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Stick with the 'Hawk 98 46.23%
Ok if we get another ship, but prefer the Hawk 45 21.23%
I don't really care 7 3.30%
Prefer to have another ship, but ok with Hawk 41 19.34%
Must get a different ship 21 9.91%
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Old 11-22-2005, 04:47 PM   #81
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Good suggestion and while they're at let's see if the Hawk can have hydraulic lifts and bounce around with the bling bling.

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Old 12-04-2005, 12:41 PM   #82
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New ship, with spinning hydrothruster rims, purple furry seats, tinted windows, cool black/purple paint job, Neon lights, Hydrolics (for a bumpy ride). Basically pimp my wheelchair but pimp my starship.


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Old 12-04-2005, 12:52 PM   #83
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Hydrolics? You would be in space. And purple? I'm sorry, I just can't imagine that for a galaxy saving/conquering person.

Besides, what kind of a starship would that be? Your person isn't a galaxy famous celebrity; half of the players wouldn't be female, either (I couldn't imagine a male flying this).

No offense, of course. But somehow I don't see that happening...
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Old 12-04-2005, 01:12 PM   #84
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Lets just stick with the Ebon Hawk. taking out the Hawk would be like replacing the Milenium falcon after ESB and bringing in a new ship for ROTJ


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Old 12-05-2005, 01:09 PM   #85
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Ditto. Oh and Rob, I was being sarcastic. To change the Ebon Hawk like that is like desecrating a church.

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Old 12-06-2005, 12:18 AM   #86
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Actually I was talking to Nuitari or whatever the name is, but thanks for letting me know too JediMaster12. Yeah, mega dittos on all that you have said. Ilwugoalie's right, I've said it before; getting rid of the Ebon Hawk would be like getting rid of the Millenium Falcon in RotJ, with no appearence of it. You could say the same for T3 and HK, actually; What would RotJ be if 3PO and R2 dissappeared or got killed in the beginning?
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Old 12-06-2005, 03:38 PM   #87
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Got a point there. I saw the droids as comic relief. Without them, another boring flick in spite of all the action.

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Old 12-07-2005, 10:43 PM   #88
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I say definately stick with the [IHawk[/I]. What I would like to see though are ship improvements that you can buy at some point.

If things work like in KotOR with the random chance of being intercepted by Sith fighters, you could have upgrades for Armour, Guns, Engines etc. Maybe as a gift for you helping out, someone could give you some fluffy dice for the dash as well?


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Old 12-08-2005, 02:12 AM   #89
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I voted for the "Ok if we get another ship, but prefer the Hawk" option.

But, I definitely think the Hawk should be used at least some in the next game. It would make sense to me, if you weren't playing Revan or The Exile, that you start out in some other ship, but later join up with the Exile and/or Revan who are/is using the Ebon Hawk.
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Old 12-10-2005, 12:53 PM   #90
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I say definately stick with the [IHawk[/I]. What I would like to see though are ship improvements that you can buy at some point.

If things work like in KotOR with the random chance of being intercepted by Sith fighters, you could have upgrades for Armour, Guns, Engines etc. Maybe as a gift for you helping out, someone could give you some fluffy dice for the dash as well?
That could be an option but what of the turrets? THe supposed original owner of the Hawk said that it was sluggish when it came to fast moving fighters. Improvements on the hyperdrive could help, give it a bit more power. As for the fluffy dice, put those in a pimped out ride on four wheels.

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Old 12-10-2005, 01:49 PM   #91
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I could live with a new ship, too, but prefer the Hawk. The new ship would have to have a higher Cool Factor (tm) than the Hawk, though. Hey, if you're going to get a new ship, it may as well look and run better....
I'm with DarkExcalibur42--If keeping the Hawk, I think it'd be fun to go on a (side) quest for some new parts ("You need to go find a Raniskran for the Hyperdrive before you can go to the Unknown Regions--the only place I know to find a Raniskran is on Corellia. Erlin Solo smuggles one out every now and then. Watch out for the Hutts...."). Then have those parts make a real improvement on the ship's performance (outrunning fighters? Mow through them faster? Making it through the asteroid field easier? that kind of stuff).
Or you could just get some new curtains to match those fluffy dice in the dash....


