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Darth Revan 54 29.51%
The Exile 15 8.20%
Both 45 24.59%
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Old 04-08-2007, 04:23 PM   #121
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I would not want to play as anyone previously played. I think HK-47 and T3-M4 should be playable as side characters, but not Rev or Ex.

I think your character should be REALLY choosable and customizable. I think you should be able to choose from a multiple of different species and change a multiple of different body features. I would also like to see some other interesting characters. Maybe a few Sith or some other long lost Jedi.
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Old 05-07-2007, 07:29 PM   #122
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KOTOR III comes out 2007


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Old 05-07-2007, 08:26 PM   #123
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KOTOR III comes out 2007
What the hell?? It is 2007. If it was coming out this year, we would've heard something about it by now.


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Old 05-07-2007, 10:54 PM   #124
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So, I'm a n00b here on the boards, but I've played I and II plenty of times through to hopefully be qualified to have an opinion.

First off, whoever made the implication that HK-47 wasn't the coolest robot ever, go throw yourself in a sarlacc pit for heresey. If I had a robot, it would be HK-47.

So, naturally, HK-47 (and, I'm guessing, the Ebon Hawk) would return, as would T3-M4. (It would be an interesting "starter plot" -- play as HK-47 and T3-M4 to go search for *insert main character here*)

Now, I don't want Carth back. At all. Two reasons:

A) If I had the chance to slowly torture a character from the KotOR games, it would be Carth. I can't stand him.

B) He's a bleeding Admiral of the Republic Fleet. He wouldn't be doing much. Coming back as a Point of contact like in TSL? Perhaps. But not as a playable character, it simply wouldn't make sense.

Also, I want the Genoharadan back. They rock. In fact, I think I want the Rodian Hulas) to be a member of the party. How awesome would that be? Better than Carth, I assure you.

So, who do we have right now...

*main character*
Hulas
HK-47
T3-M4

Six left...

So, I'm thinking that the plot would revolve around "What the hell is happening in the Unknown Regions?" THat is, after all, where the other KotORs left off. Therefore, the main character would go about and head there with his party (forgetting the fact Revan and the Exile couldn't take anyone).

So...

Later on, you're doing your thing, and then you realize why Revan and the Exile left everyone behind. What it is, I don't know, nor care. What matters is, all of your allies are either dead, incapacitated, or get back to Republic space. You're about to die, and there comes...

Revan and the Exile (which would be awesome if you could take your data from your previous games and upload them to the next one, like you could for the Golden Sun games, so Revan and the Exile are YOUR Revan and the Exile, except Revan gets his awesome armour, because you can't beat it :P). So after some ass-kicking, your new party consists of:

You
Revan
Exile
T3-M4
HK-47

I'm thinking this would be okay, too, since there is no mention whatsoever about what HAPPENS to Revan and the Exile.

Now, for character listings:

For returning characters I'd like to see:

*HK-47 (playable)
*T3-M4 (playable)
*Hulas (playable)
*Bastila (no preference)
*Jolee Bindo (no preference -- I'm assuming Bindo and Bastila would be on the new Jedi Council)
*Nihilus (not playable -- it wouldn't make sense regardless of your allignment)
*Mandalore (not playable)

My mind is shot, I can't think of anything else right now.
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:01 PM   #125
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I think it should be:

You
Atton
Bao-dur
Hk-47
T3-M4

With special appearances by Bastila, Jolee, Carth, and Juhani.

Trying to find the Exile and Revan sounds a bit better than starting with them in your party.
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:08 PM   #126
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Let's start with a list:

-Jedi Padawan (You)
-Mentor Figure (Bastila in K1, Kreia in K2, Mentor Figure in K3)
-Mandalore
-T3-M4
-HK-47
-Empty Slot 1
-Empty Slot 2
-Empty Slot 3
-Empty Slot 4
-Male/Female Only Character
-Light/Dark Only Character

The Mentor Figure, the Empty Slots, and the M/F and L/D Characters should be original creations, new characters to stuff the Party. If we see anyone from K2, it should be only within cameos.


