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Old 10-26-2004, 07:56 AM   #161
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Well Air Nazi would not be proper usage of the term in the Seinfeld context. Here's the fundamental difference:
  • I mass as much air force as possible. I don't mass spelling. Hence Air Whore.
  • I am militaristic about spelling. I am not militaristic about air forces. Hence Spelling Nazi.


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Old 10-26-2004, 09:03 AM   #162
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Sorry for the double post (I'm so touched that you noticed Viceroy, how observant of you). I knew somebody would say something and by somebody I mean you know who! Just kidding. After I posted I ran into (head first by the way) that new pic and had to let you good people know about it. I haven't seen the latest Insider magazine yet, but it looks to me that it is a scan of one of its pages. If I get a copy I'll confirm it and let you all know. I'm kind of disappointed, I think a dead Jedi on the council is a cool idea for a scene in the movie.

Maybe when Lucas releases ROTS to DVD he can change it to his definitive version and include it this time.

Oh, and your use of "Air Nazi" would not be correct, I'm afraid Viceroy, close, but quite right. And it is a title to bare proudly I would say, one of honor.


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Old 10-26-2004, 09:47 AM   #163
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I would be tempted to pack anyone who Claims to be proud of being an anything Nazi off to Nuremburg.

Then again that might not work since the Neo Nazi Party in Germany is on the ascendant again particularly in Eastern Germany.


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Old 10-26-2004, 12:23 PM   #164
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Then again that would clearly indicate you know nothing of Seinfeld, widely recognised as the greatest television show ever.

Nairb, if the caption is correct then I would say the shot is incomplete. I've realised that while the picture doesn't have the trademark "TV lines" of holograms, it also doesn't have the blue sparks on the aura of the image that ghosts have. So as of yet it can't really be determined to be one or the other: if it's a hologram ILM is yet to add the TV lines; if it is a ghost they are yet to add the blue aura.

One thing to think about though is the fact that holograms rarely fit into the environment - the closest we've seen is Sidious apparently sitting at the conference table on board the Droid Control Ship in The Phantom Menace, and even then it wasn't apparent that the hologram was "sitting" in the chair there. On the other hand ghosts (particularly Obi-Wan whilst discussing Leia in Return of the Jedi) have been known to interact with their environment in a normal way.

Just some more food for thought. My point is I don't think the case can be closed just yet on Ki-Adi-Mundi being either hologram or ghost. If he's a hologram it's far different from anything we've so far seen, if he's a ghost it is only a little bit different from what we've seen.


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Old 10-26-2004, 12:32 PM   #165
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However I still think it could be a Hologram the Jedi Council would obviosul;y have far beter technology than that put in a very old and possibly nearly obsolete model and after all what quality would you expect from something so small.

All i'm saying is that the jedi council would have better holo projectors.

Seinfield I don't think is broadcast in Europe So I can hardly have watched it.

Calling someone a Nazi in Europe is termed as a grave Insult particularly as of Late with the Neo Nazi Party on the rise again. I'm hearing a lot of predictions that the Neo Nazi's will control half of the German Reichstag in less than 20 years.


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Old 10-26-2004, 12:44 PM   #166
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All i'm saying is that the jedi council would have better holo projectors.
Unlikely. Not only have we had previous examples of the Jedi Council using holograms (which have the signature TV lines as I have described), but I find it very hard to believe that the Jedi Council has better holo projectors than the Emperor (as we can see the TV lines in his appearance in The Empire Strikes Back). If excellent holo projectors existed, surely they would have been installed in both the Emperor's Palace and Vader's room on the Executor.
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Seinfield I don't think is broadcast in Europe So I can hardly have watched it.
You poor deprived Europeans. As I said Seinfeld is widely regarded as the greatest show ever, so I find it's absence in Europe, and particularly in English-speaking UK, a little sad.
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Calling someone a Nazi in Europe is termed as a grave Insult
Of course it is. It is every where else in the world too. But no-one's calling anyone a Nazi, I'm being called a Spelling Nazi. The first word is essential to get the proper meaning. By the same token calling someone a whore is highly offensive but calling someone an Air Whore is not.