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Old 12-11-2005, 05:49 AM   #92
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Wassamatter with a purple space ship, every badass dude has a purple spaceship if Mr T was in Starwars hed have a purple spaceship with gold rims and what do you mean no hydrolics. Yea i like the thought of fluffy dice though pink ones with a ink tree airfreshner very cool.


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Old 12-12-2005, 01:55 PM   #93
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Wassamatter with a purple space ship, every badass dude has a purple spaceship if Mr T was in Starwars hed have a purple spaceship with gold rims and what do you mean no hydrolics. Yea i like the thought of fluffy dice though pink ones with a ink tree airfreshner very cool.
Because we like the Hawk the way it is. Your ship is actually a space pimp's dream ship.

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Old 12-12-2005, 02:54 PM   #94
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it is the hawk a new and improved hawk. Like action man everyone likes action man but every time he needs something new like a torpedo gun or a space buggy. So the hawk needs something new about it...


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Old 12-12-2005, 03:31 PM   #95
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^It does not need that as something new about it.

Come on, Nuitari, I'm sorry, but that idea... Just think about the phrase "shaming the KotOR series". You are a Jedi Knight/Sith Knight trying to save/conquer the galaxy; You aren't a galactic celebrity.

What you are talking about would make the Hawk some frilly little toy ship- not quite what the poor Hawk should be turned into, it would ruin KotOR. Even if you do think it looks cool.
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Old 12-12-2005, 07:28 PM   #96
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Come on, Nuitari, I'm sorry, but that idea... Just think about the phrase "shaming the KotOR series". You are a Jedi Knight/Sith Knight trying to save/conquer the galaxy; You aren't a galactic celebrity.
That's true. You don't see a copy of Who's Who's in the Republic with a picture of a Jedi.

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What you are talking about would make the Hawk some frilly little toy ship- not quite what the poor Hawk should be turned into, it would ruin KotOR. Even if you do think it looks cool.
Mega dittos

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Old 12-12-2005, 08:39 PM   #97
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I like the Ebon Hawk and think it's a cool ship. I'm not opposed to seeing it again in a future KotOR game. However I would like a better explanation of how the EH made it through the crash on Malachor V and was able to escape M5's destruction. I just don't buy the EH crash landing on the planet and then being able to fly off before M5 explodes. If the devs can't come up with something (and I think that would be tough to do) then it's time to come up with a new ship.


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Old 12-15-2005, 03:09 PM   #98
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has anyone ever played skies of arcadia?

well having a ship upgrade system like that would be good

and it would be even better to get hold of your own space port!

Or maybe the ability to choose your ship?
like some have different attributes like speed and bulk

PS. is KoToR official yet?
if it is, can i have a link?
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The Hawk sucks.
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Old 12-15-2005, 05:37 PM   #100
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has anyone ever played skies of arcadia?

well having a ship upgrade system like that would be good

and it would be even better to get hold of your own space port!

Or maybe the ability to choose your ship?
like some have different attributes like speed and bulk
The Hawks in only in the game to get you where you need to go. The Turrent game is just there to add a bit of fun to the ship. The turrent mini-game is enough. I don't want to turn K3 into a flight sim anymore than I would want to turn it into a first person shooter or a hack 'n slash. (as some have sujested.)

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No, its not official yet, but the prevailing assumption is that it will be made. When? No one knows for sure. (I think its probable unofficial, "behind the scenes" talks are going on between LA and Obsidian, or another developer, but nothing has been announced yet.)

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Old 12-15-2005, 05:50 PM   #101
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:02 AM   #102
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The Hawk sucks.
Wel- Wait... You've posted that same thing before.
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Old 12-16-2005, 08:40 AM   #103
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The Hawk sucks.
care to say why?
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:17 PM   #104
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The Hawk sucks.
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You are lucky I won't cut you to pieces. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE HAWK!!

