lfnetwork.com mark read register faq members calendar

Thread: Laptop Recomendation
Thread Tools Display Modes
Post a new thread. Add a reply to this thread. Indicate all threads in this forum as read. Subscribe to this forum. RSS feed: this forum RSS feed: all forums
Old 09-30-2012, 10:08 PM   #1
Obi-Wan Bologna
Rookie
 
Obi-Wan Bologna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 185
Laptop Recomendation

Hey guys, figure you guys could help me out.

Gonna get a new laptop soon and was hoping some of you could give me some recommendations. Gonna probably want 6-8g, Blu ray player, good graphics card (doesn't need to be the latest greatest as I will mostly be playing older games like Kotor but might try TOR out) good fast processor. I'm not up to date on all the processors and graphics cards and such. hehe Budget is around 500 or so. Give or a take a hundred either way.


Formerly Obi-Wan Baloney
Obi-Wan Bologna is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-01-2012, 01:33 AM   #2
acdcfanbill
..the wonders I have seen
 
acdcfanbill's Avatar
 
Status: Super Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Random Hell Wholes around the
Posts: 5,698
Imperialist Meatbags Guild Member The Walking Carpets Guild Member LFN Staff Member 10 year veteran! 
I would say something with an nvidia gpu, i believe modern ati gives kotor fits?

acdcfanbill is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-01-2012, 05:05 AM   #3
Q
The one who knocks
 
Q's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: ABQ
Posts: 6,643
Current Game: Mowing down neos with my M60
LF Jester Forum Veteran Helpful! 
A few months ago I was testing an HD 6870 for my buddy and it had no trouble running either KotOR game.

That said, since this is for gaming, I would look into a laptop powered by one of the AMD APUs like an A8-3500M. CPU performance will be mediocre (but not bad), but graphics performance will be terrific for an integrated GPU.


"They should rename the team to the Washington Government Sucks. Put Obama on the helmet. Line the entire walls of the stadium with the actual text of the ACA.
Fix their home team score on the board to the debt clock, they can win every game 17,000,000,000,000 to 24. Losing team gets taxed by the IRS 100%, then droned."
-Toker

Last edited by Q; 10-01-2012 at 05:27 AM.
Q is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-01-2012, 06:48 AM   #4
Darth Avlectus
Your point?
 
Darth Avlectus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Attack on Titan
Posts: 4,255
Current Game: Soul Calibur 5
Check out linus on youtube, or his website us.NCIX.com (or just ncix if you're not in the states). He had some crazy custom laptop or two made. I remember one had a nVidia580 card on it. Clunky-as-hell power brick but it was top notch for gaming and watching hi def movies.

Personally I'd say anything that has core i5 processor WITH a decent graphics card (because truth be told you don't need core i7 if your graphics card is good) and 8 gigs of ram will run just about anything smoothly. I don't know of too many games currently that fully utilize that much ram tbh. I do not know much on the AMD side of things, so I'd go with what Q said. He's never lead me wrong when I don't know.


Nothing shouts disappointment like saving up a sizable chunk of cash over the summer meant for a new machine or something, only to have a $1000 car maintenance hit. It's either this now or have it quadruple in the middle of winter.


"I cant see S***! --YOU GO TO HELL!" --Tourettes guy
Darth Avlectus is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-01-2012, 07:24 AM   #5
Alexrd
Senior Member
 
Alexrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portugal
Posts: 2,161
Current Game: UEFA Euro 2004
Forum Veteran LF Jester 
Where can you get a laptop under $500 with a Blu-ray drive? Only custom made, I guess...



Star Wars: In Concert - Lisbon - Some pictures of the exhibition accompanying the event.
Alexrd is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-01-2012, 08:50 AM   #6
Pho3nix
#rekt
 
Pho3nix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Sweden
Posts: 3,370
Forum Veteran 
You wont get a decent laptop under 800€...

