Kotor Tool - v1.0.2210.16738 (2006-1-19 12:38)

[ChAiNz.2da]

Originally Posted by Fred Tetra

New MapInfo.bfd (v1.2006.0105.1) and maps to support these modules has been posted:

• 401dxn - Dxun Jungle Landing
• 402dxn - Dxun Jungle

Both of these have had their trees defoliated so that you can see where things are, as an added bonus.

Updated the mirror site

http://www.jumpstationz.com/KotorToolMaps/

And boy do I mean update.. gadz! I was 16 maps behind Fred.. sorry about that man

I was on hiatus for a month doing some traveling & training, but all is good now. Plus I've updated the .bfd files/installer and all the site links pointing to your new website (I think I've worked long enough today... hehehe)..

[Fred Tetra]

New MapInfo.bfd (v1.2006.0105.2) and maps to support these modules has been posted:

• 262tel - Telos Secret Academy
• 853nih - Ravager cutscene

[brwarner]

I know you're busy with the maps and all but I thought of something that would make kotor tool much more convienient.
Possibly make the conversation editor so it can make kotor 2 dialogs like tk's

[Fred Tetra]

Originally Posted by brwarner

I know you're busy with the maps and all but I thought of something that would make kotor tool much more convienient.
Possibly make the conversation editor so it can make kotor 2 dialogs like tk's

Making it, would, however, make my life more inconvenient. It would take some sizable motivation to take the time to extend it to fully handle K2 dialogs.


In other news, the maps for the 10 original modules for Kotor I are now available for download from the new Kotor Tool site.

Since maps for K1 take sooo long to assemble (3+ hours each, usually) I don't plan on doing any more of them unless someone really wants to "commision" one for themselves.

[Det. Bart Lasiter]

I'll create a few if you post a tutorial on how to generate the *.map files for them.

[deathdisco]

Fred,
FYI, When I select "Scipt is for KOTOR II" in the text editor I get this error.

Could not find file "C:\PROGRA~1\LUCASA~1\SWKotOR2\override\nwscript.n ss".

[Pavlos]

@deathdisco: Maybe you should try and place the nwscript.nss in your override seeing as how the program is looking for it. If you have the international version you can get one from here: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthrea...hreadid=143681, or you can update your game with the language patch, off the Lucas Arts site, and extract it with KotOR Tool and then put it into the Override. Or if you have the US version then just extract and place in the Override folder (Lots of Overrides in this post)

@Fred: In the other thread where you mentioned the mysterious room on Peragus, you said to continue the discussion here, you mentioned that there were many modules where the Ebon Hawk is way off in the distance. How many of the modules are like that, and can you post cordinates for them so that we can warp into the cut-scene rooms and have a look?

[Fred Tetra]

Originally Posted by jmac7142

I'll create a few if you post a tutorial on how to generate the *.map files for them.

Thanks, but I've tried that before, andpeople either give up after they see how much work it is, or, with few exceptions (T7 and Gsccc), they don't take enough care to align the rooms (or they want a tutorial on how to use Max, or the output file is in the wrong version, etc. The list goes on and on. )

[Fred Tetra]

Originally Posted by Pavlos

Fred: In the other thread where you mentioned the mysterious room on Peragus, you said to continue the discussion here, you mentioned that there were many modules where the Ebon Hawk is way off in the distance. How many of the modules are like that, and can you post cordinates for them so that we can warp into the cut-scene rooms and have a look?

Is there a way (from the console) to warp to a specific set of coords? Or do you mean via a script?

[Pavlos]

I mean via a script. Such as this one:

void main(){
    object oPC=GetFirstPC();
    vector vecTemp=Vector(30.81667,31.90966,1.75500); //This is the position that the PC will reappear in within the Module, get this from the whereami armband
    location locDestination=Location(vecTemp,0.0);
    NoClicksFor(1.0);
    AssignCommand( oPC,ActionJumpToLocation(locDestination));
}

To explore random locations I normally attatch it to an NPC dialogue.

[Clone L68362]

Heeey Fed I'm sure you can help me out here, when I try to start up Kotor Tool, I get a message saying something like "The program failed to initialize properly (0xc00000135) click Ok to terminate program."

Not sure why it's doing this, I might be missing something but I can't figure it out.

[Det. Bart Lasiter]

Originally Posted by Fred Tetra

Thanks, but I've tried that before, and people either give up after they see how much work it is, or, with few exceptions (T7 and Gsccc), they don't take enough care to align the rooms (or they want a tutorial on how to use Max, or the output file is in the wrong version, etc. The list goes on and on. )

I've got a lot of spare time now and know 3Ds Max fairly well. I'll make sure they're done properly, I've got a habit of triple or quadruple-checking things

[rgdelta]

Yeah Fred the info on where these are in a module would be helpful like you said in the other thread adding them to the module editor would be a major thing (huge and unrenderable is what you said) but if we had info on where these things are those of us module editors could make use of them even if we have to gff edit. Some of us know how to GFF edit :-)

[Fred Tetra]

Originally Posted by Clone L68362

Heeey Fed I'm sure you can help me out here, when I try to start up Kotor Tool, I get a message saying something like "The program failed to initialize properly (0xc00000135) click Ok to terminate program."

