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Old 07-15-2004, 01:28 AM   #41
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Lasers can be any colours.
If you watched the Star Wars Trilogy (boy I sure hope you have if you're on this forum), you'll clearly see that Chewbacca's bowcaster shoots distinctive red lasers. The only place that bowcasters have green lasers is in the Jedi Knight series (Dark Forces II, Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy). The "Shock Troop" for the Imperials seems to be based on the "Field Troopers" in Dark Forces II. The "Tech" class in Jedi Academy's Siege mode is also a medic/supplier. It seems that the Jedi Knight series has played a role in influencing the design of Battlefront. Too bad it had to have a negative influence in some ways...
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Old 07-15-2004, 01:29 AM   #42
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Also notice how there are blue lasers, those are ion gun. Remeber how in the movies they could switch to stun which was blue? That is VERY effective agasit electrical devices eg droids. Lets hope its is the game
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Old 07-15-2004, 01:31 AM   #43
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Clone Trooper rifles shot blue lasers; that has nothing to do with ion blasters. And what do ion blasters and stun mode have to do with each other?
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same thing
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Old 07-15-2004, 01:36 AM   #45
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All I have to say is WOW! That AT-ST blasting away at the troopers below lol!! And the face shot on the ewock! Priceless!

And remember it's still not finished yet. Don't judge so quickly. And stop nit picking about laser colors and other small things. If you want it perfect, than watch the movie.
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Old 07-15-2004, 01:53 AM   #46
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same thing
No... no, it's not.

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If you want it perfect, than watch the movie.
Or they could just do it right.

Let me quote the official video at LucasArts.com:

FOR YEARS YOU'VE WATCHED THE GREATEST STAR WARS BATTLES

WHAT IF...

YOU COULD ACTUALLY LIVE THEM...


That's the point of the game. The point is living the Star Wars battles. This game is supposed to be true to the movies. But I see that they've already broken their own rule... by adding the Dark Trooper... green bowcaster lasers... Pilots being medics/suppliers... a shame.
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Old 07-15-2004, 01:58 AM   #47
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BooHoo. I have already said that the game is not done yet. Maybe they put it in there so there could meet a deadline with that hands on thing in California. They will most likely fix the bugs before it comes out, and if they don't than well then....BooHoo!
How will you live without red bowcaster lasers!LOL
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Old 07-15-2004, 02:15 AM   #48
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How will you live without red bowcaster lasers!LOL
It's called modding. I've already fixed so many stupid errors in Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy.

So the joke's on you!
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Old 07-15-2004, 04:01 AM   #49
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*Readies flame thrower*

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You took the "live the movies" part a little too seriously.

For one,who cares about the color of a friggin laser,to me,the colors mean nothing.Lets go by your logic,lets take out the darktrooper and put the officer in,the officer would have no point without the rebel spy,and the officers abilites have been given to a different class,which would make the officer pointless and make the Imperials weak against the rebels.

OMG,the laser is a different color,the games ruined because it doesnt let you live the movies,if it did,the lasers would be green!!!
"im going to have to make a mod to fix this disaster and make the game the way its supposed to be"

Of course I shouldnt be flaming you,as this is behavior about 80 percent of SW fans have,they over-analyze and nitpick at every minor thing,thinking of it as a huge flaw.Then they feel they need to correct it because they think that the way THEY want it to be,is the way everyone else wants it to be too.And BTW,starwars is a six part story,thus it is NOT a trilogy,but of course you would call it one,because youe the kind of purists that doesnt think of the prequels as starwars movies!!!!



Sorry for this big flame,dont take it personal.I was more trying to get my point across to OT obsessives in general and it came off a bit harsh.It just annoys me seeing all this nitpicking,and I just dont get how anyone could be so obsessive over something so small.Once again,sorry for getting so angry.You can flame me if you want
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Old 07-15-2004, 04:07 AM   #50
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Im more worried about the droids being overpowered.
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Old 07-15-2004, 09:43 AM   #51
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HUGE thanks to Craftsman and SithShadowCat for the vid. It was awesome thanks guys.
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Old 07-15-2004, 09:45 AM   #52
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Wow, that video is just amazing! And that's some really nice graphics too...

