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Old 06-03-2006, 06:57 AM   #1
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Behind the Magic Cd

Hi all

Could someone please confirm for me that Starwars behind the magic cd is based on the SCUMM engine and what I can use to access the image files. The data files are bundle.000 and bundle.001. I was sure that this was SCUMM but I dont seem to be able to access the bundles.

Any information would be greatly appreciated. I realy only want to view the images they used for the Meillenium Falcon walk through as I am doing a model of my own. I would simply like tyo compare size and placement.

Thanks in advance

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Old 06-04-2006, 09:15 AM   #2
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From what I remember, I think it is. Try Scumm revisited

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Old 06-05-2006, 11:39 PM   #3
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Tried all the scumm utilities and none worked, thanks anyway.It only goes one folder deep.

Does not seem to be anything on the net regarding anyone having ever done it

If anyone has any other ideas please let me know

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Old 06-08-2006, 08:13 AM   #4
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Hiho,

I'm surprised there doesn't seem to be a tool that can handle these files.

Well, so I made one

You can download it from
http://gamefileformats.the-underdogs...plorer-1.0.zip

Usage is pretty simple. Open a bundle (bundle.000) from either CD. It looks similar to the Windows explorer, on the left side are the directories and on the right side the files inside the currently selected directory.
You can extract a single file or the whole archive.

There are mainly Jpegs for the photos, the .bm files are rather small and seem to contain the images for the buttons, scrollbars etc.
The movies use the same format as Grim Fandango etc. and you can use my Smush player/converter to play/convert them.
The .s and .slb files are pure text files with scripts and layout data.


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Old 06-11-2006, 11:48 AM   #5
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Thank you Sir, I have not been on line for a few days so had not noticed your post. This will help me beyond what you could imagine.

Thank you for your time to respond.

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Old 06-11-2006, 09:05 PM   #6
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Hi again, another question if I can, I have bben able to extract the files I was after, I also wished to view and compare the MFalcon walkthrough as well, I was expecting some texture files etc, but all the files are as such "FW_A2A3.ZNM". With one SLB extension. Any Ideas as to how to view these, there must be some 3d texture files in there.

Thanks in advance

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Old 06-12-2006, 03:36 AM   #7
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The ZNM files are videos. You can view/convert them with the tools from this thread:http://lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=155743


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Old 06-12-2006, 08:25 PM   #8
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Hi John, thanks for your reply, I had found on the internet that thy may have ben video, was not sure though because there is a SLB extension as well which could have been a slide library, and the ZNM extensions the library files. Since your app looks for SNM should I change the extnsions to SNM from the ZNM extension?

I have not tried your app yet becuse the link you forwarded me to is broken, could you post it again please.

Thank you again for your time.

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Old 06-13-2006, 03:49 AM   #9
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The new links are
http://gamefileformats.the-underdogs.../grisp-0.1.zip
http://gamefileformats.the-underdogs...grisc-0.1a.zip

You don't need to change the extension, just give the tools the right filename.


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Old 06-13-2006, 04:29 AM   #10
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Wonderful John, it worked like a charm. Thanks for your help

Kind regards

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Old 07-26-2006, 02:44 AM   #11
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Hello.

I tried this program on the Star Wars Episode 1 Insider's Guide that uses the same format at the Behind the Magic - Bundle. However, I was unable to get the program to work with the Ep1 Insider's Guide.

If you would be willing to update your program to work with that too, that would be appreciative. I am particularly looking to extract the audio files, as they contain some music not on either soundtrack.

Thanks,
~Andy
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Old 08-01-2006, 05:42 PM   #12
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I've updated the BundleExplorer, it now also works with the bundles from Episode I Insider's Guide.
It can be downloaded here: http://gamefileformats.the-underdogs...plorer-1.1.zip


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Old 08-02-2006, 03:32 AM   #13
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Thanks for the program! However, when I use the grisp program to convert the extracted znm files to avi, the music is not added to them (the avis are silent).

Also, some of the znm files are audio only, is there a way to convert them?

