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Old 12-25-2012, 11:26 PM   #641
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was just wondering I know there is an xp bonus for full codex entries on the planets you visit.

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Old 01-05-2013, 03:44 PM   #642
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Am putting this here because I don't know if I can become a member to the Walking Carpets website even tho I am not a member of the WC guild so I will ask this here.


On the Walking Carpets website you guys have been adding what to do with certain classes as for how to use the skill tree and what items are best and such things.

On the Gunslinger one by Mav he mentions 2 BIS Relics in Dread Guard Relic of Boundless Ages and Dread Guard Relic of Dark Radiance as Best In Slot Relics.

Now I have been told repeatedly you want to boost your main stat as high as possible as it gives bonuses to your other stats so why wouldn't the Matrix Cube that gives you 88 Cunning be considerd as a BIS Relic for the Gunslinger?

And I just want to say I appreciate all the things you guys do on that website as it has helped me level my other toons to be the best they can be.


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Old 01-05-2013, 03:59 PM   #643
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They just had me go away from the Matrix cube on my sawbones...Really hard to get rid of that cunning. They way they told it to me though, if I clicky the clicky relic the power will more than offset the loss of cunning, however if I don't clicky, I was better off with the matrix cube. Only did the first boss in HM EC since getting the clicky relic, but it seem to really boost the amount of my heals and that meant I was healing less so my energy was pretty close to 50% the entire fight and I had full energy when Toth and Zorn died. I even manged to do some dps there. Really would have love to finish the ops to see if that just wasn't a fluke, but lag issues on the tank caused us to give up.


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that brings me to another question. What do you mean by clicky? I just have the relics in the relic slot do you keep some on a quickbar and interchange them during fights?

I bought both relics he recommended I just haven't aug'ed them yet, I mean I had almost 950 daily comms so I figured I miight as well upgrade right? L

With the matrix cube aug'ed I have like 96 cunning from it alone.


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Old 01-05-2013, 08:14 PM   #645
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that brings me to another question. What do you mean by clicky? I just have the relics in the relic slot do you keep some on a quickbar and interchange them during fights?

I bought both relics he recommended I just haven't aug'ed them yet, I mean I had almost 950 daily comms so I figured I miight as well upgrade right? L

With the matrix cube aug'ed I have like 96 cunning from it alone.
One should be passive (equip and forget), the other will have some stats that are passive, but for the full benefit, you will have to equiped it, but also put it on you quickbar and click on it every two mins. So you must activate it for it to be better than you Martix cube.


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does it matter which is passive, slotwise I mean I can choose either or to be the clicky relic?

I guess what I mean is you have a top slot and a bottom slot. I have the matrix cube in the top slot and another one in the bottom slot, If I want the bottom one to be the clicky one do I have to move it to the top slot or does it matter?


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The Dread Guard Relic of Boundless Ages is the clicky one... it give 64 Endurance 47 Power passively, but another 350 power when you click it.

Dread Guard Relic of Dark Radiance is passive.

So put Dread Guard Relic of Boundless Ages on quickbar and click it. I have to learn to click it too. Upgrade my healer and knight with Dread Guard Relics too.


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sweet so it doesn't matter which slot it is just which one you put on the quickbar, once I aug both of those I will add them.

Thanks Mim I know I have other questions too I just can't think of them right off the bat.

The Shadowlands server I don't think is quite as up to par as Harbinger is, it has been said only 3 groups have ever completed Nightmare Mode on anything and alot of them don't even try Hard mode ops.

I left my guild simply because they did ops during the week when I was at work and when I was available for HMOps it seemed like we would get to the first boss 3 wipse and then people had other things to do. I love the people in the guild as they were really great and treated you good but I needed something more akin to me progressing as ooposed to standing still and being ok with it.

I have my friend convinced that if paid transfers come along to try to transfer to the Harbinger and see if we could join up. He was ready to right away until he realized it was a different server.

Anyways thanks again


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Am putting this here because I don't know if I can become a member to the Walking Carpets website even tho I am not a member of the WC guild so I will ask this here.


On the Walking Carpets website you guys have been adding what to do with certain classes as for how to use the skill tree and what items are best and such things.

