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Old 09-16-2006, 11:16 PM   #1
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Danish Animal Bordellos... apparently it's okay

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...cle1458080.ece

Should Norway's laws be changed?

Perhaps Dagobahn can tell us what opinion Norwegians have of animal sex?

To tell you the truth, I don't know much about it. Perhaps it isn't a bad thing though I couldn't imagine it being a 'good thing'.

I just haven't looked into it. Should this type of thing be legal?

You tell me.
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Old 09-16-2006, 11:21 PM   #2
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Holy ****. How the **** does a civilized country not outlaw beastiality? Besides it being potentially dangerous (like that man who died a few months ago in Washington while having sex with a horse), it's also a form of animal cruelty/exploitation.



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Old 09-17-2006, 12:16 AM   #3
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Good f***ing grief. How could a European country not outlaw that?

I'm sure what's worse; that people want to have sex with animals, or that the government actually has to stop people from doing it.


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Old 09-17-2006, 01:25 AM   #4
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"The animals want sex" So someone learned how to speak Dog or Horse to determine the animal's wishes?
Yeah, and women can be raped because they supposedly want sex, too.


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Old 09-17-2006, 02:02 AM   #5
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Well there are guys who are into being drilled with griant strapons, so who knows?

From what I can tell it's a grey area. By that you cannot really find sites that offer child porn, which is illegal, where as there are web sites that allow you to buy bestiality products.
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Old 09-17-2006, 03:48 AM   #6
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Hmmm..."Don't spank your kids, but come on into our barnyard brothels, and have a **** at a horse or two."


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Old 09-17-2006, 03:54 AM   #7
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Apparently dogs are right into it. That might be where people get the idea it's what the animal wants.
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Old 09-17-2006, 07:28 AM   #8
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A-a-nd Nancy submits the first well-thought-out posts of the thread.

(I'm slightly surprised that a topic is started on this, ignoring our idiotic "justice system"'s civil rights abuse and disrespect towards sexual abuse victims. It would appear that to Good Sir Knight, unborn babies and animals rank higher than us humans. But that's off-topic, I suppose)

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Perhaps Dagobahn can tell us what opinion Norwegians have of animal sex?
Or you could read the article, which you obviously haven't.

First of all, it discusses Danish "bordellos", not Norwegian ones (for you information, Denmark and Norway are separate countries, much like the US and Mexico). Furthermore, the article quotes a good deal of people against the animal sex. It's not socially accepted.

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Holy ****. How the **** does a civilized country not outlaw beastiality?
It's a loophole, as it says in the article. Laws aren't that easy to change.

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"The animals want sex"
Says the bordello owners. If you visit a child brothel in Thailand, you'll probably be told the children want sex, too.

Reading on: "It could be that the animals don't really care," Knævelsrud said. "But I think it is in the nature of the case that animals will often be victims of injury, stress or suffering in connection with sexual acts with humans. Either that they are held fast, or frightened, or suffer pain or physical injury," Knævelsrud said.

Yeah, sure, no problem in Norway with animal sex.


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Old 09-17-2006, 01:50 PM   #9
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Not only did the OP get the wrong country (one wonders if his intent was discussion or simply baiting Dag. Eagle) in the title of the thread, but the opening post falls face first in a mess of logical fallacy. Mostly non sequitur.

That a Norwegian Newspaper has a story on Danish animal bordellos in no way implies that Norwegians think the matter "okay" any more than the citizens of Oregon or New Jersey think the matter to be "okay." Norway, Oregon, and New Jersey are each without laws that prohibit bestiality. Many countries are without such laws.

Indeed, the very fact that a Norwegian reporter and news organization is willing to question the matter and report that there is new legislation under way that may address the issue might even indicate that many Norwegians find the matter as anything but okay.

At any rate, I've updated the title of the thread for accuracy (since Norway doesn't appear to have these 'bordellos').


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Old 09-17-2006, 04:42 PM   #10
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Thank you, Skinwalker. Excellent post.

I also wonder where Good Sir Knight got this article from. I assume he is not a frequent reader of Aftenposten, so it's likely that he got it from some outraged poster somewhere else on the Web, and passed it on to this board without thinking. There's a lot of that going around on the Internet nowadays.

Either way, he is very likely better off fighting Norwegian human rights violations (oh, that's right, they're just humans ):
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"On the Internet, Danish animal owners advertise openly that they offer sex with animals, without intervention from police or other authorities", Danish newspaper 24timer reports.
And on the same Internet (think Kazaa), people openly submit child pornography and pictures of naked people taken and submitted without their consent

- without significant intervention from the law.

I assume that means child porn is accepted by the majority of people in the world, then [/sarcasm]?


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Old 09-17-2006, 06:03 PM   #11
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Kazaa? I remember that, friend of mine used to entrsp pedophiles there, he offered various images he said depicted child rape, mutilation, ect (it was really just the FBI logo) and then report their usernames. Apparently the athorities are meant to be able to crack down on file sharing programs now and hunt down those who have illegal content.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:24 AM   #12
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And on the same Internet (think Kazaa), people openly submit child pornography and pictures of naked people taken and submitted without their consent

- without significant intervention from the law.

I assume that means child porn is accepted by the majority of people in the world, then [/sarcasm]?
Yeah, child porn is one of those things that'll really raise my hackles, but that's another thread.

I say report the 'animal bordellos' to PETA while working on getting laws passed against this. I'm betting they'd love to go stomp on that for awhile.


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Old 09-18-2006, 11:12 AM   #13
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Thank you, Skinwalker. Excellent post.

I also wonder where Good Sir Knight got this article from. I assume he is not a frequent reader of Aftenposten, so it's likely that he got it from some outraged poster somewhere else on the Web, and passed it on to this board without thinking. There's a lot of that going around on the Internet nowadays.

Either way, he is very likely better off fighting Norwegian human rights violations (oh, that's right, they're just humans ):--Wiki

And on the same Internet (think Kazaa), people openly submit child pornography and pictures of naked people taken and submitted without their consent

- without significant intervention from the law.

I assume that means child porn is accepted by the majority of people in the world, then [/sarcasm]?
How is all this relevant to his questions?

Note that I'm not advocating anything, I think the dude is a troll but you seem to love making "politician" posts; big long posts that say a lot but don't say much at all if you get what I mean.

Sorry for being stupid.

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