drumming up convo (game talk)

***Ikhnaton*** · 03-15-2004, 05:00 PM

i just bought rogue leader for 20 bucks at Tarjay and I didn't even make it past the first level.

it was too damn dark, i couldn't see ****! why oh why couldn't they have made it for the PC so i can use my real joystick?

SuicidalXWing · 03-15-2004, 06:55 PM

now its played on a tv, and tvs have this thing called picture settings, to make it brighter or darker for those who like it bright or dark. And stop whining about your joystick, ya big baby.

Ray Jones · 03-15-2004, 08:12 PM

get a console emulator and BANG! be pleased with your stick. as long as you got the original console and game i think it will be perfectly legal..

edlib · 03-15-2004, 10:45 PM

Yeah, Ike, there were a couple of levels on that game that I couldn't finish on the old, small blurry TV in my room that I had the Gamecube hooked up to... the enemy targets were too small to hit when they were far away, and it was too late when they got close enough to see them clearly.
I took it to the living room and hooked it up to the big TV and usually got through them right off the bat.

Now I've got it hooked up with the old living room TV setup (since I got a new TV for the living room this year,) with a ProLogicII 5.1 surround system in the basement den. The only way to fly!

The bigger the screen, and the better the TV resolution, the better off you'll be. Crank up the brightness and contrast. The daytime surface missions are sometimes a little easier.

The GC controllers suck. I have 4 controllers for multiplayer, and I've tried them all out on different games, there's a couple that are better at RL and RS than others. (Not as twitchy... a little smoother response.) Fortunately, they are all different colors, so it's pretty easy to remember which one I liked.

I'm stuck on Rebel Strike now. I really don't like the ground missions... ugh!

***Lynk Former*** · 03-16-2004, 01:30 AM

I've completely finished Rogue Leader and Rebel Strike 100%. I have a 48" rear projection and surround sound and the works. I love playing games on that TV, it's like i'm in the game, especially when i'm playing Metroid Prime.

...Is it me or do most people in this place suck at the Rogue Squadron games? A lot of people I seem to talk to about RS haven't even finished the game(s) yet.

*lukeiamyourdad* · 03-16-2004, 01:45 AM

Rogue Squadron 1 was easy.EASY!

I think people come here to spam not to post serious Rogue Squadron related posts

edlib · 03-16-2004, 02:34 AM

I prefer the X-Wing type games over the RS type games,.. so I'm better at them.

Rogue15 · 03-16-2004, 02:53 AM

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Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad
Rogue Squadron 1 was easy.EASY!

I think people come here to spam not to post serious Rogue Squadron related posts

...oh god not another spam discussion.

Rogue15 · 03-16-2004, 02:56 AM

I've only played the demo. =( I beat the original rogue squadron on n64 and pc w/all golds without cheating. ^_^

***Lynk Former*** · 03-16-2004, 03:52 AM

Hey r15, remember the

button?

I'm gonna be trading in Rogue Leader and Rebel Strike to buy the Macross Ultimate DVD Collection on friday since i've completed both games.

**Cmdr. Cracken** · 03-16-2004, 05:17 AM

i don't have a gamecube, so i haven't played a RS game since RS1.

**Redwing** · 03-16-2004, 05:33 AM

I imagine playing Rogue Leader on a small screen would be nightmarish.

Also, I like the Gamecube controller, but it's unbelievably ill-suited for a game like Rogue Leader

STTCT · 03-16-2004, 12:21 PM

What is rogue squardron?

Never heard of it.

I've been playing Pogo - the Poppit Game - disturbingly addictive.

**swphreak** · 03-16-2004, 01:43 PM

What is up with people complaining about the GC controller? Are my hands special and can adapt to any controller I use? I think the GC controller is fine. The XBox controller (the original huge version) was messed up for me. And you know what, the Gamecube and XBox S controller are almost the same. I think they copied the GC when they made the XBox S controller.

Now, speaking of the actual topic, I have beaten Rogue Leader, but not Rebel Strike yet. I hate those damn walking ground missions.