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Old 10-26-2004, 12:53 PM   #167
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and yet We "Poor" Europeans Don't Take The American Attitude

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We Suscribe to this stance

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I doubt we're missing out on anything especially since Pokemon has managed to crawl round the globe to Europe I can hear someone saying about bloody time, but hey what are we gonna do cry? NO I doubt we need a stupid TV show why do we brits need to watch telly when their are so few sunny days in this country where Perpetual Rain fall isn't viewed as strange.


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Old 10-26-2004, 01:02 PM   #168
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If you knew anything about Seinfeld, you'd know it too constantly makes fun of the "American" attitude. If you're rejecting it just because it's American then I really do pity you.

Then again when one of the most popular imported TV Shows in the UK is Neighbours, I guess there just isn't any accounting for British taste

But this is not the place to discuss Seinfeld, as great a show as it is. So just accept for a minute that you might be missing out on the second greatest piece of pop culture ever created (after Star Wars of course, which I might remind you is also American).


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Old 10-26-2004, 01:10 PM   #169
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Considering Since I revile most forms of Television Show I am immune to your pre-conceptions on British taste.

If someone erected a Gallows in the middle of a feild everyone in the surrounding area would flock their to see the executions it is human nature to watch others sufferings.

Why do you think such APPALLING soaps are widespread?

The only thing remotley like a soap I enjoyed watching was Micro Soap because it was about a family more accident Prone then mine Indeed my family is so accident prone every emergency service person knows us on a first name basis.

I detest American Politics and Military Methods I do not detest what comes out of america well I will make exceptions.

Star Wars is above any and all pety countires on this mortal coil so do not muddy the waters.

To associate Star Wars With American Politics is like Tossing Poision into the Fountain of Youth and Knowledge.


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Old 10-26-2004, 01:16 PM   #170
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All I'm asking is that you admit Seinfeld might be a great TV show, and you might be missing out. Since you've never seen it but those who have count it as the greatest show of all time, at least give it the benefit of the doubt.

Don't bad mouth it just because I like it.


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Old 10-26-2004, 01:26 PM   #171
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Considering Since I revile most forms of Television Show

Vostok Did you read what I said.

I Don't like many TV shows.

I've already Said I haven't heard of it.

The Apaling soaps of which I speak are Neighbours and it's Ilk

I Didn't Bad mouth Seinfidge or what ever it's called.

I'm not gonna admit it's a great show because I've never seen it and I never say what is good or bad about something I do not know of.


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Old 10-26-2004, 06:40 PM   #172
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I never asked you to say it was good. Read my post. I ask you to admit there is a possibility it is good. I even italicised the word "might".

This is why we argue so much, Viceroy. You're just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. Furthermore, you're pretending you've never heard of it to enfuriate me even more. I can't believe you're that ignorant to not have even heard of Seinfeld, and I'm sure that isn't true.

This discussion is over as far as I'm concerned. You really are a bit of a lost cause if you'll just argue for the sake of arguing. Maybe I should have left you on my ignore list; after all, you never apologised for insulting me unprovoked.


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Old 10-27-2004, 03:33 AM   #173
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I thought I apologised I'll do it now anyway

I'm Sorry

I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing I never admit something is or might be anything unless I know what I'm talking about it isn't in my nature. So i'm hardly doing to go against something that's always been one of my principals.

Truly I have never heard of Seinfield beofre it was mentioned here Even if it was on British TV it'd propbaly be DAYTIME television and of course TV's to watch what school would class as trashy TV in school are as rare as Hen's Teeth.

I'm not arguing for the sake of arguin All I'm saying is that people have different definitions of Greatest some Pathtetic people would Think Neighbours Desevres that Mantle. I Myself Am proud not to class myself as one of those idiots.


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Old 10-27-2004, 07:30 AM   #174
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I know people have different definitions of greatest. I'm not asking you to say it is the greatest. If you can't even admit there's a chance in hell it might be good I find that a little too stubborn.

And truly I do find it odd that you've never heard of it. It is an interesting snippet of how pop culture is completely different even in similar countries. Seinfeld has changed the world as much as Star Wars has - it revolutionised and reinvigorated television in the same way Star Wars revolutionised and reinvigorated cinema. Star Wars has certainly left it's mark on society - sci-fi films are always trying to live up to what Star Wars has done - and Seinfeld is much the same. Since Seinfeld ended, every single American sitcom produced has at least one recurring character that was in Seinfeld at some point (this is a theory I have - other consumers of American pop culture feel free to try and dispute this theory, I haven't found a single sitcom without an actor who has been in at least one Episode of Seinfeld).

