Returning Characters - Page 5

xmovingpicturesx · 01-21-2006, 08:29 AM

I would like to see Darth Malak and Darth Nihilus/or/Darth Sion as force ghosts. I know it wouldn't quite make sense, but it would just be really cool. I don't really want any of the characters to come back as full-time party members, except maybe Carth. He could be the "Old-Ben" character-type. A mentor of sorts. He was arguably the best character of the series, and has a lot of potential story-wise.

RobQel-Droma · 01-21-2006, 03:17 PM

I disagree with Sion and Malak. Sion I think was glad to leave when you killed him, or something like that. I don't think he would want to come back. As for Malak- I DO NOT want him to come back and start clutching his chest and laughing demonically. That was so annoying in KotOR I. I think I just wanted to kill him even more when I had heard that about five times already.

xmovingpicturesx · 01-21-2006, 05:31 PM

Well, that's why Malak should reappear. Either light or dark, you were the one who killed him. In cold blood. Though there wasn't any redemption, he did come to terms with the evil of the dark side. His "reemergence" would open up a whole new world of teachings and "power" in general to both jedi and sith.

**JediMaster12** · 01-21-2006, 11:40 PM

Not necessarily. You had the option in KOTOR to try to redeem him but he made the choice not to. I think he had fallen so far that he became lost forever but the devs gave you the option to try. I would not want to see Malak again. I would rather see a Force Ghost of Kavar. He seemed to understand better than the rest of the Council what the Jedi were facing. He too knew war.

xmovingpicturesx · 01-22-2006, 01:54 AM

I can never remember the names of those council members. If Kavar was that Ed Asner jedi, then that too would be rockin'.

EDIT: I was thinking about it, and Malak as a force ghost would work. The Force Ghost implies that one has come to terms and became "one with the force." Not "one with the light." I seem to remember quite a few sith who, as they lay dying, used their last moments to do this.

XoRRoX · 01-22-2006, 06:38 AM

I would like Bindo back. He was that guy, who was on the light side but not a part of the Jedi Order. He did think in the "new way". And he didn't put anything in the "light side" or "dark side" group.

He should be a force ghost, there trains the new PC. Bindo could be a nice master.

Carth should return in the game, as a cameo. I love the scene, where you talk with him. Especially if you are Revan female.

T3-m4 and HK-47 should also return, because they play certains roles in the game.

**JediMaster12** · 01-23-2006, 11:45 AM

Kudos for you XoRRoX! My favorite characters to see. I wouldn't mind seeing Atton or Mira again, even the Handmaiden and as I've said before, Kavar.

igyman · 01-29-2006, 03:00 PM

HK-47 is a character that must appear in KoTOR 3 as a party member, Bastila and Carth also (presuming you will play as Revan), the Handmaiden should appear as a historian at the Jedi Academy on Coruscant, just to show consistency with Kreia's premonition, Mission should definitely appear as a party member, but this time sepparated from Zaalbar, he should only appear if you revisit Kashyyyk - as the leader of the Wookie tribe, not as a party member. Canderous must reappear, but i don't know if he should be a party member, Bao-Dur should reappear as a party member (just because he's an alien and the party should have more aliens, it's boring if most party members are humans). Jolee and Juhani should appear as members of the reestablished Jedi Council on Coruscant.

Phaedra36 · 01-30-2006, 12:05 AM

Carth, Jolee, Atton, the droids, Bastila, Visas, Revan, Exile, and Bao-Dur. Bao-Dur because he has a everlasting loyalty to his General, Carth (if you were F LS Revan), Jolee since you always have to have the Windu of the Kotor series (his personality and Windu's is kinda the same imo), Atton for his wit, charm, and love interest to the Exile if she was a female, Visas for the male Exile's love interest,and Revan and the Exile (don't have to explain why).
So basically I don't think you should have all those characters, just depending on the choices you made throughout the game.

