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03-30-2004, 11:16 AM
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NEW ANIMATIONS IN JKA - HowTo
Well its about time someone brought this to the fore front.
Luckily with the help of the notables in the community. ASK, Corto, RazorAce, etc. I'm Pretty much done with a JKA animatable Skeleton.
I'll be needing hosting for the xsi. And if You can do player models you can do this, Don't be shy now.
The how-to is exactly the same as JK2. Its the skeleton thats different.
Here's my test anim. Sorry I have no-where to host a clip but its a screeny.
I know its simple but it was just a quick test to make sure it didn't deform. I'll get to the complicated stuff here shortly.
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03-30-2004, 12:05 PM
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Keshire - the new hero of the JKA modding world  (along with all the others who did the groundwork...)
Well done my man. We now have an exciting time ahead!
Last edited by RenegadeOfPhunk; 03-30-2004 at 03:29 PM.
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03-30-2004, 08:18 PM
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Good job. Do you have the XSI hosted yet?
Mt-Wudan.com
I made a silly little program called Dragon, which is an animation tool for the GLA format, used in Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy and Krakatoa.
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03-31-2004, 03:45 AM
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Let me make sure all the bugs are out by making Renegade's expanded Dual Blaster Anims. Then I'll make sure it gets distributed to a good amount of sites.
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03-31-2004, 05:01 AM
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03-31-2004, 12:04 PM
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I passed along my source files to RazorAce and Renegade. so hopefully it'll be upped into the cvs soon. If I had access from here at work It'd be faster. But alas. My ports are blocked. 
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04-01-2004, 06:28 AM
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For those that want to grab the files to take a look, Instructions for downloading from the OJP file repository can be found here.
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthrea...hreadid=119776
The animation stuff can be found under tools.
Also feel free to browse the many topics on the OJP boards. Public Opinion is always important for the Open Jedi Project.
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04-01-2004, 06:57 AM
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Yowza.
Very nice work Keshire. I'll be sure to grap the skeleton and see what neat animations can be done... I just need to apply for days to be made into 48 hours instead of 24. =P
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04-01-2004, 03:02 PM
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I assume this means my glamerge DOES work for other skeletons, in particular JKA (i never tested it on others, I just made it to be generic, so I assumed it would have no troubles)
Or are those done using Wudan's tool?
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I updated the old animation thread to include the JKA info. I hope you don't mind, keshire. If you do, or if you spot any inaccurate info, please let me know
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04-02-2004, 03:40 AM
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Oh ya, your tool does work. More than likely it'll merge with any skeleton as long as its accurate. One thing I noticed though was that it'll only merge once. After that the _humanoid isn't recognized as a valid animation file by the glamerger. Thats not a real problem though as long ass people don't go deleting their xsi's
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04-02-2004, 03:08 PM
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After that the _humanoid isn't recognized as a valid animation file by the glamerger.
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Shouldn't happen
The check depends on finding the magic word 2LGA as first 4 bytes in the header
can you open the gla file in a hex editor and tell me if the first bytes look like:
2LGA <4 bytes that are version> <path to gla> ...
or even better, if you can cut around 100kb of the file and email me at
ask@darklordsofsith.com
or send on irc.gamesurge.net/#jediknight, my nickname there is ASk
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04-03-2004, 03:48 AM
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 , I think it was my own fault. I maybe tried to overwrite the file I was merging.
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04-03-2004, 04:49 AM
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Oh
Well. seeing as glamerge is now regarded by me as a really ugly piece of code, it almost does not have any failsafes and error-checking :/
I think it runs at order of O(n^2) or O(n^3). Ugh 
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04-03-2004, 05:02 AM
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I had a few convo's with you back when JKA was beta on IRC. If you remember. Since then the ports for IRC were blocked at where I work. I need to get the networking guys to give me a break.
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04-03-2004, 10:35 AM
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if port 6666 is not blocked, nuclearfallout.ca.us.gamesurge.net:6666
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04-03-2004, 11:01 AM
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Nope, only thing open would be email/news, http, and messenger.
I use msn under Keshire 
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04-03-2004, 03:36 PM
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Are you sure that's MSN and not AIM?
and nickname is not enough for MSN buddylist add, I would need you to pm me your MSN email address (don't post online for spam shall reach you then)
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04-06-2004, 04:45 AM
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Oops, my bad.
*edited msn out*
Spam doesn't bother me all that much due to the fact that I've never touched that email account.
*edit*
No I will not join any clans or modding groups. 
Apathy Cannot Inspire.
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04-06-2004, 08:46 AM
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Impressive, Terran!
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People trying to headhunt already eh?
---Jedi Guardian of the Newbie Questions
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05-19-2004, 05:41 PM
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Impressive, Terran!
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Ok, I'd like to announce that we've gotten our hands on Raven's source files for all the JKA animations AND the source files for all the standard player models created by Raven. We're currently in the process of sorting thru all the data and getting it organized for release.
So far, we've released 3 packages, which can be found on lucasfiles.com:
Humanoid Animation Source Files
Player Model Source Files
Non-Humanoid Animations and Models Source Files
A big thanks to Keshire for talking Raven out of the files and then spending the time to organizing them.
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05-19-2004, 11:01 PM
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This will help with animations a lot. Thanks Keshire.
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06-24-2004, 01:12 PM
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man u can use that little box named as bones like a skelleton and make a new model wich would have the same anims?
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06-24-2004, 03:21 PM
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nice, i re-did hazardtrooper  , thx keshire
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06-24-2004, 06:45 PM
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man what the hell is wrong here? the model is perfect at modview but look in game.

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