Movie? - Page 2

B.A.T. · 07-15-2006, 02:11 AM

well then again the movie center did have a few typo's so maybe they just took what he said out of contex If there will be a movie it wud probably be realeased in 2008 or somthin but dont count on it. Its probably just a publicity stunt or just a rumor maybe lucas arts wanted to raise sales or sumthin. but if the movie was a success they would re-launch GF or make a sequel but it would be based on the movie and be different from the actual game. They might even make it a platform game which wud destroy the franchise. There will never be another GF just like there probably will never be another MI.

1 GF
4 MI
1 FT
1 S&M

itchythesamurai · 07-15-2006, 07:48 AM

Man, where's our guy on the inside?

*VampireNaomi* · 07-15-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Smon

Actually Burton sticks pretty heavily to the source material. Just look at the Batman movies, the only times they ever ****ed it up was the nipple suit and that Harvey Dent was played by a black man in one of the movies and a white man in Batman Forever. But other than that they stick to the story/continuity pretty well.

He also made The Joker to be the one who killed the Waynes while it was Joe Chill in the comics. Some people I've talked with can't stop bitching about that.

Also, don't we have Joel Schumacher to blame for the mistakes you mentioned?

There have to be some changes about the story and characters if it's going to work as a movie. For example, they can't possibly add stuff about all four years without making it too long, or only scratching the surface. I haven't thought about it a lot, but I don't think it would be such a bad idea to skip most of Year 3, maybe even replace it with a scene in Puerto Zapato (so that Manny can find Meche).

***Thrik*** · 07-15-2006, 11:55 AM

Just to throw this out there, Tim of the Schafer variety knew nothing about this when asked on July 12th.

I'm really not sure why anybody's buying into it at all considering the story originated from some free blog that was created a month ago with four posts on it. I could create a Wordpress.com blog right now and throw up a similar rumour and it'd hold as much weight as this one. :/

While a Grim Fandango film would be truly awesome, I think it's important that we keep ourselves composed and don't get too excited about what will almost certainly turn out to just be another guy attempting to drive traffic to his blog by putting out a rumour that everyone'd love to be true.

B.A.T. · 07-15-2006, 12:50 PM

Tim Schafer didnt know wtf! Its not happenin its just another rumor. LA is way too busy with their Starwars games(even though they rock) Nowdays thats all LA is focused on besides they'd have to sell the rights to burton or sumthin.

*VampireNaomi* · 07-15-2006, 01:22 PM

I don't think anybody is really believing it. The rumour just got everyone speculating again about what they think of the idea of a movie. There being a rumour spiced it up a little and made it more exciting than the previous movie threads.

***Thrik*** · 07-15-2006, 03:53 PM

Hee I don't mean you guys so much, but all the game sites out there that're reporting it like crazy. :~

**Smon** · 07-15-2006, 04:15 PM

Well with all the buzz it has attracted maybe, if it turns out to be fake, LucasArts will start looking into it anyway.

*VampireNaomi* · 07-15-2006, 04:57 PM

I'm not too surprised that it caused such a buzz. Considering the lack of any GF related news in years, it's easy to get excited when something new comes up. I know my heart skipped a beat.

urluckyday · 07-15-2006, 05:59 PM

Yea, it's sad that there is so little news about GF...but think about it...not too many other games still have this much news after about 8 years of this released...well considering that GF didn't do amazing...

Nick Virago · 07-15-2006, 08:07 PM

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itchythesamurai · 07-15-2006, 11:42 PM

I couldn't really find anything pertinent on Dark Horizons, what am I supposed to be looking at?

***Thrik*** · 07-16-2006, 05:50 AM

Considering his former influence at LucasArts and the gravity of such a piece of news, chances are he'd know something about it. As for Dark Horizons, I'll bet both nuts that they're basing their story on The Movie Center's, whether credit is given or not.

As for GF being the last adventure game from LucasArts, well yeah, I guess that's true if you don't count Monkey Island 4 that was released in 2001!

itchythesamurai · 07-16-2006, 07:25 AM

Is this nut bet open to anyone? Would I have to put mine on the line to participate?