***Lynk Former*** · 03-16-2004, 02:05 PM

Most of the foot missions suck except for Hoth. Hoth was the only mission where everything seemed to work PERFECTLY (since they spent all their time fine tuning that one level

). The AT-ST levels were great too, lotsa fun blowin the crap outta things and even shooting TIEs out of the sky. The flight missions where great as usual but of course since every RS game has had flight missions there wasn't that much special about them anymore.

Playing ANY game on a small screen for me is a nightmare, not cause everything is too small but because I can't see the detail that the creators actually put into the game. It's SOOOOO much better to have a huge TV for games cause you get to see the world you're in as if you were actually in it instead of just playing it.

Oh and Redwing my friend who was lookin over my shoulder totally disagrees with your comment about the GCN controller being not suitable for the RS games. He played Rebel Strike for the first time and he learnt the controls in a minute and was playing fine the whole time. Factor 5 even said this is a series of games where you should be able to just pick up the controller and master them in a minute. There really isn't anything to think about with the controls at all XP

SuicidalXWing · 03-16-2004, 03:16 PM

its easier to see on a bigger screen and such, despite the fact that they tell you to use it on small screens so they don't get messed up. You're not supposed to use systems on projections screens either.....who really cares about that?

***Lynk Former*** · 03-16-2004, 03:21 PM

yeah but everyone does, that's why they have a "games mode" on projection tvs now. which does jack all but at least they know people are still gonna want to play games on a huge tv like that.

edlib · 03-16-2004, 05:36 PM

The biggest problem I have with the controller is that it's real hard to make small, subtle movements on it,.. especially in the heat of action when the adrenelin is pumping. It's too easy to push the stick too hard in one direction without meaning it.
A proper flight stick, like the Logitech ones I use on my PC are so much better than a sloppy little thumb stick.
Other than that the GC controllers are fine. Just hate the thumbstick.
If most game makers allowed you to customize the joystick response in the options menu then I really wouldn't have any complaint about them at all.

***Lynk Former*** · 03-16-2004, 09:38 PM

That's cause you're playing it like you play X-Wing. It's an arcade game not a space simulator. Mash the crap out of those buttons dammit!!

Kuuki · 03-16-2004, 11:39 PM

Special note that has to be a requirement on all Game cases

Monitor: 26" Stereo (52" Surround Sound Recomended)

SuicidalXWing · 03-17-2004, 01:02 AM

Its a delicate operation, and we're not the delicate type damn it!

**Redwing** · 03-17-2004, 04:31 AM

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Originally posted by Lynk Former

Oh and Redwing my friend who was lookin over my shoulder totally disagrees with your comment about the GCN controller being not suitable for the RS games. He played Rebel Strike for the first time and he learnt the controls in a minute and was playing fine the whole time. Factor 5 even said this is a series of games where you should be able to just pick up the controller and master them in a minute. There really isn't anything to think about with the controls at all XP

You mean you instinctively know how to use the throttle? The ion cannons? How to control your freaking S-Foils? How not to crash into walls on the Trench Run with a single twitch? How to evade enemy fire and still keep heading in one direction with a spastical little joystick shifting you 180 degrees with every little lurch?

Maybe it's more logical if you weren't used to the PC version already

STTCT · 03-17-2004, 06:00 AM

quit your whining guys - we all know the x-box has a far more ****ed up controller by far - and if Rhett comes in here screaming they don't have that damn controller anymore I'm going to strangle him

***Lynk Former*** · 03-17-2004, 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by Redwing
You mean you instinctively know how to use the throttle? The ion cannons? How to control your freaking S-Foils? How not to crash into walls on the Trench Run with a single twitch? How to evade enemy fire and still keep heading in one direction with a spastical little joystick shifting you 180 degrees with every little lurch?

Jeez you're a baby

Nitro · 03-17-2004, 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by STTCT
quit your whining guys - we all know the x-box has a far more ****ed up controller by far - and if Rhett comes in here screaming they don't have that damn controller anymore I'm going to strangle him

I think the point is that consoles blow... I haven't bought a console since the N64, and I don't think I will. After that, the controllers started sucking. The analog sticks are too awkward to use now: they all switched to the PlayStation's analog placement that I've never liked. And personally, I prefer the versatility of PC peripherals to the manditorosity (yes, I made it up) of console controllers...