Not sure why it's doing this, I might be missing something but I can't figure it out.

Do you have:
• PC version of: Knights of the Old Republic I -or- Knights of the Old Republic: The Sith Lords
• Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 installed

[Fred Tetra]

Originally Posted by rgdelta

Yeah Fred the info on where these are in a module would be helpful like you said in the other thread adding them to the module editor would be a major thing (huge and unrenderable is what you said) but if we had info on where these things are those of us module editors could make use of them even if we have to gff edit. Some of us know how to GFF edit :-)

You can set your coords to: 7.463, 39.9, 9.052 for the mystery room on 104per.

As for the maps, I've considered having two maps, one for each "view" into the model, but right now that would mean copying your .git/.ifo/.are files back and forth between two folders. Perhaps a setting that tells the module editor that a given project folder is a multi-map type? Then you could select which view when want. Definitely complicated...

[Fred Tetra]

New MapInfo.bfd (v1.2006.0106.1) and maps to support these modules has been posted:

• 106per - Peragus Hangar Bay
• 202tel -Telos Citadel Station Entertainment 081

[Clone L68362]

I have both of those. Is that all you need to run it?

[rgdelta]

actually I had some problems with it that was fixed once I downloaded the .net framework 1.1 service packs and fixes.

[Fred Tetra]

Originally Posted by Clone L68362

I have both of those. Is that all you need to run it?

That's it, assuming you haven't moved your game's directory without reinstalling. (That would cause the registry entry, created during the game's installation and used by Kotor Tool to find the game's data, to not match. This is bad.)

[Miltiades]

I have a problem when I use my Module Editor to open the .git file, this is what I get when opening it:

http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/9...olerror4tf.gif

[The Source]

Originally Posted by Fred Tetra

New MapInfo.bfd (v1.2006.0106.1) and maps to support these modules has been posted:

• 106per - Peragus Hangar Bay
• 202tel -Telos Citadel Station Entertainment 081

THANK YOU

[ChAiNz.2da]

Originally Posted by Miltiades

I have a problem when I use my Module Editor to open the .git file, this is what I get when opening it:

http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/9...olerror4tf.gif

Did you install the latest mapinfo.bfd file? It should be on the same page as the maps (top of the page)...

Without it, KT won't recognize any of the newer maps loaded. The map851nih is one of Fred's latest I believe..(yesterday IIRC)

[Fred Tetra]

Originally Posted by Miltiades

I have a problem when I use my Module Editor to open the .git file, this is what I get when opening it:

http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/...oolerror4tf.gif

Something else you (and anyone else who has a Kotor Tool problem) should do (at the bare minimum) is to always post the version of Kotor Tool you're using. Remember, the more relevant info you post, the easier it is to solve your problem.

No developer likes to play the "How little information can I solve this problem with?" game.

So, a better way to ask for help would be:

"I get an error while trying to load the KotOR II module 851nih. I am using version 1.0.2171.12345 of Kotor Tool and version 1.2005.1010.1 of MapInfo.bfd and have copied the large map (map851nih.map) to the Maps folder inside of the Kotor Tool folder. I used the Extract for Module Editing function to put module's contents into a folder under My Documents\Module Projects\851nih. When I launch the Module editor, choose Open and select that folder, I get this error. (screenshot or EXACT text of error message here)."

This is the level of detail that can get your problem solved ASAP. If the abover versions were actual, I could easily say that version 1.2005.1010.1 of MapInfo.bfd didn't support the map for 851nih.

The idea is to second guess all of the things that might need to be known to solve your problem and post them in one fell swoop. That way, the chances are that you'll get a "next visit from Fred" anwser instead of waiting through several requests and replies of extra info.

[Kristy Kistic]

Fred...

I know this is a bit trivial, but could you possibly change the 'Model Export path' text box on the Path Manager form to a drop down combo box in a future update? I like to keep my models stored in more than one directory (especially to keep the k1 and k2 models separate) and it would save the hassle of having to "Browse for Folder" each time.

Whether you do or not, thanks anyway I love the tool. I use the snot out of it. Excellent work and it just keeps getting better!

[Miltiades]

Ok, I'll remember it in the future.

Ok, look at this: "I get an error while trying to load the KotOR II module 851nih. I am using version 1.0.2193.42740 of Kotor Tool and version 1.2005.1006.1 of MapInfo.bfd and have copied the large map (map851nih.map) to the Maps folder inside of the Kotor Tool folder. When I tried to use the Extract for Module Editing function to put module's contents into a folder under Kotor, I get this error: http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/...oolerror4tf.gif

When I extract the .git, .ifo and .are file seperately, I get the same error when I launch the Module editor, choose open and select the folder area in g:\Kotor Modding\area.

[rgdelta]

Are you using the manual download of mapinfo.bfd or the auto setup i always get that error with the auto setup and have to do the manual download.

[Miltiades]

Originally Posted by rgdelta

Are you using the manual download of mapinfo.bfd or the auto setup i always get that error with the auto setup and have to do the manual download.

Yes, with Manual Setup it works. Thanks rgdelta!