Pho3nix is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-01-2012, 10:49 AM   #7
The Doctor
Retired
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,415
Current Game: Skyrim
Forum Veteran 
In that price range? Hit up Wal-Mart or something for some sales. I've used the Toshiba Satellite series for forever now, and they've never had issues running KotOR. They're far from gaming laptops though, so anything newer or that's currently upcoming will be hit and miss at absolute best.
The Doctor is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-01-2012, 12:50 PM   #8
Obi-Wan Bologna
Rookie
 
Obi-Wan Bologna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 185
I'm well aware that it won't be top-notch on games, I don't play a whole ton of games and if the game is released on 360, that's where my money will lie. Just needs to be decent. It will mostly be for everday use, so the occasional HD video and Blu ray, quick internet, and the occasional game. Budget is really about 600, but obviously the cheaper the better. The Doctor, yes the Toshiba Satellite is one I've been looking at. You say you like them? What do you like the most?


Formerly Obi-Wan Baloney
Obi-Wan Bologna is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-01-2012, 01:57 PM   #9
Alexrd
Senior Member
 
Alexrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portugal
Posts: 2,161
Current Game: UEFA Euro 2004
Forum Veteran LF Jester 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pho3nix View Post
You wont get a decent laptop under 800...
I got a good one for 750.



Star Wars: In Concert - Lisbon - Some pictures of the exhibition accompanying the event.
Alexrd is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-01-2012, 03:51 PM   #10
Darth Avlectus
Your point?
 
Darth Avlectus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Attack on Titan
Posts: 4,255
Current Game: Soul Calibur 5
You ought to expect to spend ~$750USD (or equivalent) at the very least. Probably more like he neighborhood of about twice that.

Seems like if it has an nVidia GeForce GT 620 to 650 graphics card, it should do for what you want. You can make custom orders for something with an i5. Any stronger is unnecessary imo and it adds cost. Plus it's nice to be able to switch from graphics card to onboard processor's graphics--you can't do that with i7. i7 is only really necessary for hyperthreading and programmers on the cutting edge of making stuff where you'd really be better off with a desktop in that regard.

The review of this one has an i7 unfortunately... But it seems okay I guess...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasoneva...ing-powerhouse

Some other article...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/64...ng-power-house



My dad just got one from costco. HP, Core i5 8GB, though I'm not sure what kind of graphics. Multimedia.

I remember was able to run KOTOR on my Sony Vaio 2003 PCG-FRV5, but it REALLY stressed the thing out since it was the most basic ATI radeon graphics card.


"I cant see S***! --YOU GO TO HELL!" --Tourettes guy
Darth Avlectus is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-01-2012, 04:40 PM   #11
Tommycat
>^..^<
 
Tommycat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,578
Current Game: Real Life 1.0(BETA)
Forum Veteran 
You guys are a bit out there. Heck you can find a decent laptop for about $5-600 even at Best Buy. HP and even Dell have some low end laptops that will run TOR and happen to be under the $600 range. The only problem is future proofing.

The reason I would not recommend you get only the laptop that will run what you want now is the future. It may run things fine now, but in the future you will have to upgrade to a new laptop. When someone is getting a laptop I generally recommend that they go with the best they can afford. A desktop, you can upgrade a video card, or processor relatively easily. Laptops generally require a whole bunch more disassembly. And for that kind of flexibility, you would want a "Desktop Replacement" or "Portable Workstation" like a Dell M6600 or some such designed for businesses. Which is generally way over what people want to spend. So get the best you can afford.

Rate these things in order.

Speed
Price
Reliability
Features

Acer makes some fairly decent laptops at a low price, but lack on features and reliability(not saying they aren't good, just that build quality is rather iffy at times)


"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." Thomas Jefferson
Tommycat is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-01-2012, 05:39 PM   #12
Obi-Wan Bologna
Rookie
 
Obi-Wan Bologna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 185
I do think in a few years I will build myself a nice dual-screen gaming/music station desktop, but I'm a student on a budget right now and also don't have the space like I'd want either, so that will have to wait, hence the laptop now. Also, current laptop needs replacing. hehe


Formerly Obi-Wan Baloney
Obi-Wan Bologna is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-01-2012, 06:40 PM   #13
Q
The one who knocks
 
Q's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: ABQ
Posts: 6,643
Current Game: Mowing down neos with my M60
LF Jester Forum Veteran Helpful! 
Check this out. Probably the best deal you're going to see on a decent make with the latest AMD APU like I described. I couldn't find one with a Blu-ray burner, but here's one that you could replace the DVD-RW drive with. Total cost will be ~$615, which is about as cheap as you're going to find for all of the features you want.