On the Gunslinger one by Mav he mentions 2 BIS Relics in Dread Guard Relic of Boundless Ages and Dread Guard Relic of Dark Radiance as Best In Slot Relics.

Now I have been told repeatedly you want to boost your main stat as high as possible as it gives bonuses to your other stats so why wouldn't the Matrix Cube that gives you 88 Cunning be considerd as a BIS Relic for the Gunslinger?

And I just want to say I appreciate all the things you guys do on that website as it has helped me level my other toons to be the best they can be.
Sorry, I really don't browse the LFN forums as much as I probably should so I didn't see this sooner. Also as far as being able to post on the forums at thewalkingcarpets.com, if you create an enjin account, you should be able to post in the non-member areas, which are the ones you can see as a guest anyway, I'll have to get confirmation on that later.

Now to answer your specific question regarding the BiS relics for the Gunslinger, first lets clear up that initial misinformation that is confusing you.

Now, generally speaking what you heard about focusing on increasing your main stat as much as possible is for the most part correct. However it is important to know what exactly our main stat gives us. 1 point in Cunning is equal to .2 points of bonus damage and a very marginal increase in Critical Chance. So to put this in practical terms, every 100 points of Cunning translate to our attacks hitting for approximately 20 more damage. Of our secondary stats, 1 point of Power equates to a .24 bonus damage increase, so every 100 points in Power is equal to 24 more damage on average.

So now you'd think, well I should be stacking Power instead of Cunning, well that's not exactly true either. Pretty much all Gunslinger specs will take the talent points that increase our Cunning by 9%, so basically every 100 points in Cunning you add, you actually get 109 points. Now in this example the 100 points in Power still add more straight bonus damage than the resultant 109 points in Cunning, but what's not factored in is the bonus Critical chance from the Cunning.

So long story short it is all about what your choices are and which piece of gear gives you the best overall outcome. So let's take a look at mods first. Now if you were to pick the highest Cunning mods, you would pick up the Advanced Artful Mod 27A, they give 72 Cunning and 13 Power, the other choice is the Advanced Artful Mod 27, which gives you 56 Cunning and 44 Power. Taking what we know, lets do basic math and figure out what bonus to damage each mod gives us...

Artful 27A = (72*.2)+(13*.24) = 17.52
Artful 27 = (56*.2)+(44*.24) = 21.76

As you can see, trading 16 points in Cunning for 31 points in Power, benefits us greatly, so stacking Cunning isn't always the right choice. Again not factored in is the marginal increase in Critical Chance from Cunning, but that increase will not compensate for a 4 point damage spread.

Anyway, as is so often the case with me, none of this really applies that much to the whole topic of the relics, and I've gotten very far from that topic. So back to the relics.

As far as the Dread Guard Relic of Dark Radiance goes, there are very lengthy discussions and number crunchers all over the official SWTOR forums and elsewhere that state that the DPS gain from the damage proc relics is greater than the Matrix Cube by far, and the static Power increase from the PvP Relics as well. As for why the Dark Radiance variation of Proc relics, well that would be because it uses your Tech crit chance to determine how often it crits, the other procs use different crit chances, some use Force crit, which obviously as Gunslingers we don't have.

Now as for the Dread Guard Relic of Boundless Ages vs. the Matrix Cube, again we can defeat that debate with some simple math...

For arguments sake lets say the fight lasts 5 minutes, or 300 seconds

The Matrix Cube gives us 88 Cunning flat, at all times...

88*.2 = 17.6 * 300 seconds = 5280 over 5 minutes

Dread Guard Relic of Boundless Ages gives us a static 47 point increase to Power, and on-use increase of 350 power for... 20 seconds I think... it's 20 or 30, let's just say 20 to play it safe, and with a 2 minute cooldown we can use the relic twice over a 5 minute period

47*.24 = 11.28 * 300 seconds = 3384 over 5 minutes however, lets add in the on-use bonus....

350*.24 = 84 * 20 seconds * 2 uses = 3360 + 3384 from static power = 6744 over 5 minutes

So, Matrix Cube 5280, DG Boundless Ages, 6744.