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Old 05-08-2007, 06:10 AM   #127
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I didn't read it all so this might have been posted before, But i'd say if, and this is a big IF they'll even gonna create Kotor 3, I'd like it to be with at least these characters: Bastila,Carth,Mira, cause in kotor 2 you'll see a brief cutscene with Admiral Carth Onasi and Bastila, and if you'll end the game as a lightsider you'll get Mira to survive, Revan is wandering somewhere in the Outer Rim, so if they'll gonna follow the story, The Exile won't cross they're path... and all of the other is dead do to the shuttlecrash on Malachor V, so hk47 and the other Droid will survive the shuttlecrash, since they're droids, Canderous(Mandalore) is dead, same goes for Atton,Bao-Dur, the only one who can survive this shuttlecrash is Visas do to the thing that she survived the destrucion of the Miraluka world, and if you're on the lightside in kotor 2 you'll see Bao-durs remote will crush Goto, but if it's vice versa, that means your Exile is on the darkside Goto will crush the remote, this is also if they'll ever create kotor 3: one cool thing to play as is a Twilek female, or you could have a new Twilek female as npc character, her name nonetheless i'm uncertain about.. Handmaiden is also killed in the shuttlecrash... So if they'll gonna go after the story i'd like it to be the kotor 1 story, since it's a longer game... and i would also have more new npc's I've never seen before... rather then have all the old npc's, but as stated in the top i'd like some...

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Old 05-08-2007, 11:11 AM   #128
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Okay the key problem with that idea is there are only a few characters that span both games that no matter what your alignment they are alive.

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Atton Rand
Bao-dur
HK-47
T3-M4
Canderous


Everyone else is dependent on the Gender, and or alignment of Revan or the Exile. Heck Visa can even die in TSL.


KotOR I
Bastila -- Can die in KotOR 1
Carth Onasi -- I think he can die in KotOR 1 not sure though
Jolee Bindo -- Dies if you choose the darkside path
Juhani -- Dies if you choose the Darkside path
Mission Vao -- Dies if you choose the Darkside
Zalibar -- Dies if you choose the Darkside

KotOR II
Kreia -- she dies
Visa -- she can die
Handmaiden -- Dependent on Exile's gender
Mira -- Exile must be Lightside or she is dead
Hanharr -- Exile must be darkside presumably is killed
Disciple --Dependent on Exile's gender
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Old 05-08-2007, 02:46 PM   #129
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No more than 3 or 4 characters from K1 or TSL should join you. Bastila, HK-47, and T3-M4 are really the only ones that are absolutely necessary, and possibly Jolee. So, the party configuration I would like in K3 is -
  • Bastila
  • T3-M4
  • HK-47
  • Jolee/New character (depending on Revan's alignment)
  • New character
  • New character
  • New character
  • New character based on your gender
  • New character based on your alignment


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Old 05-09-2007, 06:58 PM   #130
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Uh there was a chance to kill Bastila in KotOR 1, are you going to bring her back from the dead?
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Old 05-09-2007, 07:05 PM   #131
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Uh there was a chance to kill Bastila in KotOR 1, are you going to bring her back from the dead?
Well, if you are truly light side ( as is canon) you pronounce your love for Bastila and redeem her. Also, you see her in Kotor II. She isn't "dead."


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Old 05-10-2007, 08:37 AM   #132
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How about no one from the prequels in your party? I mean, what's the point in leveling up teethree and HK over and over. Gets repetitive and boring.
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Old 05-10-2007, 12:35 PM   #133
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Well, if you are truly light side ( as is canon) you pronounce your love for Bastila and redeem her. Also, you see her in Kotor II. She isn't "dead."
Actually, she appears only if you set Revan to LSM, DSM, or DSF. If Revan is female and LS, however, Bastila does not appear in TSL.