So you see in the same way I pity those who haven't seen Star Wars (and I think you probably would too as do most Star Wars fans), I also pity those who haven't seen Seinfeld, as they're missing out on one of the most successful pieces of entertainment ever produced, that has left such a mark on society that to not have experienced it makes you an outsider.

And thanks for the apology.


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Old 10-27-2004, 08:46 AM   #175
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You two crack me up. It doesn't take much of anything to set you off at each other. But that's ok, not that there's anything wrong with that.

For a minute there I thought we were going to get into politics in this thread. I'm glad we didn't because there are other threads for that and I'd like to keep them there. there are a lot of old British "telly" shows that I enjoy. Faulty Towers, Are you being served. I know these are very old shows but I think they are hilarious. I used to watch them here on a PBS station that played their old reruns late at night. Funny stuff, very funny.

As for the resurgence of the Nazi party in Germany, bad idea. But don't worry old chap, we'll lend a hand if you need and want it.


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Old 10-27-2004, 09:36 AM   #176
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Actually the resurgant Nazi Party seems to have dropped all of the things that made it such a detestable party However they of course favour at least a partial dis-assembly of democracy.

AT present I would propably say that Americans interfering in Europe propably wouldn't come across very well because of the Well Known situation recently.

I Won't mention it because this place is at present a sacred sanctom free from political propoganda.

Some of those "old" British shows are still made especially Keeping Up with Apperances and the DREADED BUCKET WOMAN chuck her at any budding Adolf Hitler and he'd ben crying out for cyanide within 10 minutes.

Personally I prefer doing things outside and enjoying the abundant space and Nature that is the British Countryside.

Living on the Periphery of a major city/countryside gives you the best of both worlds.

Personally I liked Andromeda that didn't actually try to emulate a Star Wars like theme which I found profoundly refreshing.

is this Sanefidge anything like the infamous Jerry Springer since you don't have to have watched that to know it that is a very common example held up. Much like me and Imperium Galactica 2 which I think should be given the award of best RTS every created. Now if only Digital Reality was still around to make a PERFECT Imperium Galactica 3.

How paridoxical that the thread about the imminent death of the forum brings it back to life and becomes one of the most active in the place.


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Old 10-27-2004, 09:56 AM   #177
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Here here!!

Being outside and enjoy nature is one of life's great pleasures and luxuries. Not everyone can do it, nor do they know how to enjoy the outdoor. I am most fortunate to live right across the street from a beach, more or less on the Gulf of Mexico. I have made sure that I do what I can to give back to the environment here by volunteering my time by becoming a "Turtle Walker". During sea turtle season I walk a designated stretch of beach here on certain days and check for sea turtle nests. Its a great thing to do. It was fun until we had all of these hurricanes. But those were fun to, from a certain point of view.


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I Like where I live to.

I live in an area of outstanding natural beauty you look out the window and you see fields strech far out into the distance you can hear birds twiter and see horses dance around And when you go out the air is pure and clean and the sky is usually ( when it isn't raining) Pure blue with a nize breeze with it being nice and warm.

I think they should rename South Wellfield to The Garden Of Eden.

Who needs a telly when you can go out side and live life.

Isn't Florida on Hurricane Alley?


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Now I know you're calling it "Sanefidge" to annoy me. You can't deny you're doing that just to get me angry. And don't even mention Jerry Springer in the same sentence. Don't be lazy and look up Seinfeld using this fabulous invention called the Internet before you embarass yourself even more.

That's great you enjoy the outdoors. I don't mind it myself. But I can balance indoor and outdoor entertainment well enough to appreciate what each has to offer. Don't indirectly criticise me by bad mouthing TV. If Seinfeld isn't shown where you live, no wonder you don't watch TV.


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Seinfeld sucks Never liked it for some reason...


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I think I'm gomma withdraw from this conversation Before I loose my temper at having someone I SHOULD know about a TV Show especially when I think the majority of them are stupid.

Someone change the Topic from Loathsome Television to anything BUT politics.


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Sorry if I crossed the line. I was just hoping to educate you of this wonderful piece of entertainment. If someone had never heard of Star Wars, you'd want to educate them, right?