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Old 01-07-2013, 03:17 PM   #650
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so the math part and equations kinda flew right over my head there Mav but I do understnad what you are saying as to why one might be better than the other. As I told Mim I had no idea you could put one in your quickbar and click it every 2 minutes.

I do read the website alot to find out what I should be doing differently and tho my skill tree looks slightly different than the one you posted it is the one that works for me and the rotation is pretty much what I use as well.

I thank you for the info you have posted there as well as here and already bought both relics and made the kits to aug them and can't wait to try them out.

Thanks again


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About gear. I don't know if there's any overlap or not between these categories, but my question is: which kinds of gear are the best? Say, you have a Level 50 or whatever. I mean, I know artifact is the best quality, but where are the best artifacts?

1. Vendors
2. Craftable
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4. Something else I'm not thinking of.
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Any gear with modification slots are the best since you can then customise it with the appropriate armouring, mods and enhancements as well as augments to get the stats you need.

Doesn't matter where they come from, just as long as they have the slots to put modification into, though your best bet for the best modifications to put in there come from end game content such as hard mode flashpoints and operations.

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Yeah, that's the other thing. Customizable gear all seem to have the same base stats, it's just their looks that are different? Like I have an Esseles tunic and got another armor later on with better modifications. After taking the mods out of each, they had the same stats. Same thing with two different custom lightsabers.
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Yup, in essence all customizable gear has the same base stats (adjusted for light/medium/heavy armor), the trick is to get better mods to put in there. And the best mods are found through Flashpoints/Operations/Dailies.

Also, Mav, don't worry, the math wasn't for nothing, I got it. Was already aiming for more Power instead of Aim for my Merc, now I know exactly why.


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Old 01-08-2013, 04:43 PM   #655
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granted there is a bonus for having 3/5 and 4/5 Rakata Tionese or Columni gear. If you have 3 or 4 of any of those you get a bonus to certain stats depending on what class you are.

The bonuses are for Head Chest Legs Gloves and Feet if I'm not mistaken.

That is why they are always saying putting mods in Rakata shells.

Granted the Tionese gear is pretty hideous for a trooper and for a smuggler I hope you like capes.


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Campaign armor has the set bonus built into them instead of the shells, buy it and you can wear what you want.


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I've actually not been buying equipment from vendors (with credits anyway). My gear and mods come from drops and commendations. Seems to do me fine. Also, I don't want to go to great lengths to get myself completely geared up with everything as good as possible, spending a ton of credits to do so, only to have to do the same thing in another couple of levels.

I have 100k credits at Lvl 28, and really the only things I spend them on are medpacs, stims, and crew skill missions xD

Although I will splurge if there's a good item that takes up a slot I don't already have something in. (Like when I bought relics from the LS vendor)
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Vendors usually sell nothing anyway. Speciality vendors on planets may have, but I generally forget them and when returning already got better stuff.

The most money investment is crew skills, legacy upgrades (which are powerful though), more inventory space (I don't want to go to vendors all the time) and if you hit the GTN (in my case, for items to use in artifice crafting, can get expensive pretty quick).
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I just reached Legacy Level 1 at level 25 or so. o_O Still have a while to go lol. But I've unlocked Punch wooooohoooooo -__-

I actually don't know too much about legacy upgrades or whatnot.

Yeah, I can see how getting crafting materials would be expensive quick. I'm f2p (at least for now, that may change), so I only get one skill slot. I chose slicing, so I don't have any crafting to buy things for or gathering things to sell.

What's the point of crafting anyway? Flashpoint drops end up being better than anything craftable, or so I'm told, and it's a grind and expensive to get good at it. Might as well just buy crafted stuff off the GTN...less of a grind that way. xD I don't even bother with that. Like I said, commendations and drops have done me well.
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No going to set here and way crafting isn't a grind, but I will say I can craft implants and medpacs on my main for alts better than anything that will drop in flashpoints while leveling. However, to get to that point it was a grind. I had to craft an RE over and over to go from greens, to blues to purples.