But now I think I'll go play some Top Gun: The Second Mission on my trusty old NES...

Peace.

Nute Gunray · 03-17-2004, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by STTCT
quit your whining guys - we all know the x-box has a far more ****ed up controller by far - and if Rhett comes in here screaming they don't have that damn controller anymore I'm going to strangle him

I think you have massive amounts of brain damage. I'd get that checked out if I were you.

Ray Jones · 03-17-2004, 07:59 PM

i rember the neGcon controller for psx. that was a cool one. it had no sticks but you could turn it in the centre and id had analogue buttons.

teh best controller ever for games like wipeout or ridge racer.

when i first time played the n64 controller it was totally spoot like crap.
but after playing diddy kong racing and mario kart 64 i somewhat got used to the n64 controller.

but like edlib said, those "thumbsticks" are quite difficult to handle in the big rush.

and err yes, i never played any starwars game.

***Lynk Former*** · 03-18-2004, 01:44 AM

Oh the n64 had a hidden secret though my friend. It was the perfect controller to play first person shooters with. Use the C buttons to move and the analogue stick to look and the Z trigger to shoot and you've already got your basic setup happenin.

*lukeiamyourdad* · 03-18-2004, 01:47 AM

The N64's controller had my favorite thumb stick of all time. It was very well placed...I liked it compared to the newer ones(especiallly the horrible ones on the PS2).

Nitro · 03-18-2004, 01:50 AM

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Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad
The N64's controller had my favorite thumb stick of all time. It was very well placed...I liked it compared to the newer ones(especiallly the horrible ones on the PS2).

My thoughts EXACTLY.

edlib · 03-18-2004, 03:42 AM

Sorry folks,.. but it just doesn't get any better than this for console gaming...

'Cept they used to break after about 3 months or so...

Ray Jones · 03-18-2004, 06:17 AM

depends to the game..

STTCT · 03-18-2004, 07:14 AM

I had sooo many blisters from that damn joystick!!!!!

Memories!

Nitro · 03-18-2004, 10:35 AM

You wanna talk about blisters... The d-pad on those old NES controllers could really tear up your thumbs by the end of SMB3.

STTCT · 03-18-2004, 10:51 AM

Yup I hated that damn controller too...RECTANGLE.

What an awesome idea! Sharp corner hitting imbetween your index finger and your thumb...and those A&B combos...ack!

SuicidalXWing · 03-18-2004, 04:37 PM

FPS are not for consoles period, the N64 controller sucks for FPS as well. When I first used a playstation controller, I was getting hand cramps cause of its design. The best controller was the SNES controller. XBOX still has by far the worst design ever. It's like a giant keyboard for your hands, speaking of which, I want to get a keyboard for my PS2. GC's controller is kind of annoying, weird button placement, but its ok for some games.

Nute Gunray · 03-18-2004, 05:28 PM

What kind of dainty little girl hands do you people have it the xbox controller is too big? The GC controller is like a ****ing play skool toy. Its feels like i'm using a credit card for a controller.

**Redwing** · 03-18-2004, 10:36 PM

It's BAD having small...er..."dainty girl hands"?!

Also: Seriously.

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Originally posted by SuicidalXWing
FPS are not for consoles period

I submit "Halo" on X-Box as counter-evidence.

Lynk: Yes, yes I am. Your point?

*lukeiamyourdad* · 03-19-2004, 12:38 AM

Halo may have been the best console shooter, it's not the best PC shooter IMO.

SuicidalXWing · 03-19-2004, 04:43 AM

GC is a small controller, that's why i hate it, and I haven't seen the newer XBox controller, the original was terrible. I played Halo on XBOX with that controller. God, movement sucks for that game. I prefer my mouse, cause it actually moves like a reflex, rather than like I'm taking some f*cking drugs. Mouselook all the way. ...remember when you could look everywhere like in Wolf3d, the first FPS....ah, those were the days, we lived off of such pixelated graphics.....

*goes off into his own little world*