As for laser colours and stuff like that, I don't care much...

And thanks for the video, thank you very much.

About overpowered things, I fear that as well. I see some classes like the Rocketlauncher class can just walk around and shot ultra-fast missiles and blow 4-5 people away, not to mention they'll be able to hurt a vehicle as well.


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Old 07-15-2004, 10:29 AM   #53
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More so for xbox then pc...I hope they have limits on the "special" classes.
PC servers tend to fudge with their own limts (or lack of)
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Old 07-15-2004, 10:59 AM   #54
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they said they had lots of fun with rocketlauncher and only used it on 1 map....its deadly against units...I fear, and i predict torpedo launcher wars.

as for the bowcaster, i think greeen is waay better than red. And for "JK" causing this, bear in mind that those with creative sw ideas behind lucasrtas decided that, and not some developpers, and its logical it would be like that for all games

as for droidekas, i saw it again and watched a few (WHITE?) lasers hit the droideka in shield mode and it lost quite the amount of damage

in this game health will be very low i think, this needs to be a fast paced game to get that "hundreds vs hundreds" movie feeling

I still think sniper should move..so there would be less snipers, this is way too easy

and yeah, they reload...i thought weapons with lasers didnt :\ oh well, its for the best since reloading would help spraying

i love the character selection menu

really pumped for this game...fighting with and vs at sts....omg...
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Old 07-15-2004, 12:04 PM   #55
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I cant watch because it a zip, is there anyway to get it to work without winzip?


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Old 07-15-2004, 12:17 PM   #56
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nah...them blasters have clips. Those powercells go quick.
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Old 07-15-2004, 01:36 PM   #57
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BurnsU, you really aught to put spaces after punctuation marks. Boy is it hard to read words that are all crammed together.
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Old 07-15-2004, 02:15 PM   #58
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You took the "live the movies" part a little too seriously.
That's the point of the game

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For one,who cares about the color of a friggin laser,to me,the colors mean nothing.
It's the star wars feeling, that's the point of the game
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Lets go by your logic,lets take out the darktrooper and put the officer in,the officer would have no point without the rebel spy,and the officers abilites have been given to a different class,which would make the officer pointless and make the Imperials weak against the rebels.
Fuck logic

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And BTW,starwars is a six part story,thus it is NOT a trilogy,but of course you would call it one,because youe the kind of purists that doesnt think of the prequels as starwars movies!!!!
That's why there is the original trilogy and the prequel trilogy


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Old 07-15-2004, 03:13 PM   #59
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Actually, you can't call Episode 4-6 originals, because the prequels are not copies of the old movies. I'd call them sequels, but that's probably just me.

I want to discuss more about the trailer, the gameplay seems really smooth, and I loved the graphics. I'm just hoping the Missile Launcher class won't take out everyone all by itself, as can be seen in the video. I mean, if you talk about realism, then the Heavy class could actually just walk around and blast people, but this is a game


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Old 07-15-2004, 03:20 PM   #60
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Actually, you can't call Episode 4-6 originals, because the prequels are not copies of the old movies. I'd call them sequels, but that's probably just me.
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Old 07-15-2004, 04:01 PM   #61
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In the battlefield games, a well placed shot with your missile launcher or grenade launcher would take out four guys who are close together and seriously hurt anyone else near their proximity so it is in fact more realistic. It's also a one shot kill regardless of what body part would get hit just as in real life. Also if hit just right, you'd see the guy who got missle'd fly about 50 feet in the air, pretty hilarious. I think that translates pretty well into this game. Also missile guys only had about 3 or 4 missles and a sidearm, so they're pretty weak when they run outta rocket ammo, it's also a bitch to go and find an ammo dump while trying to dodge bullets and rockets from the opposing team as i think will happen in this game. Plus to be accurate and actually hit someone with a rocket, you gotta be fairly stationary which is a good thing for a potential sniper. I sniped more rocket guys in the BF games more than anything cause they were always trying to hit tanks and other team members but they had to aim just right to do it which meant standing in one place. Nice way to rack up your kill score.
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I think you meant to reply to the Return of the Rocket thread
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Old 07-15-2004, 05:43 PM   #63
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awesome

the game looks awesome . and about the droidekas it looks like their shield runs down pretty quick and u could probably easily throw a grenade since it is stationary. so i dont think it is too good...there should be many ways to kill one...