If I only had one slot, leveling I think slicing would be my pick too. Very easy credit with slicing. However, after 50 and augmented, then biochem would be my pick for reuseable, medpacs, stims and adrenals. However, as long people need augments, they need mats, so slicing will continue to make credits.


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Yeah, I picked slicing too when F2P, there really is no other choice if you just have 1 slot.

With sub I added artifice and treasure hunting.
Missions from slicing sell good on gtn, as well as purples from hunting. Artifice has been for myself so far. Although now I hope at 400/lvl 50 I can make some stuff to sell. Here's to hoping it will 0_o
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I've actually been pretty bad at using my crew skills, apparently your supposed to spend all your time using your crew to do the quests and such and build up your level, and I always forgot spending more time on the mission, then when I find something to use my crew skill my level is always too low. haha


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I am really new for MMO game, and I am thinking that SWTOR might be a good choice for me because I love the movie. Then, I read some review about the game. Most people complaints about it. So, I am not sure whether I should play this game.

Can anyone here tell me frankly is it fun or not?

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I am really new for MMO game, and I am thinking that SWTOR might be a good choice for me because I love the movie. Then, I read some review about the game. Most people complaints about it. So, I am not sure whether I should play this game.

Can anyone here tell me frankly is it fun or not?

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The game is free to play, just download it and try it for yourself, you'll figure out if it's fun from first-hand experience.

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I am really new for MMO game, and I am thinking that SWTOR might be a good choice for me because I love the movie. Then, I read some review about the game. Most people complaints about it. So, I am not sure whether I should play this game.

Can anyone here tell me frankly is it fun or not?

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I think you should just find out by yourself.

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So me and my buddy got our Sith Sorcerer and Maurader up to lvl 50 which gives me 2 50's now and currently trying to get them geared.

Playing as a healer this time I realize they don't get a lot of love when they save the day and most of the blame when they wipe even tho it would help if the tank and dps would heal themselves between fights instead of just running from fight to fight. It has helped me more appreciate my healer when I am my dps and try to help out whenever I can.

But my question is next we both want to be Bounty Hunters and Troopers. If we both play a Bounty Hunter or Trooper at the same time and are leveling together do we have to do the class missions twice?

Like when we get to the green door and he goes in first so he owns the story do we then have to go back in the green door with me going first to own the story once we finish his?


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Everyone complains about video games nowadays. It's all waah, waah, waah first world problems
True, but MMO players seem to take it to a all new level. Compine that with BioWare fans seem to be very vocal and the waah about TOR sounds more like

WAAH!

I can only speak from personal experience. There are bug, but the game has been a total blast to me personally and I was one of the those that waah before it came out because I wanted KotOR 3 and not a MMO.

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But my question is next we both want to be Bounty Hunters and Troopers. If we both play a Bounty Hunter or Trooper at the same time and are leveling together do we have to do the class missions twice?
yes you will. Lynk and I finished our agents together and we had to do the missions twice. That and we just solo'ed the class stories at times to save time, but if you do them together, you will have to do them twice.


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Yeah, zbyl and me are both Consulars (and turned to Jedi Shadows, bad choice being both DPS, but we were before starting to play together 0_o).
We generally did our class mission's solo, as to not do it double. Unless we had difficulty with a boss. Then we joined forces. And any boss in class missions dies incredibly easy to 2 people, let me tell you that.
Sometimes I had trouble and struggling for 4 minutes to fight, then we tried it together in his instance and within 30 seconds it was all over...

(are any of you guys here on the Red Eclipse?)
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Most of us are on The Harbinger...

On my shadow I leveled mainly with a dps companion and on my Operator I did the same. Even my knight was largely leveled with dps companion although I did do boss fights with Doc. I find the best defense is to kill everything real fast. Mav rubbing off on me I guess.


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Probably best to ungroup to do class stuff. If your friend goes before you and you go in his, that'll spoil it for you, and vice-versa. Just group up for the class phases when they seem difficult. If one finishes early, they wait before moving on.

You definitely can't do class ones as one, since you don't want your friend screwing with your class story. Other players are spectators, same as when you go in the class phase of another class. You could potentially do them as opposing karmas just to see how the class stories vary along alignments, if either of you tends to the other karma alignment.