Thanks,
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Old 10-06-2006, 03:31 PM   #14
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got the same problem, only video, no audio.
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:46 PM   #15
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Wow, thanks a lot, john_doe! I was looking for such a tool since the time I bought BTM, years ago.
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Old 06-17-2007, 06:47 PM   #16
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I tried Grisp and Grisc on some of the audio only .SNM files but they would neither play nor convert. I tried the files out in XWA Cut Scenes Player and the files played for a few seconds then stopped.
As far as I can gather SNM is a later version of the .SAN format. These were the Variant 2 VIMA.
http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=VIMA
Is it possible to convert these to a wav file ?
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Old 03-30-2008, 04:23 PM   #17
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I was just enlightened about BundleExplorer recently and I've got to say a very big THANK YOU to John Doe from created that awesome tool.

Now, is there any chance of getting something similar that will work for Making Magic?



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Old 04-07-2008, 05:20 PM   #18
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I'm hoping John_Doe is still around around to see these questions. Bundle Explorer worked great on Behind the Magic when I extracted all files.

But when I use the updated version for Episode I Insider's Guide, and attempt to extract all files I get an error pop up that says:

Datei D:\\DATA\VEHICLES\PODRACER\PODB\PODB001.SLB kann nicht erstellt werden.

Any idea why that's happening? Thanks in advance.



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Old 04-07-2008, 09:21 PM   #19
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Just a wild guess, but is D: your CD-ROM-Drive? Might explain why the file can't be created there.

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Old 04-19-2008, 08:02 PM   #20
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Just a wild guess, but is D: your CD-ROM-Drive? Might explain why the file can't be created there.
Yes, D: is the CD-ROM drive.



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Old 08-09-2008, 01:55 PM   #21
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.SAD file convertion

Thanks for alot of helpfull info. Needed help extracting from that bundle file.

But can anybody help me with some way to convert the SAD sound files to e.g .wav?
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Old 03-01-2009, 07:52 PM   #22
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I'm very sorry to dig this thread up from the depths of the forum but I just got Behind the Magic a few days ago and am trying to get the tools mentioned in this thread but the links appear to be dead. If anyone has these tools can they upload them somewhere for me? Many thanks!
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Old 03-07-2009, 11:21 AM   #23
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Here it is -> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P74MXS0R

I don't know if another version has been made since this one (1.1) but it work really well ^^
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Old 03-08-2009, 04:57 AM   #24
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thanks so much! Worked perfectly XD
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Old 07-04-2010, 02:54 PM   #25
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Thanks very much to John_Doe for creating the awesome Bundle Explorer! You're a life-saver, man!
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Old 07-04-2010, 02:55 PM   #26
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I'm very sorry to dig this thread up from the depths of the forum but I just got Behind the Magic a few days ago and am trying to get the tools mentioned in this thread but the links appear to be dead. If anyone has these tools can they upload them somewhere for me? Many thanks!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P74MXS0R

That link still works, as of July 4, 2010.
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Old 07-18-2010, 12:13 AM   #27
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Running CD on Windows 7

I am not certain if this thread is still active, but I saw directions to this site on YouTube. I have had the Behind the Magic CD since it came out, and used to run it fine on my old computer. After doing some cleaning, I was able to dig up this CD, but when I attempt to install it on my current PC (Windows 7- 64 bit), I get an error message and I am unable to install it. Can anyone please provide assistance as to how to make the CD run as it once did. Thank you in advance...Ricky
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Old 01-12-2011, 05:41 AM   #28
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I tried to convert the Weaponstest Videos (that poor Stormtrooper), but grisc keeps telling me "Unsupported header flag"

The Videos (located at DATA\TECH\WEAPONS\TOPICS\WEAPTEST) are in snm format. Has anyone ever tried to extract/convert these (and did NOT fail)?
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Old 01-12-2011, 03:19 PM   #29
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I tried to convert the Weaponstest Videos (that poor Stormtrooper), but grisc keeps telling me "Unsupported header flag"

The Videos (located at DATA\TECH\WEAPONS\TOPICS\WEAPTEST) are in snm format. Has anyone ever tried to extract/convert these (and did NOT fail)?
It would be fun to see that on YouTube.


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Old 04-06-2011, 03:26 AM   #30
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I am having trouble installing Behind the Magic on Vista 64bit, apparently there's issues with the older installer executables on newer systems. Does anyone know how to do it?
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