It seems the MapInfo.bfd file is smaller if you do auto setup.

[Darth InSidious]

Fred- you have saved me months of work on my mod - I don't know how to thank you, so will this do: ?

[rgdelta]

Yeah looks like for some reason the installer for the mapinfo.bfd installs a different or corrupt version.

[Fred Tetra]

Originally Posted by rgdelta

Yeah looks like for some reason the installer for the mapinfo.bfd installs a different or corrupt version.

As it turns out, the installer script was building the setup program using an old version of MapInfo.bfd.

For quite some time, the file was built by an external program and the script built the setup using its output.

Now, however, the file is built in the same location as Kotor Tool; I just forgot to adjust the path in the script.

This has been corrected and a new setup program has been posted to the Kotor Tool site.

[Fred Tetra]

I've made some tenative changes to Kotor Tool so that it can handle alternate maps and calibrations, which should allow users to work with modules that contain an additional "cutscene stage/set" without having to have both the main and stage areas on the map screen at the same time. I should be able to do some more testing tonight and I'll post the results then.

[Clone L68362]

Ah well. I've tried uninstalling it and downloading again, nothing helped. Would reinstalling KOTOR do anything?

[Fred Tetra]

Originally Posted by Clone L68362

Ah well. I've tried uninstalling it and downloading again, nothing helped. Would reinstalling KOTOR do anything?

Download and run the .NET framework version checker here:

http://www.tmgdevelopment.co.uk/versioncheck.htm

Then copy the results to the clipboard and paste them into a post.

Also, a screenshot of the error message would be handy.

[brwarner]

Originally Posted by Fred Tetra

Making it, would, however, make my life more inconvenient. It would take some sizable motivation to take the time to extend it to fully handle K2 dialogs.


In other news, the maps for the 10 original modules for Kotor I are now available for download from the new Kotor Tool site.

Since maps for K1 take sooo long to assemble (3+ hours each, usually) I don't plan on doing any more of them unless someone really wants to "commision" one for themselves.

Why do they take so long?? Is it just cutting off the roofs or is it aligning them. If it is the aligning part mustn't there be a way to do it automaticly like the game does in like 2 seconds??

[Clone L68362]

Here's the results...

Installed .NET Runtime(s)
Failed. The latest version is available for download from http://www.microsoft.com/net/default.asp. Installed version must be at least 1.0.3705.0.
Current version: No runtimes installed.

ADO Database Runtime Version
OK.
Current version: 2.81.1117.0
Determined from file: C:\Program Files\Common Files\System\ado\msado15.dll

Internet Explorer Version
OK.
Current version: 6.0.2900.2805
Determined from file: C:\WINDOWS\System32\shdocvw.dll

VersionCheck (c) 2002-2004 TMG Development Ltd - http://www.tmgdevelopment.co.uk/vers...k/indexapp.htm

Heh, I'm not sure how to take a shot of a page on the Internet, so I hope that will do...I'm guessing I need that thing that failed and it should work huh?

[Det. Bart Lasiter]

^^^^
It looks like you'll need the .NET Framework 1.1 in order to run KT.

[Clone L68362]

That's really weird. I could have sworn I downloaded it...well, thanks for the help guys, I gotta go mod!

[Fred Tetra]

A new version of Kotor Tool has been posted today.

If you're manually downloading, check that the version number is the one below.

v1.0.2201.41632 (2006-1-11 1:31)

Features/updates:

• Support for alternate Module maps added, such as 104per, which has an extra "cutscene stage".

New MapInfo.bfd (v1.2006.0111.1) and maps to support these modules has been posted:

• 104per - Peragus Asteroid Exterior
• 232tel - Telos Underground Base
• 233tel - Telos Czerka Site

[SilverSentinal2]

Hi I just wanted to say thanks for the neat hardware its really cool. Unfortunately I am hopelessly slow when it comes to learning how to use programs like this.

My question is this everytime I want to view an image it tells me that the viewer I configured isn't in the location that I specified. I think I know why its doing this, I installed a new video card and the Kotor games wont run until I've updated my drivers. Of course being the idiot I am I can't figure out how to do that either. But if you could tell me how to reconfigure the hardware so I can see images I would appreciate it.
Silver

[Fred Tetra]

Originally Posted by SilverSentinal2

Hi I just wanted to say thanks for the neat hardware its really cool. Unfortunately I am hopelessly slow when it comes to learning how to use programs like this.

My question is this everytime I want to view an image it tells me that the viewer I configured isn't in the location that I specified. I think I know why its doing this, I installed a new video card and the Kotor games wont run until I've updated my drivers. Of course being the idiot I am I can't figure out how to do that either. But if you could tell me how to reconfigure the hardware so I can see images I would appreciate it.
Silver

Changing you video card shouldn't affect something simple like viewing images. My only guesses are that either your path to the viewer is wrong or it doesn't take an image specification on the command line. That is, if you opened a command prompt, CD'd to the image viewer directory, then typed viewerAppNameHere completePathToTGAFile you should see the .TGA file. For example:

CD c:\progrs\irfanview
irfan c:\my pics\lbl_map201tel.tga