Like I said, CPU performance won't be spectacular, but it won't be slow, either, and gaming performance will be way better than anything with Intel graphics.


"They should rename the team to the Washington Government Sucks. Put Obama on the helmet. Line the entire walls of the stadium with the actual text of the ACA.
Fix their home team score on the board to the debt clock, they can win every game 17,000,000,000,000 to 24. Losing team gets taxed by the IRS 100%, then droned."
-Toker
Q is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-02-2012, 02:24 PM   #14
Obi-Wan Bologna
Rookie
 
Obi-Wan Bologna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 185
Any opinions on this one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toshiba-Sate...item2570fba8ed


Formerly Obi-Wan Baloney
Obi-Wan Bologna is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-02-2012, 03:24 PM   #15
Tommycat
>^..^<
 
Tommycat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,578
Current Game: Real Life 1.0(BETA)
Forum Veteran 
Looks like a good deal. I've never had a problem with Toshiba laptops, and refurbished systems are 100% tested. So you may have some exterior wear and tear, but all in all have a good system for not a lot of money.


"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." Thomas Jefferson
Tommycat is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-02-2012, 10:17 PM   #16
Obi-Wan Bologna
Rookie
 
Obi-Wan Bologna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 185
So what's the hugest difference between an AMD A6, A8, and A10


Formerly Obi-Wan Baloney
Obi-Wan Bologna is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-03-2012, 02:57 AM   #17
Q
The one who knocks
 
Q's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: ABQ
Posts: 6,643
Current Game: Mowing down neos with my M60
LF Jester Forum Veteran Helpful! 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ile_Processors


"They should rename the team to the Washington Government Sucks. Put Obama on the helmet. Line the entire walls of the stadium with the actual text of the ACA.
Fix their home team score on the board to the debt clock, they can win every game 17,000,000,000,000 to 24. Losing team gets taxed by the IRS 100%, then droned."
-Toker
Q is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-03-2012, 11:33 AM   #18
Tommycat
>^..^<
 
Tommycat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,578
Current Game: Real Life 1.0(BETA)
Forum Veteran 
Lot of technical jargon on that page.

Translation for the non EE people: Not a lot of noticeable difference, but on benchmarks they see a mild improvement. For a hardcore gamer, you might see a performance increase, but just playing older games, not a lot. problem is you are limited by HDD speeds for the most part. So the processor won't be a huge thing for you.


"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." Thomas Jefferson
Tommycat is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-03-2012, 11:47 AM   #19
Q
The one who knocks
 
Q's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: ABQ
Posts: 6,643
Current Game: Mowing down neos with my M60
LF Jester Forum Veteran Helpful! 
The main difference is in the on-board GPUs. Want the best gaming performance? Get a laptop with an A10-4600M. You won't be giving up much of anything in CPU performance and you're getting the equivalent of a decent discrete graphics card thrown in for free.


"They should rename the team to the Washington Government Sucks. Put Obama on the helmet. Line the entire walls of the stadium with the actual text of the ACA.
Fix their home team score on the board to the debt clock, they can win every game 17,000,000,000,000 to 24. Losing team gets taxed by the IRS 100%, then droned."
-Toker
Q is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-05-2012, 07:55 PM   #20
Obi-Wan Bologna
Rookie
 
Obi-Wan Bologna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 185
Ended getting this one:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...821&CatId=4935

Any thoughts on it?


Formerly Obi-Wan Baloney
Obi-Wan Bologna is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-05-2012, 09:58 PM   #21
Darth Avlectus
Your point?
 
Darth Avlectus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Attack on Titan
Posts: 4,255
Current Game: Soul Calibur 5
While I don't know much on the AMD (guess it's time I started finding out though my plans for a new machine are on hold for the foreseeable future) but everything else looks like it checks out okay more or less. Can't really comment on something I'm not using unfortunately. Hopefully it holds. Do let us know how well it works for you.


