Cantina 13: Rebellion [DISCUSSION THREAD]

[jokemaster]

Originally posted by Scar Da Kookee
*points at three doors*

Now let's see what our contestant chooses! And remeber you can only pick ONE DOOR!

I'll pick whichever one has the hot chick behind it.

[Kuuki]

*Looks at the judges*

Sorry sir, you have to select a door, and no, there is no hit chicks behind there!! :P

[jokemaster]

I didn't ask for a hit chick, I asked for a hot chick.

[Kuuki]

Err.. right..

[Deac]

Right, I'm off on holiday for two weeks. So, I won't be able to post until then. So, just fill me in when you get back.

Bye!

[Admiral]

Galactic Faction: Their own

Name:Idona
Gender:Female
Species: Unknown [Aesir]
Origin: Unknown [Asgard]
Description: Brown hair in braids, tall and muscular. She wheres the red and gold armor of the Valkrie. The symbol for the Valkryies on her armor has the addition of two swords showing her to be a member of teh Valkyrie Hunters.
Public Knowledge: None
Current Location/Status:Valen Minor

[Kuuki]

the asgard rules

[Redwing]

Deac, BD:

I need an idea of Coruscant's current defenses, the kind that an Imperial Loyalist intelligence agent might know. (and thus Starr.)

BD, what were the defenses like when the corrupt Senators were in control?

Deac, what changes has Reletha made, if any?

Thanks in advance.

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Edit: And a separate question, for BD only:

Who are the main decision-makers of the New Republic at this time? Clearly Taklin Flax is the main guy, but who would be beneath him? Who would make decisions to, for example, make an arms/supplies/etc. deal with a third party? How would that be handled? (An answer of "this option wouldn't be considered" is also a valid response, I'm not going for the whole "in theory" thing here. )

Note I don't mean pure military strategists, so someone like Ackbar is out.

(Also, are you ever going to post your character bios, as everyone else has on page one? ^_~)

[BattleDog]

Okay, ordering Homeric Last First.

3. No. Why, do you need them?

2. It depends who is offering, arms requisition would be handled by a Senate Commitee in the Republic. Anything has to be stamped by Flax at some point.

Currentlly Flax is opperating what might be reffered to as a Principate. Flax is Princeps, or first citizen, beneath him it gets a bit complicated.

Flax delegates power. He can pass laws on his own but when his five and a half months is up he wants to retain his standing democratically so laws are usually passed by the Senate and then the General Assembly before being signed by the Dictator.

Hal is Flax' military Right Hand, while Mirra fills the same political position, which previously was held by Sophae.

Kal is out of the loop with Deac.

The Senior Officers of the House Gaurd are responsible for a lot of Agamar's Military administration and various Staff Officers perform the same function in the wider Military Machine.

The Military of the various Sectors is overseen by the Military Counsel:

Ackbar
Doddonna
Bel Iblis
Madine
Cracken
Admiral Hektor Thran
Gaurd General Rasnar Telaris-Flax
Gaurd General taes'Windrider

I suppose any contracter would meet with a Senate Commitee and a Staff Officer.

1. Double Layered Shields you want get through without an ISD.

Three Rings of Golon Defence Platforms

24 Ground Based figher Wings, mainly X- E- and A-Wings

6 ISDIIs

6 MC90s

8 MC80b's

2 MC100s

24 Strike Crusiers

42 Frigates

Numerous Corvets, Gunships and support vessels.

Roughly one quarter of this fleet is on station at any one time the rest would be on patrol in the surroundign systems and would arrive in a matter of hours.

[Redwing]

3. No, but it's convenient, since it's hard to remember who is who especially with the similar names. I can't recall who Sellena even is, for example, and I keep forgetting Taklin Flax' first name, and what Kal's relation to this whole family is. Another confusing thing is that you call him "Flax" when it's the last name of a whole bunch of your characters. Bios would help with this.


2. Where might a potential contracter go to speak with someone about this? One with little to no previous contacts in the Republic? Even if they would be rejected out of hand if they weren't already an old ally. (Yes, I am going somewhere here, and it is somewhat important. )


1. Okay, thanks. Deac, my earlier question, what changes - if any - would Reletha have made here?

[BattleDog]

3. Okay then

Bios:

Name: Lord-General Taklin Flax.

Titles: First Lord of House Flax, Earl of the Black Wall, Lord of Agamar, Defender of the Rim, Warden of the Unbroken Towers, First Right to the Crown of King Malken of the Ancient Line. Jedi Lord


Height: 5 foot 10

Build: Relativly lean

Age: Around 50 (Born 19 BBY)

Hair: Brown

Eyes: Brown

Statas: Commander of the Rebel Forces, Father of Halren, Kalren and Mirrali Flax. Widower to Sophae Flax. Brother in Law to Sellenna Windrider

Gen Decs: A Warrior, pilot, leader, politician and Jedi Taklin Flax is one of the unsung heros of the Rebbellion. Present at the initial assult on the First Death Star, Commander of the escort pilots at Hoth and Commander responsible for the defence of Home One at Endor; Taklin Flax rose steadily though the ranks rather than rapidly, that is, until he met Deac Starkiller. A chance encounter with an NRI agent on Tatooine brought about a chain of events that saw Taklin's potential finally realised. Through the Crimson Star Episode to the Negotiation with Empire to the Second Rebbellion Taklin Flax met evey challenge and succeeded. Despite his current level of power Flax is no mythical hero.

