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Old 03-22-2001, 02:25 AM   #1
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Question Would you like to play as...

If LucasArts/Big Ape were ever to make pay=tches for TPM to let you play alternate game characters, which would they be?

I vote for:
Destroyer Droid (droideka)
Darth Maul
Coruscant Mercenary
Adi Gallia (not in the game, but in JPB she has awesome moves )

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Old 03-22-2001, 04:04 AM   #2
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Hmmm.. Droideka sounds tempting

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Old 03-22-2001, 01:12 PM   #3
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JAR JAR

Darth Maul for sure. Mace Windu. Yoda would be neat. A Tusken Raider. Boba Fett Darth Vader The possibilities are endless...

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Old 03-22-2001, 09:09 PM   #4
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Yes, Darth Vader, and then make him meet up with Anakin and screw up his mind/alter space and time. Hmmm... I see a new sig here. "No Anakin, I am YOU!"
Anakin: "No, that's not true, that's impossible, I don't sound like some gibberish idiot anymore!" etc...

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Old 03-22-2001, 09:27 PM   #5
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lol i'd like to play as Mas Ameda, he's so cool!
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Old 03-22-2001, 09:55 PM   #6
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That would be incredible. Zanzibar, is there a way to play as Darth Maul at least because he is in the game and there must be a 3D model of him. Maybe if we play with the files...
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Old 03-22-2001, 11:12 PM   #7
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Actually there are some patches but I think LEC won't let Big Ape release 'em... There was a petition going about that also

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Old 03-23-2001, 05:39 PM   #8
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OK, I'll let you guys in on a little seeeecret. This is quite a bit of work for very little reward, so don't say I didn't warn you:

Some enterprising programmers out there have used a program called Conman to extract files from the Big.Lab file in the TPM directory.

Disclaimers:
1. I am not a programmer, so I have no idea how Conman works, or WHERE to get it, I am simply giving you secondhand info.
2. Playing with this kind of stuff is STRONGLY discouraged, because you not only are tampering with the TPM files (which is against the End User License Agreement), but can foul up your TPM install, meaning you'd have to reinstall. Careful users can avoid this; back up savegames and your Big.Lab file elsewhere.

OK, now that THAT'S out of the way:

Copy your BIG.LAB file to a separate directory. Conman will extract a lot of .BAF files from the BIG.LAB file. Those .BAF files are the model files, and will have filenames like destroyer.baf etc.

If you RENAME a COPY of a particular .baf file to one of the following, and place this COPY into your root TPM directory:

obiwan.baf
quigon.baf
queen.baf
panaka.baf

THEN, start the game, it will replace the player character with whatever .BAF file you renamed. BUT, THE ANIMATION ORDER MAY VERY WELL BE SCREWED UP, AND YOU WILL UNDOUBTEDLY CRASH IF YOU TRY ANYTHING, except maybe walking and running. This is a model change, and will be entertaining for a few mins, but you won't be able to really do anything. The instant that you try to do something that there is no animation for (the player chars had about 100anims each, most others had 7-10), it will crash horribly.

And, yes, if you rename a destryr.baf to baron.baf and copy it into the TPM root, you will see destroyers instead of Baron (battle) droids. And you can swap out various others. BUT AGAIN, the anims are different from model to model, so you are definitely risking a crash.

To restore your original characters, delete any BAFs in your root TPM directory.

Oh, and you didn't hear it from me. Um, my, um, Jediknight account was hacked, and, um. Yeah. Hacked. That's it.

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Old 03-23-2001, 06:53 PM   #9
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Yes, he's right. I did it. I did it all.
Now if you excuse me, I have to go..... sleep. yes, that's it..... sleep.....

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Old 03-23-2001, 06:59 PM   #10
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why didn't i think of that?! oh, zanz, it's possible to change your rank at the end of the game too, right? 'cause i think i have an idea how. hehe...
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Old 03-23-2001, 09:39 PM   #11
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Thanks Zan. Unfortunately, Darth Maul will propably cause the game to crash because he doesn't have the same animations of the two Jedi.
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Old 03-23-2001, 11:24 PM   #12
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Yeah unfortunately it's not really an option... unless someone figures out how to make hacks now that we have these bits of info...

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Old 03-24-2001, 12:18 AM   #13
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well i got the dude who i wanted to be as to work! note: some work only in different levels. I've only gotten 2 to work, i mean 3, the 3rd was one of darth mauls attacks, kinda weird too.
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Old 03-24-2001, 05:59 PM   #14
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You really did it? You played as Darth Maul? Great! I wanna play too!
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Old 03-25-2001, 01:43 AM   #15
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no, i got coruscant mercenary (corusmerc2.baf i think) to work, but only on the last level, you need to open a saved game, and the player can't have any weapons, if it does, it'll try to load the weapon key, and it'll crash.
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Old 03-25-2001, 02:10 AM   #16
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Can you use the merc's original weapon?

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Old 03-26-2001, 12:48 PM   #17
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nope. you can't use his weapon, they show his weapon, but it's not lit up on the one end.
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