But even so, you could argue she lived because she in the ending of KotOR regardless of your choices of gender alignment. Yes, even if you killed her...


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Old 05-10-2007, 02:12 PM   #134
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A true light sider wouldn't kill her. As we see in the video of her death (yes, I have tried it before just to see what happens), she kneels down, faces the other direction, you walk up to her, and raise your saber to slice her. Does that sound like a very light side thing to you? Killing a defenseless person in cold blood?

And if Revan was dark side, he obviously wouldn't kill her since she was on his side.

I think that it is very unlikely that Revan would've killed her, even as a LSF. It's just too cold-blooded.


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Old 05-10-2007, 02:17 PM   #135
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IMO the selection of charecter is important and really does shape the story for example Kreia without her there would be no TSL.

So in my opinion these are the charecter I would like to see in your party from the previous games. And the ones I would like to see just not in your party.

Party: Canderous, Handmaiden / Disciple ( there should be a choice to say exile was male/felmale. If female disciple would have a better story line and be less zzzzzZzzzzzZzzzzzZzzzzZzzzz), Mira Or Hanharr ( again effected by choice of exile alighnment), Mission, Zaalbar, Bastila, Carth.

Non Party: Revan, Jedi Exile ( I think both should some how have there face covered and that they should not be in the party due to the fact there are many Jedi Exiles. As players we have created Revan and Exile many times.), Jolee, Juhani ( both if Revan Light ), HK47, T3-M4 everyone else from previous games.


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Old 05-10-2007, 02:55 PM   #136
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I think that it is very unlikely that Revan would've killed her, even as a LSF. It's just too cold-blooded.
But how would Revan be able to convert Bastila back to the LS? For a LSM, Revan and Bastila are in love, so that was easy to get Bastila defect. But for a LSF person, Revan has to use the Jedi Code and spout nonsense to get Bastila to convert, and while the minigame is likely easy, it is possible to lose that mini-game and be forced to murder her.

A LSF Revan has no reason to save Bastila, since Bastila is not in love with him. And a Light Sider could reason that death is preferable to letting her live and suffer through the pains of falling to the Dark Side. It could be that the LSF Revan wanted to save Bastila, but Bastila refuses to save herself, hence it must be done.


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Old 05-10-2007, 02:59 PM   #137
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A true light sider wouldn't kill her. As we see in the video of her death (yes, I have tried it before just to see what happens), she kneels down, faces the other direction, you walk up to her, and raise your saber to slice her. Does that sound like a very light side thing to you? Killing a defenseless person in cold blood?

And if Revan was dark side, he obviously wouldn't kill her since she was on his side.

I think that it is very unlikely that Revan would've killed her, even as a LSF. It's just too cold-blooded.
The only way to kill her isn't execution in cold blood. Regardless of your gender, you may be forced to kill her if you're LS. When you try to talk her back into the light, if she says "You're brave...and some would say foolish" then fine, you've won her over. However, there's a chance you fail to persuade her, and she may say "You're brave...and foolish" instead. Then you can do nothing but fight, and eventually kill her.
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The only way to kill her isn't execution in cold blood. Regardless of your gender, you may be forced to kill her if you're LS. When you try to talk her back into the light, if she says "You're brave...and some would say foolish" then fine, you've won her over. However, there's a chance you fail to persuade her, and she may say "You're brave...and foolish" instead. Then you can do nothing but fight, and eventually kill her.
Yea, I forgot you could kill her in the fight, but I still think it's improbable that she would've fallen so far without the hope of redemption in just a matter of a day or so.

In other words, even though it is possible to kill her, it could be easily excused without making a lot of players too angry.