Maverick5770 · 02-01-2006, 11:08 PM

Heck, i'd love all of them back but Carth,Atton,Bastila,HK,T3 and Handmaiden are almost neccesary, Bao Dur would Be nice too.

Phaedra36 · 02-03-2006, 02:00 AM

To clarify more on my post and to keep it as an on going discussion this is how I would like the characters placed...
Disciple, Handmaiden, and Jolee should be the head people of the newly formed Jedi Council. After all, Kreia says that Handmaiden turns out to be a Chronicler if I am correctand Disciple is a part of the Jedi Academy (heard it through a different forum).
I could care less about the wookies. Zaalbar was boring and never talked. I never bothered with Hanharr yet, but Zaalbar kinda turned me off from wookies.
As for Mission, I don't really care. She was nice to have, but not one of those important NPC's people think about when they think of Kotor.
Same for Juhani..
Canderous- is getting a little tiresome in my opinion, but I could see him getting worked into the storyline. He wants to know why his master left him, but I think he would do MUCH better if he was more of a cameo because his main goal in life is to rebuild the Mandalorians. How could he do that if he keeps running off to save the world?
Bao-Dur-I could see being worked into the storyline, the ever-faithful Techie/Jedi to his General. Like Canderous, he would probably just be better off deciding to work on other restoration planets instead of fighting.
Mira: She was kinda cool, but would do better as a cameo or have a brief appearance as a party member like Trask. She obviously loved it in Nar Shadaa and the most logical thing to do would be for her to return there and help restore her home.
As for MUSTS:
The droids. They have been party members for both I and II, they should be party members in the next one.
Carth and Bastila- In order for this to be a good roleplaying game, you need to tie up the loose ends. I know people have their favorites and some people do not want Carth or even Bastila, but this is a roleplaying game and the romance between Revan and one of the two has to come to an end. It would be -extremely- unfair if one was in and the other was not.
Atton and Visas- Atton is the typical Han Solo. It's always fun to have a witty, sarcastic, charming guy around. Visas is more mysterious and very loyal. Both would make great love interests. For someone to be named Disciple and Handmaiden, they just don't seem important enough to me even if you get their real names. Even if Atton's was fake, at least he came with a name.
Revan and the Exile- Their destiny is to go out into the Outer Rim so it is almost a given that they should play a major part in the third one. Plus, the romance plot needs to be fulfilled.I just don't want Carth waiting for my LS Revan F forever :-p Anyway, one of my ideas is to just pick a teacher from either Bastila, Revan, or the Exile to clear up some possible party space (each representing a different job from the Jedi/Sith order).
P.S. Musts btw should be companions to bring along with you on the trip.

Lord_Andre · 02-14-2006, 02:17 PM

The party members I would like to see are:Mandalore,Handmaiden,Visas,Atton,
Carth,Bastila,HK-47,T3-M4,Jolee,Mira,Bao-Dur,Mission,Zaalbar.The Exile would be more powerfull with all of them togheter.It would be cool to see Carth telling Atton the laws of the Republic and Atton saying that he doesn't care.

**JediMaster12** · 02-14-2006, 02:50 PM

The odds of them meeting are approximately 3,527 to 1!

There was never someone who liked to get lost more that Atton so it is a highly unlikely possibility that those two would meet unless it were under extreme conditions or by the will of the Force.

igyman · 02-14-2006, 02:54 PM

You mean by the will of the programmers.

Vladimir-Vlada · 02-14-2006, 03:02 PM

I would really like to see the sight of Atton, Carth, Canderous and Bao-Dur fighting. That would be really funny. Also, a fight between Mira and Bastila would make my day.

**JediMaster12** · 02-14-2006, 04:07 PM

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You mean by the will of the programmers.

Maybe, maybe not

Still I will admit that it would be funny to see: a scoundrel and a straight arrow admiral butting heads over regulations and flexing their muscles. I never really understood that between guys though I do admit that having HK-47 give tips like rip his head off would add to the amusement.