With a fighter pilot's height and build he is dignified rather than overly handsome. Despite his age he remains healthy and vigerous. He holds the destiction of being and excellent swordsman with energy or Steel, having mastered the elegant Form II of Lightsaber Combat.

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Name: Knight-Colonel Halren Flax.

Titles: Second Lord of House Flax, Jedi Knight

Height: 6 foot 2

Build: Relativly heavy set

Age: Around 27 (Born 3 ABY)

Hair: Brown

Eyes: Brown

Statas: Son of Taklin Flax, Military Attache to the Embassy to the Aseir.

Gen Desc: A military minded individual like his father Hal is not the most centred Jedi, however his rigid adherance to The Code and his strong sense of honour ensure he will never fall to the dark side. He is a very powerful Jedi, his skills are honed to a fine combat adge and he is skilled, if less experianced tactition. Hal uses either one or two lighsabers or a blaster in combat, he is an excellant pilot, like his father. His only weaknesses are his short temper and his eye for women. He has been known to have a biting sence of humour.

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Name: Kalren Flax.

Titles: Lord of House Flax

Height: 5 foot 9

Build: Lean

Age: Around 22 (Born 8 ABY)

Hair: Brown

Eyes: Blue

Statas: Son of Taklin Flax

Gen Desc: A thoughful and quiet individual with a calm disposition. Kal takes after his mother and would rather avoid violence, he is strong in the force and his talents lean towards defence, healing and psychic powers. The Death of his mother hurt him. His aprenticeship to Deac Starkiller has been an on-off arragement and he remains inexperianced

[Redwing]

Gah, you did the Hero Machine thing too?

Give me a second, and I'll save and attach the image, if you want.

I suppose I should draw my own characters as well (although I don't have exact mental images for some of my characters yet...) so watch this space. ^_~

edit: The reason for this is that a third of my characters were created directly from drawings, a third of them were created from specific mental images for the same world, and a third were created specifically for this RPG. The first two thirds, I know exactly how they look. The last third, though, I don't really know.

Category 1: Rwos, Shane, Raschel, K'Warra, all PtH characters except Misae, H'lena and Trael from Crisis.

Category 2: Nereli, Gilian, Ida, Tari, Slythe, Sieze, Orion, Farran [original, "Ariel"], Riss, Celeste, Kvana from Mrear/Crisis, miscellaneous characters from Crisis.

Category 3: Starr, Luthen, Farran [Imperial version], Artemis, Sejhan, Duncan, Aren, Saria, Misae from PtH, side characters from Mrear, A'melie from Crisis.


Oh, and fine, BD, be that way

[BattleDog]

Red, the Hero machine thing is pretty good but I decided thats not the particular version I want you to see.

[Deac]

Red:

Reletha has continued to phase out Republic Starships with Imperial Ones. She has also added Interdictor Cruisers to all hyperspace points, and installed more planetary batteries, along with the deployment of her personal skyhook.

[Redwing]

Deac, JM: Do you want me to specify specifics for your assassins' augmentations, or do you just want to ad-lib on that?

[jokemaster]

Eh, whichever way's fine.

[Redwing]

Yeah...which is why I'm asking heehee

[jokemaster]

I guess you could specify some, and let us ad-lib some.

[Deac]

Red, I ripped mine off of Deus Ex. So they're pretty much decided on.

[Redwing]

Heh. XD Alright, then.

[Cmdr. Cracken]

Question: Are the Imperial Shipyards at Bilbringi and Kuat still under my control, or have they been captured to be used for Relentha's purposes?

[Deac]

Bilbringi's still yours, Stormbaltz told his men to head there in case of his death. Reletha's got Kuat, and that's where she's mass producing new SD's.

[Redwing]

Oops, I actually missed that Reletha had Kuat. Ah well.

[Redwing]

Deac: What has been done with the SSD Vigilance since Cracken and co. escaped?

Important for my next post. (Blades coming to check it out. )

[Deac]

The Vigilance has been destroyed. Once the command codes are locked, they're locked in. Most of the crew did manage to get away as Reletha turned the lockdown off after cracken escaped.

[Redwing]

Deac: Okay, then. Two more questions:

1) Is everyone else cleared out of the area?

2) Have they done/are the doing anything in the way of salvaging the wreckage?


BD, JM: Raschel Sheire in PtH was part of New Republic Intelligence, a member of a small "branch" that had an as-yet unknown purpose, was based on Coruscant, and kept top-secret. (I don't actually remember what I had intended for that, so it's up in the air.)

Raschel also knew Talkin Flax, although not Halren.

Wondering if this could be worked into the current plot somehow, just as a side thing? (i.e. Raschel is part of NRI intelligence trapped or left on Coruscant, etc)

[Deac]

Redwing:

1] The Fleet is still holding position, collecting survivors and salvaging the wreckage.