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Old 05-10-2007, 03:23 PM   #139
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In other words, even though it is possible to kill her, it could be easily excused without making a lot of players too angry.
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Seriously, while I understand that it's okay to rule Bastila is alive, I guess, well, I don't see the need. Carth needed to remain alive, as he is the love interest of Revan for a female, and could easily wax all day on how pretty Revan is. Does Bastila needs to be alive? Only for a LSM and the Dark Side players. But what does a Bastila for a LSF Revan add for the story? (The McGuffin-like "Battle Medidation"? Turns out anyone can learn it.) The LSF Bastila doesn't love Revan, and her only virtue is being a hot teacher.

Not to mention that little variatons from the other selections of gender and alignment makes your choices seem effective.

What I like to have is that let Bastila not appear for a LSF Revan in K3. You decide if Bastila is alive or not. Heh, you could even rename your character "Bastila" and have Bastila be the Jedi Padawan, if you are interested.


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Old 05-10-2007, 03:27 PM   #140
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The LSF Bastila doesn't love Revan, and her only virtue is being a hot teacher.
Is that not a good enough reason?

I suppose it's not necessary, but I'd still like to see her be in it no matter what.


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Old 05-10-2007, 04:39 PM   #141
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Seriously, while I understand that it's okay to rule Bastila is alive, I guess, well, I don't see the need. Carth needed to remain alive, as he is the love interest of Revan for a female, and could easily wax all day on how pretty Revan is. Does Bastila needs to be alive? Only for a LSM and the Dark Side players. But what does a Bastila for a LSF Revan add for the story? (The McGuffin-like "Battle Medidation"? Turns out anyone can learn it.) The LSF Bastila doesn't love Revan, and her only virtue is being a hot teacher.

Not to mention that little variatons from the other selections of gender and alignment makes your choices seem effective.

What I like to have is that let Bastila not appear for a LSF Revan in K3. You decide if Bastila is alive or not. Heh, you could even rename your character "Bastila" and have Bastila be the Jedi Padawan, if you are interested.
Let me ask the obvious questioin: If Bastila is dead for LSF Revan,then why does she appear in the end-movie, even if you killed her?

And is the fact that LSF Revan does not love Bastila a reason to kill her? There were lots of people in KotOR that my Revan didn't love, but I sure didn't kill them all, especially not when LS...

Besides, if you're a good little LS jedi, then you'll want to redeem Bastila simply because it's the morally correct and right thing to do.

And no, not everybody can learn Battle Meditation. Don't let the use of the power's name in TSL fool you. As much as I like TSL, some of the powers are just stupid. Battle Meditation is completely misnamed in TSL. It should have been named "combat meditation" or "melee meditation" instead. It works a bit like Battle Meditation, yes, albeit on a far, far lesser scale. TSL's Battle Meditation merely lets you buff your party. True Battle Meditation, as used by Bastila and Nomi Sunrider, affects EVERYONE in a battle - even a huge spacebattle with hundreds or thousands of ships. That's why Bastila's power is so great a threat to Malak that he bombs Taris just to make sure she's dead. It's also why it's so important for Revan to use or stop against the Republic in the ending, depending on alignment.


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Old 05-10-2007, 08:16 PM   #142
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Let me ask the obvious questioin: If Bastila is dead for LSF Revan,then why does she appear in the end-movie, even if you killed her?
Programming mishap. Oversight by Bioware. They really didn't care.

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And is the fact that LSF Revan does not love Bastila a reason to kill her? There were lots of people in KotOR that my Revan didn't love, but I sure didn't kill them all, especially not when LS...
No, Bastila does not love the LSF Revan. That makes it hard for a LSF Revan to redeem Bastila, meaning that LSF Revan may be forced to kill her off.

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But if you fail, you will have to stab Bastila. It's harder to redeem Bastila if you are a Female.

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I'd concur that it is stupid, but, well, er, it did play a role in the Onderon Battle. The troops were fighting, and then you mediate, just like Bastila, and you helped your Side defeat the Other Side.

