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Old 01-24-2006, 06:56 PM   #121
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Don't be so ready to call them "morons." Merely, not as informed as we are.

After all, EVERY time somebody likes a game, they almost always hope for a sequel, and turn that hope into a "is there a rumor" type thread. See the Battlefront 3 thread, the Republic Commando 2 threads, etc. Heck the SWBF3 one came out shortly after the first game came out! People demand sequels to games they like, it never fails...

I agree though, we don't need a sequel just for the sake of a sequel. It should be worthy of the series, and not something rushed or done half-way. We don't need a rehash, but something special. I personally think there's plenty of potential in the series, such as exploring the Dark Side angle, expanding on the ideas begun in the "siege" gametype of JA, and bringing back the "morality scale" and other underutilized ideas introduced earlier in the series. Some people think too one-dimensionally with this and assume that we either have to get rid of Kyle Katarn or make it an entirely saber based game and since that would be boring and divergent, then we should give up on the series.

Of course it's really out of our hands, since LucasArts gets to decide if there's to be a sequel or not, and when, and by whom.

Frankly I think JA and JK2 DID (and do) compete with other FPS games. I'm not sure which games you mean that are only competing with other Star Wars games (Battlefront series perhaps? Republic Commando?). Even as pure FPS games, the JK series is amazing. I'm concerned with the multiplayer aspect, but even in those areas, the two recent titles are very much within the FPS tradition. It's more recent titles, outside the JK series that have failed I think.

Yet, supposed "bare bones" FPS games that are extremely hyped and popular still "Fall down" in terms of features. Compare say Doom3 with Unreal Tournament. How feature rich is Quake IV compared to UT2k4? There's something to be said about marketing potential. Anyway, yeah, what else needs to be said here...?

We could lock this one, but you're right, somebody else will just ask again in a few weeks.


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Old 01-25-2006, 10:32 AM   #122
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Any chance of stickifying this thread Mr. K?
Is there any point? I thought these rumors were unfounded...



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Old 01-25-2006, 02:23 PM   #123
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Hopefully, stickying it would stop people from posting new threads on it every other week. And when they inevitably do post a new one anyway, we can a) link it easily as it's on the front page, and b) point out to them that it's actually on the first page.

It seems to be a recurrent topic, so I thought stickying might be a bit of a solution. (we could do with a parsepacket_entities one as well, didn't there used to be one?)




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Old 01-25-2006, 02:26 PM   #124
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Old 01-25-2006, 03:30 PM   #125
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Bah, I was already thinking when I saw this post being a sticky, that you did it because there would be real rumours
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Old 01-25-2006, 03:40 PM   #126
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Hopefully, stickying it would stop people from posting new threads on it every other week. And when they inevitably do post a new one anyway, we can a) link it easily as it's on the front page, and b) point out to them that it's actually on the first page.

It seems to be a recurrent topic, so I thought stickying might be a bit of a solution. (we could do with a parsepacket_entities one as well, didn't there used to be one?)
And hopefully at some point there will be some rumors about a new Jedi Knight game.



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Old 02-23-2006, 08:02 PM   #127
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More hopefully there will be some facts about a new Jedi Knight game.


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Old 02-23-2006, 08:58 PM   #128
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Old 02-26-2006, 10:12 PM   #129
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Old 03-13-2006, 05:34 PM   #130
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Hi Guys,

i know you are pushing to get this thread closed but...

I would also like to see a new JK game and i would like 2 things:
Maybe you guys will agree or fight with me.
1. I really think that if we can have a JK game like Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion or Gothic or etc. this would be great.... now wait before you crap all over me. What i mean is, imagine a Star Wars world as big as Elder Scrolls with a living world and npc that go around their business and you are a Young Jedi in this world, you can shape you own destiny and do just what you want when you want like in elder scrolls IV Oblivion. Imagine traveling to planets and meeting all kinds of nps's good and evil, imagine turning to good or the dark side and fighting for them. There is so much possibilities in this if it is a open ender RPG where you do what you want. LucasArts could maybe even give this to Bethesda to design. But in this whole RPG game the fighting must stay the same where you fight yourself. I choose this. I thing that Star Wars Galaxies and KOTOR and KOTOR II would have had better success if people fought themselve and not just choose the action. It must be like the JK games. This rules. That is what makes the game and that is the fighting by yourself.
2. I do not want this one but i will settle for this point if i cannot get point 1.
The next JK should at least be much longer. JKA was really very short and was not worth the money if you talk about the levels. The fighting is worth it. It could do with a better story like in JK2 Jedi Outcast. And they should keep it basic Jedi versus Sith and not bring out stuff that was not in the Star Wars Sagas or movies. This is afterall that made it great. If they do things like some guys did in there mods then it will fail. Stick to basics. They could also improve the lightsaber moves and battles.

