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Old 11-27-2005, 04:46 PM   #1
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Women Sith Lords??

Where there ever Women Sith Lords in the history of SW?
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Old 11-27-2005, 05:05 PM   #2
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Maybe, there were female Dark Side Force users.
There were once thousands of Sith, unless they had something against women being Sith Lords I don't see why there wouldn't be one.



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Old 11-27-2005, 05:22 PM   #5
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I don't think we ever saw a female Dark Lord, except for Revan which is a technicallity. There have been countless female dark jedi. Mara, Asajj, ect.
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Old 11-27-2005, 10:38 PM   #6
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how about that Lumiya/Shira Brie woman? she was a Dark Lady, no?


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Old 11-28-2005, 10:29 AM   #7
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Nb. One- off questions like this belong in the "FAQS" thread

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Hmm... Mara was only barely a Dark jedi...... She wasnt driven by fear or anger or hate, as the emperors hand, she was just doing the job she had been raised and trained to do...

These are some other female Dark side users :
*Asajj ventress
*An'ya Kuro (The Dark Woman) - a tricky one, recently she has been written up as a jedi master that served in the clone wars
*Aurra Sing
*Lumiya aka Shira Brie (as benT mentioned)
*Dathomiri Nightsisters
*Tamith Kai

thats all the ones I can think of... It would be cool to have a female Dark Lord once/if those books ever get published...who knows, maybe Darth Bane's apprentice was a lady ??

out of the characters mentioned above,(excluding Mara Jade) my fave is easily Asajj Ventress. She's one messed up and angry lady !

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Old 11-28-2005, 10:42 AM   #8
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I can think of two real female Sith Lords: Darth Traya and Darth Zannah. And Revan wouldn't count since Lucasfilm established him to be a man.

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Old 11-28-2005, 11:16 AM   #9
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I can think of two real female Sith Lords: Darth Traya and Darth Zannah.
Yep i was gonna say these two im suprised they didnt get mentioned earlier!


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Old 11-28-2005, 11:48 AM   #10
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I can think of two real female Sith Lords: Darth Traya and Darth Zannah. And Revan wouldn't count since Lucasfilm established him to be a man.
yes, I was a bit weary about putting these in..... but I guess we might as well

*Darth Traya only appears in KOTOR2
*Darth Zannah is actually a creation of WOTC. They have stated the she became Darth Bane's apprentice. Hopefully this will be adhered to in the upcoming Bane Novel.

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Old 11-28-2005, 12:01 PM   #11
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The young girl that will grow up to be the Dark lord of the sith Zannah!


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Old 11-28-2005, 09:06 PM   #12
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yeah, Bane is awesome character...I am really looking forward to reading more about him...but Darth Zannah eventually dies in a duel against her brother, does she not ?

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Old 11-29-2005, 05:31 AM   #13
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Ah so there was at least one Dark Lady of the Sith in the EU.

As far as Dark Side using women, don't forget Sariss, Jaden Korr (if you follow that path!), Alora, and Tavion, via the Jedi Knight series! And of course the most famous EU darkside lady of all, Mara Jade!

But yeah, none in the movies!


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Old 11-29-2005, 11:38 AM   #14
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yeah, Bane is awesome character...I am really looking forward to reading more about him...but Darth Zannah eventually dies in a duel against her brother, does she not ?

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Think it was her cousin she fought?

Edit:Yep just looked her brother died on Ruusan so it must've been her cousin
but i cant seem to find any mention of this fight anywhere

i hope they do hurry up with the bane book i need to know more!



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Old 11-29-2005, 12:05 PM   #15
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"Hey benT - I said that quote in your sig ! acknoweldge me ! now !"

very well, i will: Astrotoy said that quote in my sig.

there.




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Old 11-29-2005, 05:25 PM   #16
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I remember there was a dark lady in one of the comics who Vader had trained. She used a lightwhip as opposed to a lightsaber or something...

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http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/lumiya/


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Old 11-29-2005, 09:40 PM   #17
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I remember there was a dark lady in one of the comics who Vader had trained. She used a lightwhip as opposed to a lightsaber or something...

EDIT

Check out here:
http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/lumiya/
Lumiya has already been mentioned, but thanks fo rthe link

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@ Terros re- Zannah's brother - CUSWE also mentions it, so its probably just not my imagination !! http://www.theforce.net/swenc/entryd...p?search=50517

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Old 11-30-2005, 11:35 AM   #18
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@ Terros re- Zannah's brother - CUSWE also mentions it, so its probably just not my imagination !! http://www.theforce.net/swenc/entryd...p?search=50517

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Ah ok on Star Wars Wiki its says

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Darth Zannah, Dark Lord of the Sith, returned to Ruusan several years after the battle, and engaged her wandering cousin in a final, deadly duel.
Im pretty sure it was her brother bug though who go crushed and died in the battle of ruusan? And only her cousin Tomcat survived.