"I cant see S***! --YOU GO TO HELL!" --Tourettes guy
Darth Avlectus is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-06-2012, 12:38 AM   #22
Q
The one who knocks
 
Q's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: ABQ
Posts: 6,643
Current Game: Mowing down neos with my M60
LF Jester Forum Veteran Helpful! 
I would've gotten the Lenovo that I linked to, mostly because I consider USB 3.0 to be a must-have.

Otherwise that Gateway will be fine.


"They should rename the team to the Washington Government Sucks. Put Obama on the helmet. Line the entire walls of the stadium with the actual text of the ACA.
Fix their home team score on the board to the debt clock, they can win every game 17,000,000,000,000 to 24. Losing team gets taxed by the IRS 100%, then droned."
-Toker
Q is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-06-2012, 05:44 PM   #23
Obi-Wan Bologna
Rookie
 
Obi-Wan Bologna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by Q View Post
I would've gotten the Lenovo that I linked to, mostly because I consider USB 3.0 to be a must-have.

Otherwise that Gateway will be fine.
Yeah, a few sacrifices were made. Unfortunately, it will be a bit slow putting all of my junk on it because of the USB 2.0, but I rarely use the usb ports, other than for my music and such. How much slower is a 2.0 compared to the 3.0 anyway?

Edit: Crap, just looked it up and it does make a big difference, it's 10 times faster. Oh well. lol


Formerly Obi-Wan Baloney
Obi-Wan Bologna is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-06-2012, 05:55 PM   #24
Q
The one who knocks
 
Q's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: ABQ
Posts: 6,643
Current Game: Mowing down neos with my M60
LF Jester Forum Veteran Helpful! 
Has it shipped yet? You could cancel the order if it hasn't. Tigerdirect is very good about that sort of thing.

Yeah, USB 3.0 will allow you to get the full transfer speed from an external drive as long as it's USB 3.0 as well, among other things.


"They should rename the team to the Washington Government Sucks. Put Obama on the helmet. Line the entire walls of the stadium with the actual text of the ACA.
Fix their home team score on the board to the debt clock, they can win every game 17,000,000,000,000 to 24. Losing team gets taxed by the IRS 100%, then droned."
-Toker

Last edited by Q; 10-06-2012 at 06:04 PM.
Q is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-06-2012, 06:11 PM   #25
Obi-Wan Bologna
Rookie
 
Obi-Wan Bologna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by Q View Post
Has it shipped yet? You could cancel the order if it hasn't. Tigerdirect is very good about that sort of thing.

Yeah, USB 3.0 will allow you to get the full transfer speed from an external drive as long as it's USB 3.0 as well, among other things.
No, it hasn't shipped yet, but I think I will stick with the Gateway. I like everything about it except the no 3.0 like you said. I don't think I have any 3.0 devices anyway. lol


Formerly Obi-Wan Baloney
Obi-Wan Bologna is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-06-2012, 07:21 PM   #26
Q
The one who knocks
 
Q's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: ABQ
Posts: 6,643
Current Game: Mowing down neos with my M60
LF Jester Forum Veteran Helpful! 
It'll be fine.

It definitely has the GPU you want. You'll even be able to play modern games on it at decent settings, so it's a bargain at $480.


"They should rename the team to the Washington Government Sucks. Put Obama on the helmet. Line the entire walls of the stadium with the actual text of the ACA.
Fix their home team score on the board to the debt clock, they can win every game 17,000,000,000,000 to 24. Losing team gets taxed by the IRS 100%, then droned."
-Toker
Q is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 10-06-2012, 09:10 PM   #27
Obi-Wan Bologna
Rookie
 
Obi-Wan Bologna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 185
Quote:
Originally Posted by Q View Post
It'll be fine.

It definitely has the GPU you want. You'll even be able to play modern games on it at decent settings, so it's a bargain at $480.
Yeah, exactly what I was thinking and going for. Thanks for all the help guys!


Formerly Obi-Wan Baloney
Obi-Wan Bologna is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Post a new thread. Add a reply to this thread. Indicate all threads in this forum as read. Subscribe to this forum. RSS feed: this forum RSS feed: all forums
Go Back   LucasForums > Network > Knights of the Old Republic > Community > Ahto Spaceport Cantina > Laptop Recomendation

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:57 AM.

LFNetwork, LLC ©2002-2011 - All rights reserved.
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.