I really think we should start a poll and list these kind of ideas and then give this to LucasArts. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Thanks for listening and thats it.

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Old 03-14-2006, 10:43 AM   #131
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The jedi knight series are good like they are now. And I think you better play star wars galaxies
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Old 03-14-2006, 01:17 PM   #132
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The jedi knight series are good like they are now. And I think you better play star wars galaxies
Obviously you did not read what i said.
I played Star Wars Galaxies and it sucks, WHY???????????? As i said before!!!!

YOU CANNOT FIGHT YOURSELF, THE GAME FIGHTS FOR YOU. Where is the fun in that and that is where Star Wars Galaxies went wrong. It would have been great if the fighting was like Jedi Knight series. Plus Star Wars Galaxies is a online game, i want it single player like Jedi Knight.

Do you understand now what i mean?

Have you played Elder Scrolls?? If so then you will understand the freedom you had and it is a single player game and not online.

I have a problem with online games because you must pay for the game and also a monthly subscription. WHat a rip off.

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Old 03-14-2006, 03:37 PM   #133
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Hi Guys,

i know you are pushing to get this thread closed but...

I would also like to see a new JK game and i would like 2 things:
Maybe you guys will agree or fight with me.
1. I really think that if we can have a JK game like Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion or Gothic or etc. this would be great.... now wait before you crap all over me. What i mean is, imagine a Star Wars world as big as Elder Scrolls with a living world and npc that go around their business and you are a Young Jedi in this world, you can shape you own destiny and do just what you want when you want like in elder scrolls IV Oblivion. Imagine traveling to planets and meeting all kinds of nps's good and evil, imagine turning to good or the dark side and fighting for them. There is so much possibilities in this if it is a open ender RPG where you do what you want. LucasArts could maybe even give this to Bethesda to design. But in this whole RPG game the fighting must stay the same where you fight yourself. I choose this. I thing that Star Wars Galaxies and KOTOR and KOTOR II would have had better success if people fought themselve and not just choose the action. It must be like the JK games. This rules. That is what makes the game and that is the fighting by yourself.
2. I do not want this one but i will settle for this point if i cannot get point 1.
The next JK should at least be much longer. JKA was really very short and was not worth the money if you talk about the levels. The fighting is worth it. It could do with a better story like in JK2 Jedi Outcast. And they should keep it basic Jedi versus Sith and not bring out stuff that was not in the Star Wars Sagas or movies. This is afterall that made it great. If they do things like some guys did in there mods then it will fail. Stick to basics. They could also improve the lightsaber moves and battles.

I really think we should start a poll and list these kind of ideas and then give this to LucasArts. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Thanks for listening and thats it.

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Old 03-15-2006, 02:54 PM   #134
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A man after my own heart. As I have said many times on many forums they need to make a game with a KOTOR stroryline (which is deep) and Jedi Knight action (which is intense). The sad thing is they won't. They are raking in the dough with that disappointing unfinished KOTOR II so there is no need for them to make anything else. They have other money vaccums as well in the form of Battlefront II (which from what i hear is a BIG success) and the soon to be released LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy (which if it's as good as the 1st will be a hit). So we just have to mod the current games we have to death.
Thank you for the words and i agree with you about KOTOR story but JK fighting. This rules. I just wish more people would mod JKA games.

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Old 03-15-2006, 04:49 PM   #135
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There's plenty of people moding JKA, there's just not enough players playing said mods.


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Old 03-15-2006, 04:51 PM   #136
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yep and most players are lazy and wont even download a map, sadly this is one of the few fps' where i have seen this, almost all others i see ppl downloading mods and maps like crazy =/


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Old 03-15-2006, 06:35 PM   #137
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Who do YOU know? I know a lot of people including myself thta d.l a LOT of maps for JA. Maps, skins & hilts. So much so that we have to take some out from time to time.