My Trooper is Light, it's fun, very patriotic and lawful good. But others do Trooper as Dark and also have fun.


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When shadow I kept Qyzen (petnamed "lizzie") for the entire game.
Zbyl generally kept Tharan around (so I did get healed from time to time).

So we got 2DPS, 1 healer, 1 tank... good configuration
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Rogue actually he does do the darkside story for everyone and I tend to the lightside if I am republic and dark if I am Sith. So trooper wise that might work out to see both sides.


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Thanks for your answer. Yes. You are right. I should try it for myself!
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Speaking of heals, I am now Lvl 24 on my Sith Sorcerer and also appreciate the value of it. From what I hear, sorcerers are not ideally suited for healers, even if fully specced, compared to healers of other classes. Where the sorcerer DOES have an advantage, however, is the Static Barrier (dubbed the "Bubble"), which to my thinking is just as effective if not more so than straight healing. Better to resist damage than to heal it but keep taking it, eh?

The Bubble comes in especially handy as it's an instant power, whereas my two healing powers (I am specced for DPS, not healing, so that's all I get, other than a self only heal) have activation times. Party member low on health? POOF instant bubble, and now I have enough time to activate some heals.

I really love my Sorcerer (I'm speccing Madness Tree). You got some great area DPS abilities, some great single target DPS abilities, lots of crowd control, the healing + Bubble synergy, AND a tanky companion.

Plus in every game I play, the "evil wizard" type is always my preferred choice. >

Of course, I suck in PvP, not because of the class, but because of my own poor twitch reflexes lol. I've seen a Lvl 11 Sorcerer be Unbeatable in a PvP vs. much high level players, so. xD

About crafting, I eventually just gave up on Artifice. It's too much of a grind. Constantly gathering or buying materials, having to keep sending crew to craft, reverse engineering the results till I get a schematic, etc. Bleh. I'll just buy good stuff if I really need it. And quest rewards + commendations are usually plenty good by themselves. Besides, I hear that at Lvl 50, the best loot is like PvP rewards or drops or something.

I wish I could twink my Sorcerer, but my other character is only Lvl 31, so soon my Sith is gonna be caught up! :O
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The healing classes are very well balanced. Many, many very good and knowledgeable people consider Sages/Sorcerers the best healer in game. Personally not being overly good or knowledgeable I consider Operatives/Scoundrels to be the best healer in the game, but even as bias as I am, I know that Sages/Sorcerers have the best AoE heal in the game. In PvE, a Sage/Scoundrel or Sorcerer/Operative team is a very powerful healing team. Again some progression groups think those are the go to combination. Again I disagree, while that is my favorite combination, I don’t care what other class I play with. All healing classes are more than capable of getting a group through any content in the game provided the person behind the class understands their role and their class abilities.

Depends on what you are doing, PvE rewards for Operations are the best you can get in game, for PvE. Same goes for PvP, the reward you get there is the best you can get for PvP.


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Can stuff you buy from PvP vendors ONLY be used in PvP? You can't use them in PvE?

And I'm preferred status, so no Ops for me unless I buy a Pass xD What are the best items in the game outside of endgame ops? The artifact vendors on the fleet? End-of-class questline drops? Lvl 50 flashpoints? Or something craftable?

EDIT: Also, as far as the AOE heal...I'm NOT specced in healing, so I don't get the AOE heals. That would be the Corruption (healing) skill tree. What is cool though, is that I have Revive with zero cooldown! ^^ Is that something only Sorcerers/Sages get, or do all healers get it?
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A good healer is wonderful to play with. They sure make a big difference. They change the frustration the over powered Bosses create to joy at the wonderful game. I do love it and the healers really do help.


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Can stuff you buy from PvP vendors ONLY be used in PvP? You can't use them in PvE?
You can use PVP gear in PvE, it is just not very good gear for PvE... I should say some of it isn't very good gear in PvE.


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Mimartin - Oh, right, the Expertise thing? IIRC, that's a PvP only stat that affects damage to dish out and take vs other players?

Well, that explains that, I haven't invested in ANY PvP gear. So not only am I unskilled as a player, I'm severely underequipped for PvP xD
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