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Old 07-19-2004, 01:42 PM   #64
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anyone else notice the battle droids are shiny? is it staying like that you think? that's the only strange thing to me.
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Old 07-19-2004, 02:16 PM   #65
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anyone else notice the battle droids are shiny? is it staying like that you think? that's the only strange thing to me.
I hope it will stay like that


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Old 07-19-2004, 02:35 PM   #66
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anyone else notice the battle droids are shiny? is it staying like that you think? that's the only strange thing to me.
Well, technically speaking, the ones on Geonosis should be a reddy brown colour.

One thing I have noticed is the lack of ranks in Battle Droids. I would suggest:

Heavy Weapons - Commander Droid (Yellow Spot on front, Yellow Shoulders & Yellow Head markings)
Pilot/Medic - Pilot Droid (Blue Shoulders & Blue Head markings)
Scout/Recon - Doesn't really fit in, would have to be standard battle droid markings, the only other skin, Security, doesn't really match this class.

Of course, there should be standard cream battle droids all of the levels but Geonosis, where they would be the reddy brown, another good reason for not having the Security Droid markings, these are red too.

I should hope they are not shiny, and are returned to the cream. Although there are always mods.

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idk if any1 said this but about the droideka taking out a squad of clone troopers...there's 2 droidekas and like 5 clone troopers with just blaster rifles not throwing grenades and barely shooting at the droideka ...and at the end the droidekas shields are dropping quick and its just about to die so i dont think its overpowered...


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Old 07-19-2004, 10:51 PM   #68
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The shininess in the game is the bump mapping which is something done for X-BOX and PC's with good video cards. How they're gonna accomplish that for the PS2, though remains to be seen.
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Wonder why the gamecube is left out? Hmm.
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They left the Gamecube out because the next Nintendo console system is going to shown at E3 2005 in May of next year thus I assume they will release the next Nintendo console system in 2005. Why would they want to release a star wars video game on a system that is about to be replaced?


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Wonder why the gamecube is left out? Hmm.
The simplest of reasons, GameCube can't connect to the web.


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Gamecube sucks. They(Nintendo) better come out with something better is they want to stay in the gaming market. Online play is the main market right now.
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when the the guy with jetpack, is it just a boost or can u hover and move forward for a few secs(20)?
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lol i dont care what the color the laser is, it can be rainbowy id like it if it get the job friggin done.
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N64 rocked, though.
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N64 rocked, though.
It sure was better than the PlayStation, yet I think it wasn't as good as the DreamCast


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it had goldeneye, and that made it better thn the dreamcast, and just as good as the ps2.
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Well don't trust anything I say, I never had any console. I did see the PS and PS2 though.


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it had goldeneye, and that made it better thn the dreamcast, and just as good as the ps2.
N64-Goldeneye(you could also have used Perfect Dark, or either zelda game... but better than the dreamcast? please. Just as good as the ps2? What kinda messed up hippy crack are you smoking?

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Bangai-O, Ikaruga, Expendable, SF3 Double Impact , Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolves.

I've got a N64, I've also got a dreamcast and a ps1 and ps2. I play my dreamcast more than any of them. next to that I play my PS2 but you can't comapre systems like those. Its like trying to compare a fighter jet to a submarine.

N64 Doesnt have a single game better than a dreamcast game. I love Zelda but the N64 Game Quality falls far below anything that was ever put out on the dreamcast and if you consider N64 being a better system cause it had 007, Geeze Play perfect Dark. WAY BETTER THAN 007. Or get urself a DC and play Slave Zero, Or maybe Q3 Arena but don't go saying N64 is better than dreamcast If you said that in Japan they'd beat you in the streets.
Dreamcast was and is a far better system than the N64.
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