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Old 03-15-2006, 08:31 PM   #138
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lol? back in the days of chop shop many ppl were too lazy to download the custom maps, some did yes, but still the only client mod ppl download is JA+ for the most part which is sad because it has too many kiddie anims and gp changes. and pluginDisable doesnt excuse it.


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Old 03-16-2006, 01:22 AM   #139
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Ensiform and Razorace are completely correct.

The JA community is mostly composed of morons.


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Old 03-16-2006, 01:26 AM   #140
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Just out of sheer morbid curiosity: Did you intend to say anything, or did you just feel like being inflammatory?



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Old 03-16-2006, 02:24 AM   #141
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Huh? I wasn't referring to anyone in the thread.


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Old 04-01-2006, 05:47 PM   #142
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Old 04-01-2006, 07:10 PM   #143
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Old 04-02-2006, 01:44 PM   #144
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Maybe he meant that MotS storyline is the only one with a future in sequels in his opinion.

Anyway, it was April Fool's Day, so he may not have been entirely serious? Who knows.

Can we keep this one alive with anymore silly posts? Just checking... heh


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Old 04-02-2006, 08:16 PM   #145
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Old 04-02-2006, 09:06 PM   #146
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Old 04-06-2006, 07:28 AM   #148
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If they do end up making a new JK game I would like to see some more open game play (maybe in the line of massive maps like those in GTA style games or even KOTOR, where you can choose when you handle major story based missions and whether you want to handle smaller missions, like bounty hunter missions or small quests), but I would like it if they would keep the current style of combat. After all these are not RPG games they are of a more action based genre. I would also like to see a more advanced system for vehicles, something along the lines of what they have for Battlefront 2. If they make the games more open like this, then it would also provide for a longer, more involved SP game experience.

The only other thing I would like to see is a more advance character customization system, with more species and the ability to alter facial features, clothing, tattoos, and physical attributes like strength and weight. Also, it would be nice if you could actually build and customize your own saber, rather than just choosing from already constructed designs from the game designers.

Of course, if they were to actually make a game like this it would be massive. Most likely involving three to four discs for installation at least. But I am sure that such a gaming experience would be great.


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If they do end up making a new JK game I would like to see some more open game play (maybe in the line of massive maps like those in GTA style games or even KOTOR, where you can choose when you handle major story based missions and whether you want to handle smaller missions, like bounty hunter missions or small quests), but I would like it if they would keep the current style of combat. After all these are not RPG games they are of a more action based genre. I would also like to see a more advanced system for vehicles, something along the lines of what they have for Battlefront 2. If they make the games more open like this, then it would also provide for a longer, more involved SP game experience.

The only other thing I would like to see is a more advance character customization system, with more species and the ability to alter facial features, clothing, tattoos, and physical attributes like strength and weight. Also, it would be nice if you could actually build and customize your own saber, rather than just choosing from already constructed designs from the game designers.

Of course, if they were to actually make a game like this it would be massive. Most likely involving three to four discs for installation at least. But I am sure that such a gaming experience would be great.
Personally I like the "arcade style" vehicles of JA, but I agree they could be better. Still, using SWBF2 as a model is problematic. Those vehicles are SLOOOW. Compare to SWBF1, where they at least had cockpit HUD views and first/third person view. Granted, in JA vehicles forced you into third person (unless you resorted to trickiness with the firstperson lightsaber command!). But essentially SWBF2 eliminated cockpit views (except for zooming gunners on some vehicles), slowed down and nerfed them all, and only added a "dash" or the aireal tricks for airborne vehicles. Also the controls for many of them sucked. Compare the HORRIBLE speeder bike from SWBF1/2 to the awesome fun Swoop bike from JA. No contest! Sure it's nice to have two people inside an AT-ST in SWBF1, but that second person just gets to fire the single shot slow reloading blaster, and you get no rockets! Plus the camera view sucks, even if you get to "turn the head" (in JA MP you couldn't turn the head, only fire in the direction you were facing, unlike in Single Player, but frankly the MP version was more fun for some reason).


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Old 04-07-2006, 12:52 AM   #150
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I Just thought of something. How about not a sequil but an expansion pack? It would continue the story. Like if you were evil Jaden then you would try and build your empire, or if you were good jaden you would fight against another evil. The possiblitys are endless. Also I would also like more customisation. Like you could be a zamarak and a kel dor MALE. Or some other speices. Like there would be another disc just for customisation. There would be the best customisation since starwars galaxys!