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Old 12-16-2005, 01:37 PM   #105
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the Hawk rules, but im geting a little weary about it ... i mean come on, how meany times has it been shot down blown up and crashed?!?
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:51 PM   #106
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the Hawk is a pretty cool ship, but it reminds me of the Falcon. I dont mind sticking with it, but I'd rather this one have a new ship, and maybe the PC crosses paths with Atton and the ship throughout the game.


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Old 12-17-2005, 11:33 PM   #107
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The Hawk sucks.
But only on weekends, and not for free.

There is nothing wrong with the Ebon Hawk, in my opinion. I love it, personally.
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:23 PM   #108
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:51 PM   #109
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But only on weekends, and not for free.


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Old 12-22-2005, 10:11 PM   #110
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Well, if there is anything I would like to see for the 'Hawk it would be:
1) Medical Workstation in sickbay.
2) Maybe a souped up engine that does not do down 10 times more than MF.
3) Some real beds for sleeping (... charging up the landing ramp?)

Ok, I would hate to see if they replace the 'Hawk with another ship, like the Purple pimpish Ebon Ewok as mentioned above.
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Old 12-22-2005, 11:37 PM   #111
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Ok, I would hate to see if they replace the 'Hawk with another ship, like the Purple pimpish Ebon Ewok as mentioned above.
Ebon Ewok. Now that is just funny.
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Old 12-26-2005, 09:02 AM   #112
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hay i thort that that the Ebon Hawk was distroyed on Malacor V
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Old 12-26-2005, 10:50 PM   #113
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I killed Bastila in KotOR I, and she appears in II, so I dont see a problem there.

I want to customize the ship!!!!
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Old 12-27-2005, 06:19 AM   #114
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If you play LS in KotOR2, the Hawk flys into the Unknown Regions at the end, so no, it's not destroyed.


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Even if it was destroyed, the ship could be the EBon Hawk II, or Ebon Hawk A, or something like that. THE HAWK RULES!!!
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Even if it was destroyed, the ship could be the EBon Hawk II, or Ebon Hawk A, or something like that. THE HAWK RULES!!!
yeah a upgraded Ebon Hawk would be good
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I like the Hawk, and it seems to me that it has to stay, but it's OK with me if they get a different room.

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Another ship would suck, and this time for free. The Ebon Hawk is to Star Wars like the TARDIS is to Doctor Who - it never changes.
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The hawk is like my home away from home if I dare go that far. It could use some changes and the character could have personal quarters with a bed like fable perhapse except on the ship of course. They could make it a bit bigger. ----Add a high def screen and some lay-z-boys maybe. Just kidding, I won't even go there.
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Old 12-31-2005, 07:34 PM   #120
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i believe piloting a capitol ship IS possible in the game. Actually, very easily done.

Recap for those who havent read the hand of thrawn series.

'Dark Force' was a fleet of 200(+?) dreadnaughts, all slaved to a master ship. Everything was automated down to the maintenance. If i remember right, the fleet lasted over 50 years, and still functioned. (of course, when they were found, some ships got stolen, others destroyed, etc etc etc)

The ship replacing the Ebon Hawk could have all its systems slaved to the bridge or a command center (like G0T0's yacht supposedly) and maybe T3 could be in charge of the droid systems. All commands could be imput to the bridge, and it would only need a crew of 4-9 depending on size. I believe a star-destroyer sized ship would need maybe 12 crew members on this system. This would be awesome, for those who want space battles, maybe a small wing of starfighters could be on board and you and your crew can pilot them, whiile your big mean capitol ship blows the enemy to iddy bitty chunks. Watch for the bombers! another cool idea would be to have certain areas do certain things, and if those areas are destroyed in the space battles, then you cant use them anymore!

Maybe you get to bring the hawk aboard sometime, like inbetween the second to last and last level of KOTOR1
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