Anakin's Padawan?[MAYBE SPOILER]

Hayden Kered · 04-16-2008, 11:54 PM

I was just thinking, in the up coming Star Wars: The Clone Wars Anakin has his own padawan. Since CW takes place between EP2 and EP3 this would make Anakin a Jedi Knight. How can he have a padawan if he is only the rank of Knight? I thought that the Code only allowed Masters to be appointed padawans. And since Anakin was never granted the rank of Master in EP3, this would go completely against the story line, would it?

adamqd · 04-17-2008, 04:57 AM

Jedi can take on a Padawan upon completion of their trials to become a Knight, Jedi often attain the Rank of Master when they have trained a Padawan to Knighthood (Unless they are awarded that rank earlier for valor or some major achievement etc) check the films, both Qui-Gon and Obi-wan were Knights while training there Padawans.
Note: It can be misleading sometimes because all non force users and younglings seem to call Some Padawans and Knights Master (It's a Respect thing)

Hayden Kered · 04-17-2008, 11:56 PM

Yeah you're right. I just now remembered at the end of TPM Yoda granted Obi-Wan the rank of Knight, and just after, he took Anakin to be his Padawan learner. WOW, I forgot all about that one.

Ztalker · 04-18-2008, 07:03 AM

Also, Revan was called 'Master' by his comrades as well. It's indeed an respect thing.

But I still think this Padawan idea is a bit...far-fetched. It would explain Anakin's thoughts about beiing 'ready to join the council' in Episode 3. But how can he possibly train a padawan in 2-3 years? We don't see her in Episode 3, nor in other material (yet).

Serpentine Cougar · 04-19-2008, 11:46 PM

It'll be interesting to see how the Padawan turns out, though. I mean, if the guy who eventually becomes Darth Vader is your master, how would that affect your view of the force and everything? She's probably either going to be led down the path that leads to the Dark Side, or is going to actually be wiser than her master (where good and evil are concerned; he can probably teach her a lot in the way of fighting and such...). And then how are they going to reconcile the fact that we've never heard of her before? Will she have some kind of dramatic death scene in Clone Wars, or will she survive and go off into hiding and become yet another Jedi who secretly survived the Jedi Purge (and that without full Jedi training)?

Henz · 04-22-2008, 12:59 PM

Was there ever an official time span between Ep 2 and 3? Maybe it's extended a few years to allow for a more developed Clone Wars story. I'm sure it will go on a few seasons.

adamqd · 04-22-2008, 01:05 PM

the time span is 3 years, they cant change that without a MAJOR ret-conn. It's set for 100 episodes up to now

Sabretooth · 04-24-2008, 03:27 AM

Whatever the case, this is bull and I oppose it. Anakin from E3 looked nothing like he ever had a padawan or even that he was capable of having and training one. And considering his level of immaturity and mood swings in E2, I doubt if the Council would allow him a padawan in under three years, especially during times as hard as the Clone Wars.

JoeDoe 2.0 · 04-24-2008, 10:05 AM

^But maybe withthe death of so many Knights on the war they were getting a bit too desperate...

But Anakin doesn't look like teacher material IMO

adamqd · 04-24-2008, 10:26 AM

In the recent Clone Wars webdoc, Dave Filoni claims that Anakin was given (Not chose) a Padawan by the Council to try and Teach him about Letting go of loved ones and responsibility, not because he was necessarily ready for a student.

PoiuyWired · 04-24-2008, 10:56 PM

Poor Padawan got served. Being given to an unfit master as a teaching tool.

adamqd · 04-25-2008, 03:49 AM

^^
Agreed

Sabretooth · 04-25-2008, 03:53 AM

That's lame and would have been unfair for the student. It seems that the more I learn about the Clone Wars, the more I hate it.

adamqd · 04-25-2008, 04:00 AM

Hates a strong word Sabre, I too have my nit picking to do, but the series is set for a possible 5 year run, and we've only heard or seen about 45 seconds of info.

Sabretooth · 04-25-2008, 12:41 PM

Agreed, hate was too strong - dislike would do.

adamqd · 04-25-2008, 01:07 PM

Job Done

, but yeah it is a bit of a jump for Anakin to have a Padawan even with there supposed explanation

PoiuyWired · 04-25-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabretooth

That's lame and would have been unfair for the student. It seems that the more I learn about the Clone Wars, the more I hate it.

On the other hand though, it would actually fit the situations of the Clone Wars.

It shows the desperate need of Jedi training and the lack of "jedi trainers" for padawans. We have seen anything from Padawan units lead by only one Jedi Master, speedy powerlevel to knighthood, notable members of Masters flirting/joining with darkside, compromising of Jedi Ethics, spying/terroristique tactics (well some planets give high level droids "some" sentient rights)...

It shows the downward spiral the Jedi order is in, and that it is also tearing itself apart from within, due to all the changes it makes for the war.

Henz · 04-26-2008, 06:44 PM

I don't think Anakin would necessarily be a bad teacher. In fact, except for problems controlling his emotions, he appeared to be a very powerful and well schooled jedi.

Nedak · 04-26-2008, 07:02 PM

I have a feeling that Anakin or somebody kills his apprentice.

Directly, or indirectly

TriggerGod · 05-10-2008, 08:02 PM

Maybe, the apprentice he trains in this is also the apprentice of Vader in TFU. Think about it: at least 10 year gap between RotS and ANH. A lot can happen in 10 years. Neither would recognize each other (well, especially the apprentice not recognizing Vader

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Serpentine Cougar · 05-11-2008, 11:41 PM

Yeah, how many apprentices does Anakin/Vader need?

/sarcasm

PoiuyWired · 05-12-2008, 03:56 PM

Live ones?

Serpentine Cougar · 05-14-2008, 11:52 PM

Yeah...

Druganator · 06-11-2008, 01:34 AM

is it a woman i mean it could be his secret apprentice from the force unleashed and after the clone wars he feigned his death and became the secret apprentice?

Gurges-Ahter · 06-11-2008, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Druganator

is it a woman i mean it could be his secret apprentice from the force unleashed and after the clone wars he feigned his death and became the secret apprentice?

Not possible... his Jedi Apprentice is Ahsoka Tano, and is definitely not human and a female.

**Astor** · 06-11-2008, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Gurges-Ahter

Not possible... his Jedi Apprentice is Ahsoka Tano, and is definitely not human and a female.

Yeah. Ahsoka Tano is a Togrutan from Shilli... the same species as Shaak Ti. She is definately not the apprentice.

I'm quite fond of the species, so i'm looking forward to seeing how she turns out.

PoiuyWired · 06-12-2008, 10:00 PM

Dead?

Thats my guess anyways.

Rev7 · 06-12-2008, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabretooth

Whatever the case, this is bull and I oppose it. Anakin from E3 looked nothing like he ever had a padawan or even that he was capable of having and training one. And considering his level of immaturity and mood swings in E2, I doubt if the Council would allow him a padawan in under three years, especially during times as hard as the Clone Wars.

Agreed. I don't think that Anakin was even close to ready to have a padawan. It actually makes me laugh a little bit.

M@RS · 06-12-2008, 10:46 PM

No wonder why he went to the DS he was so frustrated with his padawan

I know some bosses like that

Druganator · 06-13-2008, 01:42 AM

well the jedi were losing a lot of people and needing as amny as they could get so they sent children out with as many jedi as they could maybe?