Woah, Missing Threads Everywhere!

razorace · 07-08-2005, 01:26 PM

Hi guys, I'm not sure you're aware of it but the OJP Forums over in the jediknight section just lost at least a month's worth of messages and threads. Is there anyway those threads could be recovered? Their contents were fairly important.

Thanks!

***matt--*** · 07-08-2005, 01:37 PM

Unfortunately it looks as though everything since June 11th was lost.

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Here's the chronical of the past few days as I understand it.

After having consistent downtime and what have you, we ordered a new forum server.

The new server, while good, consistently had problems with its httpd which was diagnosed as a hardware fault.

The server eventually died, along with all the local backups (most recent).

An attempt was made to get remote backups from the old forum server, as they'd be the most recent set after the local copies.

More hard drive AND configuration issues with the original server due to our host.

In the end we had to copy over the raw data tables and dump/insert everything anew from a the original database from the original server.

We switched server companies, bought a separate from everything remote backup service in addition to the regular backups we make to our own hard drives.

*Kurgan* · 07-08-2005, 03:26 PM

Crap, who was this lemon we got stuck with so we can warn people not to sign up for it?

**Prime** · 07-08-2005, 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by Kurgan
Crap, who was this lemon we got stuck with so we can warn people not to sign up for it?

With the way things are going, you could say the same about Lucasforums.

razorace · 07-08-2005, 05:35 PM

Well, that sucks. At least we didn't lose everything. Thanks for working on this.

*T7nowhere* · 07-08-2005, 07:52 PM

SO is it confirmed that the threads from the last 30 days are lost or is there a possibility of retrieval.

If there lost then I have a few threads I have to make *sigh*

Oh well, its great to have LF back up, to those that made it happen, thanks.

***Aristotle*** · 07-08-2005, 08:05 PM

It's really a question of whether our previous host can gather any data off the fried drive. We lost both a main drive and backup drive, but luckily we had a third version on a different server...

The good news in all of this is that we moved to a monster new server. This server is probably 3-5x faster and more powerful than our last server.

In addition, this move should fix all the downtime we were experiencing the past few weeks as we struggled with some apparently faulty hardware. It was driving us nuts to wake up each morning and find the forums down.

We think this should solve everything and we've also purchased a remote backup storage area totally seperate from the forums and LFNetwork in general which should also make sure we never lose anymore data.

So yes, we'll of course keep trying... but in the meantime enjoy the new hardware. I don't think I've ever seen the forums running so fast... it's a good thing in the end.

Ari

shukrallah · 07-08-2005, 08:11 PM

Yeah, even my dial up seems slightly faster.

I guess I should change my avatar and sig back to normal...

Darth Andrew · 07-08-2005, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by lukeskywalker1
I guess I should change my avatar and sig back to normal...

I tried changing my old ugly avatar, but it won't work, although I managed to switch back to my newer sig. And a shoutout to all those who got the forums up and running faster than ever!

shukrallah · 07-08-2005, 08:34 PM

Just figured that out, and posted a thread. More people will want to update their avatars, so... at least they can read about it in my thread or this one.

TiE23 · 07-08-2005, 11:20 PM

June 11th? Woah! We've been sent back in time! *Que dramatic hero music*

TiE

Astrotoy7 · 07-08-2005, 11:57 PM

man, I hope this isnt my fault, with that thread that got 328,000 viewings

I made that thread right after ep3 and thats when all this bunk started

admins, i can be a scapegoat if you need one

mtfbwya

**SkinWalker** · 07-09-2005, 12:21 PM

Upgrade to the latest version of vBulletin, and I suspect that much will be forgiven!

Seriously, though, a version upgrade would offer some cool options for the member as well as improve the overall look/feel and, if I'm not mistaken, the newer versions have improved handling of the databases, yes?

Still, my hat's off to you guys (Aristotle, Matt, et al) for keeping LucasForums going...

***Aristotle*** · 07-09-2005, 12:39 PM

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Upgrade to the latest version of vBulletin, and I suspect that much will be forgiven!

Oh... you have no idea how much is going on behind the scenes to finish up the tweaks on the html and bring vb 3.0 live.

The crew is working very, very hard to make all the current html code designs vb 3.0 compliant.

I suspect we'll be live with 3.0 in a week or two...

Stay tuned...

**SkinWalker** · 07-09-2005, 01:22 PM

Dude. You rock.

Darth Andrew · 07-09-2005, 02:35 PM

Erm, what does all of this vBulletin mumbo-jumbo mean? LucasForums is extremely fast from the new upgrade already, so what would this vb 3.0 thingie do to the forums?

***Aristotle*** · 07-09-2005, 02:49 PM

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Erm, what does all of this vBulletin mumbo-jumbo mean? LucasForums is extremely fast from the new upgrade already, so what would this vb 3.0 thingie do to the forums?

Well, there's a LOT more options available to members with version 3.0. Too many to even mention.