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Old 04-07-2006, 02:15 AM   #151
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Not a bad idea, but that would be better as a Jedi knight 4. That way, there would be no need to have both installed (though most of us would! ). Also, that way anyone who joins the series late can get an understanding of what's going on without having to buy two games.

And no, guys, let's not get into another discussion about "Is JA JK3 or a JO expansion pack". That's for another thread, which I imagine will be closed swiftly for bringing up an old topic. I think it's JK3. Deal with it.



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Old 04-09-2006, 02:31 AM   #152
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What ever i think thats best. But yeah I would like to be a customised zamarak with reborn clothing and a face design but i guess I have to play starwars galaxys a little more to get that.


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If and when they do release a JK4 they had best release it with a Linux server file as well.

I want to slap the daylights out of them for releasing BattleFront II without linux server files. I'll be damned if I'm going to waste my money on a windows based host. *vomits*

So for folks like Amidala who are in contact with the creators, please ask them to include the linux server files when they release a game that can be played multiplayer.


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Old 04-24-2006, 01:25 PM   #154
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jk3 maybe at this years E3! keep your fingers crossed

E3 will be held on May 10-12, 2006 in the Los Angeles Convention Center. Let's hope lucas will be annoucing a sequel to the jk series. I think enough time has passed since Mar 26, 2002 when jko was originally released.

Here are the relsease dates for past games


1) Star Wars Dark Forces (PC) Feb 28, 1995



2) Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II (PC) --Sep 30, 1997

Star Wars Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith (PC) -- Jan 31, 1998 (its expansion)




3) -Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast (PC) -- Mar 26, 2002

Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy (PC) -- Sep 17, 2003 (its expansion)



4) jedi knight 3 tis year???


4 years have passed since jko came out. If they were to annouce the start of a new project now, we could have it in a year or so maybe?





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If and when they do release a JK4 they had best release it with a Linux server file as well.

I want to slap the daylights out of them for releasing BattleFront II without linux server files. I'll be damned if I'm going to waste my money on a windows based host. *vomits*

So for folks like Amidala who are in contact with the creators, please ask them to include the linux server files when they release a game that can be played multiplayer.
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If there will be another JK game (I hope there will be) It NEEDS to be for the nintendo revolution! Although it wouldn't be modable, the controller would match the game! the gyroscope in it would let you use it like a lightsaber!


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Old 04-25-2006, 03:55 AM   #156
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2) Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II (PC) --Sep 30, 1997
I thought it was Oct. 9, 1997? For a long time I thought it was Oct 7th, but the real date seems to be 9th as attested to on many sites on the net. The game had so many delays, a lot of incorrect dates were listed so maybe that's why you posted that one? I'm talking the official release date here.

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Star Wars Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith (PC) -- Jan 31, 1998 (its expansion)
I could have sworn it came out the first week of February, it was delayed as well, maybe that's why?


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4) jedi knight 3 tis year???
We can only hope! If it gets announced at E3, I'll certainly be surprised though. I would have thought we'd have heard at least a rumor by now. But I will be pleased nonetheless if it happens. Here's hoping...

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4 years have passed since jko came out. If they were to annouce the start of a new project now, we could have it in a year or so maybe?
Wow, how time flies! Seems like only yesterday...


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Old 04-27-2006, 07:49 AM   #157
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Thumbs up once again ..

GL said Star wars new TV Serise is coming this end of year also He said one of Original cast from Movie too (gues who ??)
so next JK game coming on same time or after TV star wars is hit ..
of course Star wars TV serise is going to hit so lot of new Jedi Kight story game is coming too ...
do you believe my Force sense ?



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Old 05-07-2006, 02:58 AM   #158
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If there will be another JK game (I hope there will be) It NEEDS to be for the nintendo revolution! Although it wouldn't be modable, the controller would match the game! the gyroscope in it would let you use it like a lightsaber!
A taste of things to come? http://www.gametrailers.com/player.p...pe=wmv&pl=game


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The "Vader Game" is rumoured to be a new JK game.


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That would be stupid.
Just like Star wars galaxies it would go back in time, wich wasn't a succes at all.
They need to go forward, not backwards.
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