I don't know why in the world did they put that power in there. But they did. And since they did, it seems Bastila becomes not as useful. You can learn Battle Medidation in TSL, meaning that Bastila's power can also be learnt by other people than Ms. Shan.

Usually, in a story, you put in all the stuff you need, and get rid of anything excess or unneeded. Bastila for the LSF Revan is unneeded, her story has been told.


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Old 05-17-2007, 04:17 PM   #143
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Iíd like to know what happens to Revan, and possibly the Exile. Iím not sure that I would want to play as either, though. On the other hand, Iím not happy about a new character either; It seem to me that a new character would require a time gap between TSL and Kotor3 of perhaps 10-25 years. Revan was the heart of the Force, and the Exile was heartless (a kind of hole in the Force), so where does that leave room for a third? Having some Force sensitive which can match either the Exile or Revan appear anytime soon after TSL (or at all) is simply ridiculous.

However, what I would like most from Kotor3, is a much more flexible party management than either Kotor or TSL. I think that something a bit like what Troika did in Arcanum, or Black Isle in Plane Scape: Torment might be good. In Arcanum, your character alignment would influence whether some NPCs would join. Also if your alignment changed too much in the wrong direction some NPCs would complain and either attack or leave you. Likewise, I would like to have the ability to tell any party member (see exception below) to leave the party at any time.

I donít think that we absolutely need a party of 9. That does seem to be fairly many to me. Maybe have only the PC and one NPC, with the rest being optional.
If there are cut-scenes, these can be scripted so that no other than the PC or the main NPC need ever be in the party.


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If you are referring to the end cut-scene of Kotor, then it is a bug. It was addressed in the last patch for the pc version.

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And is the fact that LSF Revan does not love Bastila a reason to kill her?
Bastilaís redemption seem to be a two-step thing. First she must be redeemed from the dark side. Part two is to convince her that she still has some reason to live, even though she fell. That part is where Revanís love comes in. A LSF Revan really has nothing to offer Bastila, that would make Bastila want to go on.

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I donít know why in the world did they put that power in there. But they did. And since they did, it seems Bastila becomes not as useful. You can learn Battle Medidation in TSL, meaning that Bastilaís power can also be learnt by other people than Ms. Shan.
It seems that Bioware used what was shown in the TOTJ comics, while Obsidian seems to have used the ďPowers of the JediĒ RPG source book. In that book Battle Meditation is considered a feat, allowing the use of Battle Influence which is described as very short range, maybe 10 meters. With such short range, it is pretty useless in space battles and larger battle fields. As from the description of Bastilaís abilities, she is highly skilled in Battle Meditation, and can use something called Inspire. That can potentially effect allies and enemies within an entire sector. Since the Exile canít use Inspire, he/she will never be of any use in any greater battle.

There is a brief mention of it on the WoTC site, here. Youíll have to scroll down a bit.

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Bastila for the LSF Revan is unneeded, her story has been told.
Exactly the same can be said about Carth for a LSM Revan. Carthís story has been told, he is no more needed for Revan, than Bastila is for a LSF Revan. Yet he appears, so Iím inclined to think that Bastila simply doesnít survive the Star Forge in the LSF story line.
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:35 AM   #144
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My ideal would be neither of them. I think the perfect balance would be this guy that finds Revan before the Exile, or one of his companions that hadn't appeared in the original KOTOR but joined him afterwards, so that this way we have a clear shot at choosing LS or DS while at the same time we don't have to elaborate more on this new character up to the point that he needs his own big story and all that. Kinda like the Exile. He was not a very important guy until the events shaped him as so. From this fresh point of view, assuming you have the crucial decision in your hands, whatever it is, the story would fold as you'd wish to, all falls in place as thy will: Revan, Exile, etc...
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Old 05-24-2007, 07:44 PM   #145
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Simply put, You become Revan again. You customize Revan and the Exile is also in your party. The exile as an undefined character is also customizable in appearance and stats and would have his or her own speaking. This would in turn open a possible romantic involvement with the exile and Revan. Now, other party members... Hk-47 for absolute sure; he is a comedian; you have to love him. Bastila and Carth are some of my favorites. T3-M4 because he was always there. And as someone so interestingly put, "the sexy older guy" Canderous. I love his stories and he is a cool dude. I almost forgot Visas Marr. She is awesome and comes in second to Bastila for love interests. Sorry but I didn't much care for the wookies, so no wookies. Atton is like an early Han Solo so absolutely yes. The possible party(though I wouldn't care one way or another) is Brianna(Handmaiden), Mira, Mical and Bao Dur. Bao Dur is more a yes than a no.


