango Stop Motion Animation Project

Dear fellow Grim Fandango fans,

A couple of month ago, I have undertaken a fan-art GF stop motion animation project. My aim is just to do a re-make of the intro cut-scene of the game. However, these 3 little minutes of animation are likely to take a lot of time to deliver: the day-job tends to get in the way, and, as you will see in my production blog, there are actually a lot of moving parts to bring together. The project is in its set-building and puppet-making phase and, realistically, I don't expect the shooting to start before March 2012.

I have already enrolled some talented help from this fine GF fan base, and will certainly solicit this fine community for help and feed-back.







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Old 11-06-2011, 03:34 PM   #2
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AWESOME. Please do it!
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Old 11-06-2011, 04:24 PM   #3
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Great idea and work so far, I am eager to see more. Doesn't matter how long it takes, this gonna be awesome =D


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Old 11-27-2011, 09:16 AM   #4
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Thanks for your encouragements

Thanks for your kind words N3mo and Sallim.

The project is making some slow, but steady project. Still in the Set building and puppet making phase. It takes time to rebuild all these props but this is an immensely satisfying hobby!







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Old 11-28-2011, 03:12 PM   #5
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The props look very good and stylish, I guess they will be painted at some point?
You need to put a hamster in the seat and take a picture


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Old 11-28-2011, 10:52 PM   #6
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Yes, these props are "bare-bones". The seats will be padded, and wrapped in fabrics to match as closely as possible the originals. The table will also wrapped and painted.


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Old 12-04-2011, 02:26 AM   #7
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This is going to be excellent! It looks very professional too, do you do this sort of thing for a living?

Thanks for showing behind the scenes with the blog as well, very cool.
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Old 12-04-2011, 06:26 AM   #8
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This is going to be excellent! It looks very professional too, do you do this sort of thing for a living?

Thanks for showing behind the scenes with the blog as well, very cool.
I wish I could do this for a living, and get paid for having so much fun! halas no! this is pure, unpaid and costly, hobby.

Hey cplhenshaw, I am glad you left a note on this thread because I wanted to contact you! I have been using your object viewer (most of Manny's and Celso's shots displayed on my production blog comes from you software). First I wanted to thank you for this little wonder that I am putting at best use!

I wondered if you knew a trick to export dumped 3DO files into .OBJ files which I could use in a 3D editor. I have found, in a thread somewhere, a utility aptly named 3do2obj.exe which is supposed to do the trick, but it does not seem to work as intended in my environment. the .Obj file (or at least its txt content) is apparently generated but in the prompt line and I have no idea how to make it dump its output in a .Obj file, be it of the .txt or the binary kind.

Since you seem to be the expert in this dark science... I thought you would have an idea...


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Old 12-04-2011, 07:39 AM   #9
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I've been working on a tool you can get here
3dostuff.zip

To use it, for example on the file mannysuit.3do, you would type at a command line:

3doobj mannysuit.3do manny.obj

and it should output a manny.obj and a manny.mtl file, ready to go.

Some of the files from the later half of the game however involve some extra rotations which I haven't accounted for, so they might come out garbled.

Alternatively, if you have the program Blender, I've exported most of the characters already, which you can download here and and here.

Let me know how you get on.
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Old 12-04-2011, 08:42 AM   #10
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Thanks! Thanks! Thanks!... it works wonder!

I am now the proud owner of a BoneWagon in all its polygons splendor! Ride-on Baby!

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Old 12-04-2011, 09:06 AM   #11
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Thanks! Thanks! Thanks!... it works wonder!

I am now the proud owner of a BoneWagon in all its polygons splendor! Ride-on Baby!

Raarrrrrrraaaarrrrrr
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Old 12-04-2011, 09:07 AM   #12
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Thank you. Thank you for keeping the game alive through this brilliant project. It always puts a smile on my face to see that other people love this game just as much as me. And I am always surprised by the passion it engenders in its fans.

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Old 12-04-2011, 09:51 AM   #13
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This is gonna be epic!
Feel free to PM me if you need anything related to 2D graphics.


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Old 12-04-2011, 10:06 PM   #14
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About the replacement mouth thing you're doing. Maybe I'm missing something, but won't it be obvious that the mouth is a separate thing apart from the rest of the head? Or do you have a plan to deal with that already?
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Old 12-04-2011, 11:58 PM   #15
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Yes, you are right, the other approach is to have "stick-on" mouth, separate from the jaw-chin part which stays in one part with the rest of the head. But these tend to result in protruding mouth-lips like with Aardman animation studio (Chicken Run, Wallace & Grommit). To stay closer to the model, I wanted to have a more "flat" partially inset in the Jaw... This jaw-replacement technique is used by many recent stop-motion animation (Coraline), but it is harder. I hope I will not regret my choice.