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Old 10-28-2004, 07:40 AM   #183
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I'd suggest they try out Star Wars But I wouldn't try to INDOCTRINATE THEM like some have tried to with regards to TV shows. If you try to force your opinion onto someone else you'll more than likely achive the opposite affect to what your after.

Then also is the Term Ignorance is Bliss and if you didn't like a TV show you may even go as far to say you would have better of not knowing about i.


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I'm hardly trying to indoctrinate you. I'm curious as to how you came to that conclusion.

Anyway, let's move the conversation more towards Star Wars, something we all know and appreciate. Is anyone here a member of Hyperspace (starwars.com's fan club)?


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I don't care for the fact that Hyperspace club exists.

It creates a group of elite within the star wars Comunity so I consider most Hyperspace Members Elitist and Facist.

However if they were to post a link to the EP 3 trailer My opinion could change especially in respects to them.


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I wouldn't go so far as to say it creates an elitest sub-class of Star Wars fans. However I'm not really of the opinion that it is really worth the money. If I was hugely interested in spoilers for ROTS I might think differently, but there isn't much grabbing my attention at the moment.

And I wouldn't be concerned about the trailer. It will be available for download from several sources only hours after it's Hyperspace release.


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Fascist?! Wth?!

Stop saying such bullcrap. You can hardly consider someone who pays 20$ for a year's subscription elitist or fascist.

I don't know how you can end up with such a ridiculous and downright stupid comparison.


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What about the snobs that go around saying "i've got hyperspace I'm beter than you"

Beleive me people like that exist and they deserve to be executed.


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I would agree with Lukesdad. I would also say that I have contemplated joining Hyperspace a few times, I mean its only 20 bucks. Then I realize everything that is on Hyperspace eventually and almost immediately comes here to the forums anyway so why bother. I think I haven't joined because it would required to much effort and its a waste of twenty dollars, in my opinion. If you want spoilers, go to the spoiler thread, they have lots of pictures and things like that. Or pick up the occasional Star Wars Insider magazine. (Or just flip through it on the magazine rack)


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What about the snobs that go around saying "i've got hyperspace I'm beter than you"

Beleive me people like that exist and they deserve to be executed.
How many do you think they are? All of them? A majority? Fallacy. Just because some Hyperspace member pissed you off doesn't mean all of them are snobs. They're not the majority I can tell you that, in fact, it's safe to say they're a very small minority. Attacking Hyperspace won't let them go away.

If you're wondering, no I'm not a Hyperspace member. I just defend them against your fallacious accusations.


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I have never met a member that seemed t be snobbish in the least bit. I don't even think that I have met many members, that I am aware of however.


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Old 10-29-2004, 09:26 AM   #192
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I don't care for the fact that Hyperspace club exists.

It creates a group of elite within the star wars Comunity so I consider most Hyperspace Members Elitist and Facists
Not really. In fact, Hyperspace is included in the official fan club now, which is also included in a SW Insider subscription. Once my Insider subscriptions ends, I can renew, and get Hyperspace as part of the deal.

As it is now, Hyperspace isn't worth it, but since it's included in the deal, I have no complaints.
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I have to agree with Luke's Dad here.

I suggest you look up the definition of Fascist, Viceroy, and henceforth stop using it in ways that make it obvious that you don't know what it means.


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Like I have said elsewhere words often end up aquiring an additional meaning Facist has acehived the secondary meaning of being an insult with respects to being Snobish mean cruel and a few other things.

Let's see let's migrate to another topic Let us see.

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Stick to the usual definitions of the word so nobody can be confuse by what you post.


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Well, that wouldn't be a bad deal then if you get Insider, Hyperspace and the Fan Club. What does that cost you?

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Viceroy, you could just admit that you're wrong once in a while instead of making lame excuses.

EDIT: This just in - I probably won't be able to play at all this weekend. Maybe on Sunday, but no promises.


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When I walked downsatirs last night my mum was on Bid up TV and I saw they were selling Seinfiled DVD's and they showed a clip and it looks like Freinds more than anything else. a bit tacky and cliche but looks like a rip off of friends.


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Dude...Seinfeld was on the air before Friends...and it really isn't a Friends' rip-off nor is Friends a rip-off of Seinfeld. There just both sitcoms.


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looks like Freinds more than anything else

I said LOOKS since I've never seen Seinfield beforee that short clip I can't say for certain that's why i said LOOKS.


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