In addition, upgrading to version 3.0 would make the forums even faster as it's much less reliant upon certain processes that the current version uses.

Nothing will really change other than having many more options and bells and whistles... better searches, quick posts, etc.

Unfortunately none of the "styles" you see on each forum transfer to version 3.0 .. so we have to create each style (html design) from scratch again for version 3.0. This is what some members are working hard on...

If you want to see what the new forum page will look like, click on lfnetwork.com and you'll see the screenshot of what the front page will change to.

We think folks will be very, very pleased when we're all done.

Vikinor · 07-09-2005, 03:16 PM

Aristotle. I just want to hug you forever.

But seriously. I don't know, how do you and the others do all that stuff.

***Aristotle*** · 07-09-2005, 04:01 PM

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But seriously. I don't know, how do you and the others do all that stuff.

We have a great community. All you guys make us want to keep the network going.

Even though we all have real life, full-time jobs or school, we keep plugging away at it since in the end it's still fun for us.

By the way.. thanks for all the nice compliments you guys have been handing out lately, and of course we certainly appreciate everyone's understanding about the hardware crash. We're all pretty pumped about this new system though. Speedy little devil.

Hard to believe we're at 7 years and counting with LFN... boy, we're getting old.

edlib · 07-09-2005, 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by SkinWalker
Still, my hat's off to you guys (Aristotle, Matt, et al) for keeping LucasForums going...

Hear, hear!!!

3 cheers for the Admins (and Mods!)

Hip hip, Hurrah! Hip hip, Hurrah! Hip hip ...

Seriously, thank you all for keeping it going this long, keeping control over it even when it grew to this terrific size so rapidly, and keeping it free the entire time.

It's all an awful lot to ask from volunteers.

Mex · 07-10-2005, 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by Aristotle
I suspect we'll be live with 3.0 in a week or two...

Wow, thats great news for all of us. Thanks to the admins/super mods/mods for helping to keep this place alive and kicking, and keeping it rid of trolls and likes, everyone around here appreciates it. Even if they don't want to say it.

*James Isaac* · 07-11-2005, 02:29 AM

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Originally posted by Aristotle
Oh... you have no idea how much is going on behind the scenes to finish up the tweaks on the html and bring vb 3.0 live.

The crew is working very, very hard to make all the current html code designs vb 3.0 compliant.

I suspect we'll be live with 3.0 in a week or two...

Stay tuned...

Wow, that's great news

RC-1162 · 07-11-2005, 05:43 AM

so does that mean that we get the posts, post count and threads back?

shukrallah · 07-11-2005, 09:45 AM

I don't think so, but... we get a better forum!

Murray the Chao · 07-11-2005, 06:48 PM

Will we EVER get those posts back?

Vikinor · 07-11-2005, 06:51 PM

Aristotle said that they were working on it. Give them some time.

**Prime** · 07-11-2005, 09:38 PM

I would say most likely not, but does it really matter? It just means we can talk about the same things over again.

RC-1162 · 07-12-2005, 05:50 AM

which is extremly annoying and boring. knowing that you had the same conversation just a few days ago.

**Prime** · 07-12-2005, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by Darth Band
which is extremly annoying and boring. knowing that you had the same conversation just a few days ago.

Which of course you realize you don't have to.

Vikinor · 07-12-2005, 08:30 PM

Just for the sake of not having to talk about stuff you previously talked about, we need that data back!

**Prime** · 07-12-2005, 10:03 PM

Quit worrying about post count guys. You'll just drive yourselves insane.

razorace · 07-12-2005, 10:38 PM

Yes, wisdom, they lack.

Fortnox · 07-13-2005, 02:12 PM

eh post count smost count, the thing im worrying about is that all the SWknights editiing forums are locked :S part of the same problem?

***Darth333*** · 07-13-2005, 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by Fortnox
[...]the thing im worrying about is that all the SWknights editiing forums are locked :S part of the same problem?

No: they were locked on purpose and only mods can post new tutorials there. We wanted to avoid having the relevant info spread out all around in a 10 page thread. In fact most of the tutorials there are a clean up of old threads. We just extracted the relevant info and made the tuts.

However, you are most welcomed to make new tutorials and post them in the general forums: we encourage all the members to participate. We will make a copy of the tutorial thread and move it in the locked section. You can also send us tuts in word or text format and we can post them as attachements too.

Also, if you want to discuss an existing tutorial, ask a question or propose any addition/ modification, feel free to do so in the general forums

Fortnox · 07-13-2005, 02:41 PM

thanks

Murray the Chao · 07-14-2005, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by VikingLarz
Just for the sake of not having to talk about stuff you previously talked about, we need that data back!

Yeah, and to revive Mojo, mainly the Pyschonauts section.

shukrallah · 07-14-2005, 06:27 PM

It has been almost one full week, and I am sure they are working as fast as they can, but after this ammount of time I doubt those posts will return. Which is cool, cause none of it was really important anyways, and if it was, it will be reposted.

I just wish people would make more threads in the swamp, lol.