Here's a pic i've scanned from the comic



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Old 11-30-2005, 11:44 PM   #19
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Isn't that a Dragonball Z character? (hehe)

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Old 11-30-2005, 11:49 PM   #20
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:32 AM   #22
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Also, keep in mind that while both TFN and Wiki are fan sites, at least TFN has a writing staff. Any idiot with a keyboard and put something up on wiki.
I've spoken to thw guy who does the CUSWE and he's looking into it

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Old 12-04-2005, 12:21 PM   #23
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The character of Dooku was originally meant to be a female.

For some reasons, Lucas obviously decided to use a male instead. While I'm glad that Christopher Lee got the role (he "saves" AotC), I think that a female sith would have been interesting to see.


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Old 12-06-2005, 12:25 PM   #24
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how about that Lumiya/Shira Brie woman? she was a Dark Lady, no?
Self Proclaimed... well then again she is kinda trained by Vader.

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yeah, Bane is awesome character...I am really looking forward to reading more about him...but Darth Zannah eventually dies in a duel against her brother, does she not ?

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Killing her ex-lover/cusion/bro, Isn't that the Tyffany chick? (another Sith Lady)

Thinks Zannah survived though.

OH, as for the Sith Lady uses whip question, both Lumiya and Zannah are known to use whips. Thank god Traya does not... whipped by an old lady is not pleasurable.
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Old 01-22-2006, 04:55 PM   #25
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exar kun the most famous sith of them all had a female apprentice at 1 point the name escapes me at the moment


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Old 01-23-2006, 06:43 AM   #26
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Just occured to me no one has mentioned Githany.


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Old 01-23-2006, 11:16 AM   #27
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well the one from the clone wars series wasn't a sith lord but was going to be a sith. That weak dark sith. I don't even know her name, and don't really care because she sucked so much.


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Old 01-23-2006, 11:30 AM   #28
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well the one from the clone wars series wasn't a sith lord but was going to be a sith. That weak dark sith. I don't even know her name, and don't really care because she sucked so much.
Asajji ventress?

Dont see how she sucked at all, In fact she was pretty tough managed to beat obi wan and also gave anakin a damn good fight resulting in the scar seen on his face.


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yes but even darth maul fought on to the end.......... in all the novels i've read she's ran off out of fright doesn't sound like a sith lord to me *rests case*


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doesn't sound like a sith lord to me *rests case*
Thats because she isnt


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Just out of curiosity, where does it say that Ventress was responsible for Anakin's scar?

Since she was invented in the Clone Wars series, it would seem amiss that her return from seeming death and the resulting battle that left the scar would have been mentioned... or was it? I watched the whole series. I remember their first fight in Season 2, but that's it...


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Just out of curiosity, where does it say that Ventress was responsible for Anakin's scar?

Since she was invented in the Clone Wars series, it would seem amiss that her return from seeming death and the resulting battle that left the scar would have been mentioned... or was it? I watched the whole series. I remember their first fight in Season 2, but that's it...
In Starwars:Republic 71 she follows him to coruscant finds out about him and padme she threatens to find and kill her then anakin goes mad and they have a awesome fight.



Thats when he gets his scar.


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lolz... nice work Terros Asajj is a hella cool character... Most of the Dark jeid and sith wannabees in EU are morons, but she's greta fun to read and watch...

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Revan could have been a woman.
According to cannon, Revan was a Male-Lightsider. I think.

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The character of Dooku was originally meant to be a female.

For some reasons, Lucas obviously decided to use a male instead. While I'm glad that Christopher Lee got the role (he "saves" AotC), I think that a female sith would have been interesting to see.
I agree. They should have done something with this idea...



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Hmmm... well, maybe in the late CW era there are more tainted jedi chicks that turned and hunted their own kind? Wishful thinking I guess, but would make a good novel.
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According to cannon, Revan was a Male-Lightsider. I think.
That is correct.

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Hmmm... well, maybe in the late CW era there are more tainted jedi chicks that turned and hunted their own kind? Wishful thinking I guess, but would make a good novel.
If they did exist they were Dark Jedi, not Sith Lords. After Bane there was only ever two real Sith Lords at any one time.
So during the CW era we know for a fact that there were no female Sith Lords.



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According to cannon, Revan was a Male-Lightsider. I think.
used to be.

terros, in that pic anni already has his scar.... thats definately not a fresh wound on his eye....
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It looks like an old scar but it isin't.... that is how he gets his scar. http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/com...c/71/duel3.jpg

Strangely it looks like he is cut in the other side.... Anakin doesen't have the scar though until that battle.
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oh yeah i understand the physics of that picture now... it looked like the blade in her right hand went behind anakin. im guessing that either the artist didnt want to be too brutal, or they just werent allowed to add blood.
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