Phaedra36 · 02-14-2006, 04:14 PM

Carth and Atton as drinking buddies would be hilarious lmao. I would also like to see Atton and T3-M4 get into a fight rofl.

Vladimir-Vlada · 02-14-2006, 04:21 PM

I still think that the combination Carth, Atton, Canderous and Bao-Dur hits the spot.

igyman · 02-14-2006, 04:23 PM

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I would really like to see the sight of Atton, Carth, Canderous and Bao-Dur fighting. That would be really funny. Also, a fight between Mira and Bastila would make my day.

How about a fight between the Handmaiden and Visas?

Vladimir-Vlada · 02-14-2006, 04:25 PM

That too can do (although you can see this)... But there can also be the variant: Handmaiden, Mira and Bastila fight eacht other.

igyman · 02-14-2006, 04:28 PM

And maybe HK-47 standing on the side, watching the fight and yelling at the participants of the best ways to kill their opponents.

Something like: (at Bastila) ''Stupid Jedi, you could have broken their necks with your Force 15 minutes ago!'' or ''Stupid jedi, why do you keep that lightsaber, if you are not going to use it?!''

Vladimir-Vlada · 02-14-2006, 04:36 PM

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And maybe HK-47 standing on the side, watching the fight and yelling at the participants of the best ways to kill their opponents.

Something like: (at Bastila) ''Stupid Jedi, you could have broken their necks with your Force 15 minutes ago!'' or ''Stupid jedi, why do you keep that lightsaber, if you are not going to use it?!''

Phaedra36 · 02-14-2006, 05:08 PM

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I still think that the combination Carth, Atton, Canderous and Bao-Dur hits the spot.

I agree lol.

igyman · 02-14-2006, 05:18 PM

For me it's HK-47, Bastila, Jolee (not necessarily as a party member), Bao-Dur, Mission, Handmaiden (same as for Jolee), Canderous (same as the two before) and T3 (just for tradition's sake) and 3-5 new characters, preferrably alien species (so it wouldn't be monotonous).

Phaedra36 · 02-14-2006, 06:39 PM

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For me it's HK-47, Bastila, Jolee (not necessarily as a party member), Bao-Dur, Mission, Handmaiden (same as for Jolee), Canderous (same as the two before) and T3 (just for tradition's sake) and 3-5 new characters, preferrably alien species (so it wouldn't be monotonous).

And Atton. >.>

RobQel-Droma · 02-14-2006, 10:09 PM

I'd love to see some previous character interaction, perhaps near the end when they're all together or something. Carth and Atton (and Bao-Dur) would be cool, but I would suggest having them loading up on Juma Juice in a cantina.

As for the Bastila/Handmaiden/Mira fight....

But it would be funny even to just hear a conversation between the three of them, especially with their different personalities.

Phaedra36 · 02-14-2006, 10:32 PM

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I'd love to see some previous character interaction, perhaps near the end when they're all together or something. Carth and Atton (and Bao-Dur) would be cool, but I would suggest having them loading up on Juma Juice in a cantina.

Lmao, I could hear Carth and Atton having a conversation about sharing stories about their girlfriends, Revan and the Exile (if both are F) while loading up juma juice.

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As for the Bastila/Handmaiden/Mira fight....

But it would be funny even to just hear a conversation between the three of them, especially with their different personalities.

Lmao. Handmaiden would switch to her underwear so she could fight better rofl.

Vladimir-Vlada · 02-14-2006, 10:47 PM

And when you add Mission, Jolee, Revan and the Exile to the mix. You get...

igyman · 02-15-2006, 11:22 AM

Well, now you're turning it into a parody.

**JediMaster12** · 02-15-2006, 12:20 PM

Oh, you pain me igyman! Still some interaction between previous NPCs at some point in time during the game would be excitingly funny that probably evry gamer would bust a gut, or two.

igyman · 02-15-2006, 02:46 PM

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for it, I love a good laugh, but just don't exaggerate.