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Old 06-01-2007, 04:08 AM   #146
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I think that HK-47 and T3 should definitly be there, I am for bring back maybe 2 other NPCs but the rest need to be new, this game needs to continue to be creative and not just be a rehashment of the first 2. I see all these people saying the party should be HK-47, T3, Bastila, Visas, Jolee, Reven, The Exile, etc etc, you can't have a party full of jedi, thats silly, maybe u can build someone up to be a jedi like in kotor 2 but alot of these are just silly.
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Old 06-02-2007, 06:29 PM   #147
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I don't think Revan or the Exile should appear as party members at all. They were the leaders of previous parties, and putting either one above or below a new character or one another would simply ruin their individuality. Furthermore, they are old hat; they've had the space to lead their own stories and dominating someone elses or else competing against one another in a story where there should be only one leading party just ain't kosher.

Nevertheless, they will have to be included in the story somehow. Exactly how, I have no idea, though it seems obvious that Revan would be able to appear in his/her old (or similar, less Dark Sided) get-up including full face mask and hood and voice by Rino Romano. As for the Exile... could we go for full facial mutilation? I suppose that it could be possible that we select their appearances through the course of the game; but then it would seem only too obvious that they will both appear later on, and places far too much emphasis on them as characters. I simply don't want them to dominate the screen...

As for other party members... well, like I've said before, characters such as T3, HK and the Candy Man are just getting boring. They were already showing signs of age in The Sith Lords, and 'more of the same' only works so far.

I could accept T3 again, if they upgraded him to be, say, a protocol droid in addition to his current abilities. I can only stand so much annoying whistling and tootling... and working out what a droid is saying by what answers are available. I'm afraid "Tweedle beep frotz" doesn't cut it with me anymore.


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Old 06-02-2007, 10:25 PM   #148
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In my opinion, if they already choose the Exile as female canonically and Revan as a male, choosing a canonical appearance without any player input seems simple, practical and intelligent to me.
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:07 PM   #149
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After reading most of the posts I would agree that T3 and HK be in the party and your character should be someone brand new. Possible story could be that the Exile,Carth and Bastila all went after Revan together and the council has asked you to find out what happened to them, and if this is the case then I would suggest that Dustil be part of the group since he would be trying to figure out what happened to his dad. (bonus he is a jedi/sith already)he could have been studying at the academy or you could find him along the way and he joins you. I would like to see Atton and/or Brianna again and Bao Dur since he was as loyal as they come to the Exile. Other than that more new characters and definately more different aliens to join your party and maybe even being able to choose to play as different aliens like in JA. If the Ebon Hawk is your ship then so be it but I would like to see something new to fly around in.
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Old 06-03-2007, 05:11 AM   #150
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In my opinion, if they already choose the Exile as female canonically and Revan as a male, choosing a canonical appearance without any player input seems simple, practical and intelligent to me.
Revan and exile have fixed genders ONLY outside the games. In the games they are still optional. You can set Revan's alignment and gender in TSL as you choose, so they are committed to preserving those options now.