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Old 12-05-2011, 06:27 PM   #16
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Amazing,
Great to see fans thirteen years down the line. Ill be watching this space very carefully :>
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:34 AM   #17
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Amazing,
Great to see fans thirteen years down the line. Ill be watching this space very carefully :>
Thanks Okreano. Talking about watching the space... Guess what Manny's busy doing on this shot...



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Old 12-06-2011, 05:48 PM   #18
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Ahah, he looks so cute


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Old 01-04-2012, 06:10 PM   #19
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I'm astonished by how good this looks! You've obviously poured a lot of effort and talent into this. I can't wait to see how the project will develop.


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Old 01-06-2012, 06:19 PM   #20
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Yes, this takes skill and talent paired with patience and persistence. Big respect. A potential problem is that Tim Burton might steal your idea.
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Old 01-06-2012, 08:17 PM   #21
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Don't sue me, but please steal me!

Thanks you all for your nice words. An happy 2012 to the GF community.

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Yes, this takes skill and talent paired with patience and persistence. Big respect. A potential problem is that Tim Burton might steal your idea.
I think one day, Peter Jackson will wake up and realize that he NEEDS a stop-mo movie in portfolio. That would be a Director worthy of a Grim Fandango big screen adaptation! Right Manny?



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Old 01-07-2012, 06:52 AM   #22
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Have you considered talking about your project at Adventure Gamers? I'm sure your blog would raise a lot of interest there, especially since their forums are far more active than we here.


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Old 01-07-2012, 08:31 AM   #23
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Pixyfrog, I wouldn't worry too much about getting sued. The way I see it, LucasArts is a company whose products we love but still just a company, meaning that the guys on top who are calling the shots are people whose primary concern is turning profit. Financially, GF doesn't mean anything to the company anymore and there are no signs (afaik) that it will, so this can't hurt them. On the other hand, projects like yours are free marketing for the brand. Projects that help keep interest in their old games alive can only positively affect the interest in company's current products. I think as far as you're not making any profit yourself, you're in the clear. A potential problem is that they might sell the rights to Tim Burton.
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Old 01-08-2012, 04:39 AM   #24
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Have you considered talking about your project at Adventure Gamers?
Thanks for the link VampireNaomi. I did not know this site... looks great. Glad to see that GF ended up as the No1 adventure game in their top 100 adventure game of all time! Tempting to drop a post in there to introduce my project but it's just "...your apearance... it's, well, a little intimidating". maybe later, when I have more to show..

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Pixyfrog, I wouldn't worry too much about getting sued. <...> A potential problem is that they might sell the rights to Tim Burton.
Not so worried to be honest, neither about copyright issue (like you, I think this project firmly stand on firmly in "fair use" territory), nor - unfortunately - about Tim Burton revisiting for a 3rd time a stop motion movie with skeletons in it.

Assuming that LucasArt was amenable to grant rights, and that some production house had sufficient influence and resources to seek it, two very big assumptions, I think that someone such as Henry Selick from Laika would have a better motive and claim: They have made a name from themselves with Coraline and would probably be a credible contender to court "the powers that be".


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Guess what Manny's busy doing on this shot...]
I've been looking at that picture off and on since you posted it and finally I'm ready to announce...that I'm giving up. I have absolutely no idea what Manny is supposed to be doing (only that he seems to be enjoying himself maybe a little too much). Spill.
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I've been looking at that picture off and on since you posted it and finally I'm ready to announce...that I'm giving up. I have absolutely no idea what Manny is supposed to be doing (only that he seems to be enjoying himself maybe a little too much). Spill.
He is sticking some stencil on the carpet so as to paint the true-to-original carpet pattern. cplhenshaw won the quizz sometime ago!



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Old 01-22-2012, 05:04 PM   #27
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Haha I love it, pixyfrog! This making off is really enjoyable!


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Old 01-23-2012, 01:53 AM   #28
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This is all beyond impressive, wow.
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:20 AM   #29
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Lip Sync test

Thanks for your support guys. Hey I am testing a mouth replacement set (still a set of 3D model at this stage) for Lip Syncing... Do you find this realistic?

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And here is an update of the set construction... getting there slowly!



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Old 03-26-2012, 03:34 AM   #30
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Thanks for your support guys. Hey I am testing a mouth replacement set (still a set of 3D model at this stage) for Lip Syncing... Do you find this realistic?

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And here is an update of the set construction... getting there slowly!

Wonderful! Keep going! Your work is fantastic.
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