Vladimir-Vlada · 02-15-2006, 03:02 PM

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Don't get me wrong, I'm all for it, I love a good laugh, but just don't exaggerate.

I probably exagerated there, sorry. Anyway, I would like that most of the characters return, along with some new ones. Except for maybe Visas (she creeps me out).

Joe© · 02-15-2006, 10:38 PM

I would really like to see HK-47 and Jolee.
Reven and exile too, but I have no idea how they would pull that one off

Beast-Thrasher · 02-15-2006, 10:52 PM

I would like to see Juhani with an apprentice and possibly see Juhani's Master, Master Quatra, no particular reason just for keeps since we only know that she left after the final trial with Juahani and her fate isn't told as well as Juhani in K2(If Revan goes light side). I know Quatra was not a significant character but for kicks I would like to see Quatra on Corucsant or something with Juhani and her apprentice.

RobQel-Droma · 02-15-2006, 11:40 PM

You know, the "Mysterious Man" from Manaan, that tells you to go look in the different bases for clues in Sunry's murder trial, might make an interesting return. Not big, but more like Adum Larp's cameo in TSL. Just a tiny bit of dialogue without a big mention of the fact that he was in the first game. Then again, I'm not really sure whether I'm suggesting him just for the sake of some minor character to have a cameo.

As for Quatra, that would be interesting (although I agree that it would probably be "just for kicks"). The only problem with that is that she might have died in the Dantooine bombing, or later in the Jedi Purge by Nihilus and Sion. And talking about the Jedi Purge, I wonder what happened to the Jedi from K1? Obviously Bastila survived, and the four Jedi Masters, but what about people like Juhani?

**JediMaster12** · 02-15-2006, 11:50 PM

You know I don't think they were mentioned because you had the option to kill them in KOTOR and they couldn't work in the elements if Revan was DS or LS. It's also a matter of picking and choosing; pick what you can work with.

Phaedra36 · 02-16-2006, 12:33 AM

I'll tell you the people I DON'T want in K3.
Kreia- She never would leave me alone, never would shut up. Used my char. from the beginning to the very end, and all she was good for was seeing into the future.
Zaalbar and Hanharr- Unless they shut up about being slaves, I don't want them.
G0-T0- Served no purpose, and I don't think we need 3 droids anyway. I like the loyal T3-M4 and the sadistic HK-47.

Beast-Thrasher · 02-16-2006, 12:57 AM

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As for Quatra, that would be interesting (although I agree that it would probably be "just for kicks"). The only problem with that is that she might have died in the Dantooine bombing, or later in the Jedi Purge by Nihilus and Sion. And talking about the Jedi Purge, I wonder what happened to the Jedi from K1? Obviously Bastila survived, and the four Jedi Masters, but what about people like Juhani?

As for Quatra I don't think she returned to Dantooine, I THINK it was said that she was on her way to Corucsant and wouldn't be back anytime soon.
And she wasn't mentioned as one of the Jedi that died although only what? two or three names were mentioned anywho.

As for the four Masters are you refering to Vandar, Dorak, Zhar and another mystery one?

Also this just came to mind but when you go to Dantooine in K1 Juhani has a best friend called Belaya or something, it would be nice to see if anything happened there.

**RedHawke** · 02-16-2006, 01:07 AM

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Also this just came to mind but when you go to Dantooine in K1 Juhani has a best friend called Belaya or something, it would be nice to see if anything happened there.

It might benefit some of you to play the game different ways.

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If you kill Juhani in the grove, Belaya will get quite upset at you and leave, and you can even meet her later in the game where she tries for a little payback. It seems Belaya and Juhani were... well... a little more than freinds.

Diego Varen · 02-16-2006, 03:34 AM

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As for the Masters are you refering to Vandar, Dorak and Zhar

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All three died on Katarr, unless if Vandar died on KOTOR