2] See above

3] There is a resistance group on Coruscant. It was the same group that Beler Jil lead to destroy the senate building. Raschel could easily be part of that and on the run.

[Admiral]

BD: A quick question on Flax and Sellenna. Both are Jedi correct?

If so why are they planning to betray their allies (the Empire). That to me appears to be the most blatant violation of what a Jedi is suppose to do. Not to mention a little dishonorable.

[Redwing]

Thanks, Deac.

BD:

Currently the Empire is disorganised, we had hoped Palpatine would not reapear for another six months or so. That would have allowed the Imperials to fully fragment and we would have been able to eliminate one War Lord at a time. If Palpatine has reapeared then we will have to find another way to win this war.

What War Lords? Those were the Separatists. Cracken annihilated them. (Or most of them.)

And the Empire is not that disorganized, and the disorganization that is there is because of Reletha. Destroying Reletha would have (and will still) simply strengthen the Empire and allow it to finish reorganizing.

[Cmdr. Cracken]

Redwqing speaks thy truth. Starr has been in control of the Loyalyst Faction of the Empire since Cracken left, and since Cracken's return, has ceeded power back to Cracken.

if i recall, the Seperatists during the Imperial Civil War were, rightly so, annihilated by the Loyalist Imperial Navy and Army, leaving Relentha to take control of the remaining few Seperatist forces, F. Irvine, and overthrow Corusant.

The Loyalists are ever organized, and loyal to the Emperor and his apprentice, and his children. There are no warlords in the Imperial Loyalists faction (Mine).

[BattleDog]

Okay, thats a lot of questions.

Admiral: Easy, Flax and the others intend to honour the treaty however the existance of a large Sith Empire can only be percieved as a persistant threat.

The only reason the Republic accepted the treaty to begin with was because it was on the ropes. No Sith is ever going to be trusted by the Republic or the Jedi. THese people aren't planning to betray anyone, they're preparing to be betrayed!

Flax, Sellenna, Hal, Kal, Mirra and Jammes are all Jedi.

Cracken, Redwing: This is simple political theory. The Empire was being controlled by the Apprentice, since the Empire is run through fear and power politics the absense of Cracken and the fact that Starr is running around doing stuff on the ground, not sat on a command chair in an SSD is going to begin to create a power gap.

Over time you would expect the Empire to begin to break down at the edges, as this happened the Republic could pick off these pieces without violating the treaty.

I'm not suggesting that this had happened, just that it was eventually going to and that the Republic was waiting and biding its time.

[Redwing]

BD: Ah, but Starr has only been running around on the ground since he left to 'retrieve' RH Irvine, and Luthen captured him.

Granted I never said (and don't know) how long he was on that SSD. But it couldn't have been too long.

Also, do note that the Empire's current holdings either A) joined voluntarily or B) chose to stay after Cracken's original conquests, choosing the Empire's order and stability over the continuing chaos of the New Republic. It's not like they're desparate to get away.

Deac:

Deac, about that blaster. (As I did think it out fully, since it's Aren's personal weapon. )

First of all, it's not an anti-cyborg blaster specifically; it just works on them as well. The idea behind it is that it can kill through any impact armor, by ignoring the armor and destroying organic/sensitive material.

Also, it's got a fairly short range before its 'charge' wears off, and the bullets move fairly slowly [for bullets], so no sniping with it.

[BattleDog]

Red, its political theory. The vacume has more to do with the fact that THERE IS NO EMPEROR.

With All this bare in mind that my characters are not privy to the motivations of other characters, as far as they are concerned Cracken is the son of the most evil man the Galaxy ever spawned and he's a self declared Sith to boot!

[Redwing]

I know it's theory, I was correcting a factual error in it.

I know the latter, too. I think I even pointed that out earlier, with Starr. XD

[Kuuki]

Yeah, but Starr could have only stated that Cracken sat on his 'throne' at a remote location, Korriban perhaps

Even anything Starr being the devil's advocate, everyone would see him more then they'd see the emperior

look at Vader, Maul and Dooku for examples

Starr could have just said that he was relaying the Emperoir's wishes/commands/orders/what-have-you

[Admiral]

I just have to chime in: BD right it is a political theory. Still doesn't mean it going to happen. if that was the case it would be a political law (like the theory of relativity vs the Law of energy conservation)

[BattleDog]

I never siad it would happen, only that it could and that the Republic was waiting for it to happen.

[Redwing]

Originally posted by jokemaster
Greer: Simmer silk for dress, got it. I think I'll rescue the Solos too, seeing as this will probably be easy compared to some other missions I've been on.

Man, Greer is just ASKING for something terrible to happen to him. This is like bait.

Unless it was sarcasm, and I missed it.

Okay, question on Coruscant mission: Deac, are you going to have your resistance group involved? [And are they even communicating with the rest of the NR?]

[jokemaster]

*SLAP*
Sarcasm.

[Deac]

The resistance group are cut off from Republic communications, save for a few messages they are able to smuggle on galactic mail ships [they still have them, there's a short story in "Tales from the Empire"] back to fleet command.