Nick Virago · 07-16-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrik

As for GF being the last adventure game from LucasArts, well yeah, I guess that's true if you don't count Monkey Island 4 that was released in 2001!

My mistake, MI4 was the last adventure game by lucasarts (released in 2000, actually) but remember tim schafer wasn't involved in all 4 games and even if he was involved in MI4 (I don't remember right now) that was his last job at lucasarts. He resigned afterwards (did I mention the star wars fever from the late 90's?)

Experience has told me that videogame-based movies only succeed when whoever created the game is kept at least 1000 ft from the set, I think Tim Burton would like to create his own version of Grim Fandango.
Take for example the two mortal kombat movies: when Midway sold the rights for the first one, neither ed boon or john tobias (co-creators) were involved and the movie was a success (with a budget of $30 M, the studio won $70 M only on the first weekend and was considered the first good videogame-to-film adaptation, today it's the second best, right after tomb raider), but when they made mortal kombat: annihilation two years later, both boon and tobias decided to butt in and write the script themselves. That movie was considered by the critics as one of the worst action movies of the decade, the studio barely won a cent over the budget and for the first time they cancelled the third part in a three-picture deal.

Scorpicus · 07-16-2006, 04:06 PM

What was Schafer fired for? I thought he resigned.

***Thrik*** · 07-16-2006, 04:25 PM

Yeah, I've certainly heard nothing about him being fired. He did indeed leave around the beginning of 2000 to found Double Fine, but as far as I'm aware that was a fully voluntary decision and the natural route for a senior game designer to take in the industry.

But seriously, I really, really doubt this rumour holds any weight. I'd love it to be true of course, but the fact remains that the only thing we've got to go on is the word of some random blog with pretty much zero credibility.

***Thrik*** · 07-16-2006, 04:26 PM

Yeah, I've certainly heard nothing about him being fired. He did indeed leave around the beginning of 2000 to found Double Fine, but as far as I'm aware that was a fully voluntary decision and the natural route for a senior game designer to take in the industry. There's been nothing to suggest he was forcefully ejected from the company, which would be unlikely considering his skill and experience.

But seriously, I really, really doubt this rumour holds any weight. I'd love it to be true of course, but the fact remains that the only thing we've got to go on is the word of some random blog with pretty much zero credibility.

***Thrik*** · 07-16-2006, 04:27 PM

Yeah, I've certainly heard nothing about him being fired. He did indeed leave around the beginning of 2000 to found Double Fine, but as far as I'm aware that was a fully voluntary decision and the natural route for a senior game designer to take in the industry. There's been nothing to suggest he was forcefully ejected from the company, which would be unlikely considering his skill and experience.

But seriously, I really, really doubt this rumour holds any weight. I'd love it to be true of course, but the fact remains that the only thing we've got to go on is the word of some random blog with pretty much zero credibility. Many rumours have passed this community by over the years, and there's nothing to suggest that this will turn into anything more than they did — nothing.

Nick Virago · 07-17-2006, 12:45 AM

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**Smon** · 07-17-2006, 01:00 AM

Entertainment Now sounds much more credible... but the page seems to be in a state of disarray...

itchythesamurai · 07-17-2006, 05:11 AM

I think the Entertainment Now story is just the same old quote with a synopsis of the game above it. There's no way that much of the story would have been released yet. Food for thought, it'd be weird if Burton tried to make it a four-part saga.

***Thrik*** · 07-17-2006, 05:18 AM

Yeah indeed, all that page has is a description of Grim Fandango and then a copy/paste of The Movie Center's 'quote'. And once again, it's just some random site hosted by FreeServers, a free host.

I'm still calling nonsense on this one. :~

Edit: I just noticed that Entertainment Now was seemingly only created at 5am this morning, and hasn't even been crawled/cached by Google yet. I'm beginning to get the feeling that somebody is playing a prank here and putting these random blogs/sites up just to cause a stir.

Let's face it, there's absolutely nothing to suggest these sites have any credibility whatsoever. And if real hollywood insiders or whatever were spilling information like this, they'd use a real site for doing so like Ain't It Cool News.

Fishy as a trout if you ask me!

**Smon** · 07-17-2006, 05:27 AM

Yeah most suspicios...