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Old 06-03-2007, 11:19 AM   #151
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Revan and exile have fixed genders ONLY outside the games. In the games they are still optional. You can set Revan's alignment and gender in TSL as you choose, so they are committed to preserving those options now.
Maybe they are committed so, but in my opinion it is better, easier and logical that in the third game we establish canon gender, appearance and story to both Revan and the Exile, if not, we'll end up with a wishy washy story background like in TSL: The choice of if Revan went LS or DS is almost completely meaningless.
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Old 06-03-2007, 08:10 PM   #152
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i want to have these two join me later in the game- maybe you can use them with about 5-10 hours left in the game
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Old 06-05-2007, 03:51 AM   #153
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Concurrent plotlines that you're able to witness parts of. But I don't particularly want Revan or the Exile in your party. You're fighting against an entity large enough to call itself an Empire, it controls at least several planets. Work with Revan and The Exile, run into them, maybe fight alongside them, but not have them in your party, they're just too powerful. It'd be like having Yoda or Mace Windu in your party.
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Maybe they are committed so, but in my opinion it is better, easier and logical that in the third game we establish canon gender, appearance and story to both Revan and the Exile, if not, we'll end up with a wishy washy story background like in TSL: The choice of if Revan went LS or DS is almost completely meaningless.
Actually, I'd have Revan as DS in K3, but with a twist - if he ended up as LS in K1, then you can redeem him back to the LS. If not, then he's the big baddie that must be killed.

Oh, your alternative is certainly more convenient. But if we're going to argue that way, then simply kill Revan and exile during the opening crawl. Yes, they're dead! End of story, bye-bye. Much more convenient, since setting ANY gender/alignment for Revan OR exile will result in heaps of hatemail no matter which way you turn it.

But I don't want the "convenient" and "practical". There is no reason why a little legwork can't be done to allow all the options, unless the devs (whomever they might be) are incredibly lazy.

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Old 06-05-2007, 12:43 PM   #155
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I did not mean to just let the devs do less work... In any case the choice to be LS or DS as the KOTOR III player character, whoever he is, is still yours. But canonically, and officially it's already like this: Revan was a male human, LS ending with Bastila romance. The Exile was a female human, LS ending with Mical romance. It's already canon. Gotta say I really like the idea to be able to redeem Revan, maybe in a Darth Vader like way.
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Actually, I like the idea of never knowing for sure what happened to Revan and the Exile. The Vader style redemption thing doesn't work because Revan never had children with Bastila.
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Actually, I like the idea of never knowing for sure what happened to Revan and the Exile. The Vader style redemption thing doesn't work because Revan never had children with Bastila.
Ehm... I never even remotely thought or meant that, the children thing. I just meant it in the way Darth Vader is so utterly immersed in the dark side and still he comes back to the light.
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Well why would Revan come back to the light again? You need some reason for him to decide to give up the darkside.
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I don't know... It wasn't my idea. There are surely some possibilities for reasons.
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Well, I guess Most would agree that T3 and HK will be in the party.

So that leaves 7 slots to play with.
I hope most of them would be new characters. I do not mind a brief return of some old characters, but consider that they are already all "leveled up" by now they should not be in the party. Plus, Bastila should be pretty mature now for K3, she will probably be a fat blob, though there is still some chance for her to be a milf.

OK, lets go thru the list of Characters that are NOT POSSABLE TO KILL(BE KILLED) according to any (non modded) storyline.
K1:
1) Mandalore: Had his return in K2.
Bastila can be killed in one of the LS ending. Carl in DSF, Missions & Co in DS, Jedis in LS/DS.

K2:
1) Atton: Merky fate, may/may-not be jedi. Possable PC. (if you want to see him in your party)
2) Bao: As much as it Implies he may have survived. Possably workable PC. But force or not?
3) Mandalor: Ever think of what Level he should be in though? He shoudl be up in Epic Levels by now.
4) Brianna: May have survived Atris attack?? She was Male only though.
5) Mical: It is unfortunate that you cannot kill im in the most painful way, but he makes it. Plue, I really ton't want to be FORCED to take this low life, he fouls up the Hawk.
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