[Major Armstrong]But I refuse to let the fires of hope within me die this day![/Major Armstrong]

itchythesamurai · 07-17-2006, 05:31 AM

Maybe things will get out of hand and the rumor will spread like crazy and Tim Burton will be like, "Grim Fandango? What's this nonsense then? Hey, this actually sounds good..." Maybe.

Chep · 07-17-2006, 10:31 AM

I don't want a Grim Fandango movie to be like A Nightmare Before Christmas or Corpse Bride. Those films were too dark and not at all similar to our beloved GF.

Nick Virago · 07-17-2006, 01:48 PM

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***Thrik*** · 07-17-2006, 01:59 PM

And yet every single one of them is using The Movie Center's quote as the source. See how we keep ending up back at this totally unestablished blog?

And like was explained earlier in the thread, Wikipedia is 100% community powered. Anybody can edit any article on there at any time, including you and me. It doesn't hold up if the facts can't be supported by a credible source.

***Thrik*** · 07-17-2006, 04:37 PM

Okay, the game's up. Thanks to James Isaac for doing the research.

As we can see, The Movie Center posted its 'quote' from Tim Burton about the Grim Fandango movie back on July 6th. A day later on July 7th, a detailed Wikipedia article created by somebody using the nickname "Wesborland" popped up. Take a look at this guy's contribution history and you'll see that he has been continually modifying the article ever since.

As you can see from reading through this thread, a user called Nick_Virago joined the Grim Fandango Discussion forums on July 9th asking whether or not anyone's heard anything about a Grim Fandango movie. A few posts later Nick claimed to have stumbled across this information on The Movie Center and Wikipedia:

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Originally Posted by Nick_Virago

well, according to wikipedia and the movie center, the production of this movie was briefly announced, and there is no telling when the filming will begin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grim_Fandango:_The_Movie
The Movie Center

Take note of Nick's direct implication that he found the Wikipedia article.

Ever since, Nick has been posting links to all manner of obscure websites that 'back up' the original rumour, all of which reside on free hosting and/or reference The Movie Center as the source. Thing is, some of these sites haven't existed on the internet for more than a few days, and Entertainment Now hasn't even been discovered/crawled by Google at the time of writing.

Today on July 17th, someone called wes_borland left a comment over on the World of Monkey Island about the movie. Yes, the same guy who created the Wikipedia article a week and a half ago.

The best bit? I had a word with Dalixam over at the World of Monkey Island and it turns out that we've got an IP match between Nick_Virago and Wesborland/wes_borland. This guy has been directing us towards sites of his own creation while maintaining the act that he's been finding them.

Nice.

I say, I say · 07-17-2006, 04:47 PM

Well, the deception is laid bare for all to see, alongside the deceiver.
Bad show really, besides April Fools is a long way behind/in front of us give or take.

**Smon** · 07-17-2006, 05:00 PM

*pulls out a pitchfork*

How dare you Nick!? I used to think you were cool.

SteveBB · 07-17-2006, 05:12 PM

I ban you because you said there was going to be a grim fandango movie!

wrong thread?

**Smon** · 07-17-2006, 05:15 PM

Yes wrong thread.

Although I'm angry Nick, kudos! You started a rumor that spread over to Attack of the Show! You made something horrible that got on television! NOW DIE.

King Dando · 07-17-2006, 05:56 PM

Manny: *Punches Nick in the face*

Virago: Oof...What? Was that for [all the lies I told]?

Manny: No. That was just for being you. I don't have time to get you for [spreading rumors of a Grim Fandango movie which have since be proved false], but I'm sure somebody will.

Nick Virago · 07-17-2006, 06:35 PM

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***Thrik*** · 07-17-2006, 06:43 PM

Yeah, because GameSpot isn't quoting your 'The Movie Center' or anything.

Nice try, but you didn't cover your tracks well enough — sorry.

Nick Virago · 07-17-2006, 06:48 PM

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***Thrik*** · 07-17-2006, 07:04 PM

**Smon** · 07-17-2006, 07:07 PM

You have to admit Nick, using a wikipedia article YOU edited isn't exactly something you should present as evidence.

Chep · 07-17-2006, 09:32 PM

LoL, seriously do something better with your time.