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03-30-2007, 03:33 PM
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[RUMOUR] Kotor MMO in Production.
According to the latest issue of EGM (in the rumour section), Bioware are developing a Knights of the Republic MMORPG.
Awful news if true. Isn't the single player experience why Knights of the Old Republic such a good game?
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03-30-2007, 03:50 PM
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It is, yes. Try not to worry, though. Rumors about K3 are bound to pop up now and then. They have before, too, though this is the first time I've heard it was to be an MMORPG. It would also go totally against the basic concept behind the previous KotOR games.
Nah, I'll believe there's a K3 when Lucasarts itself says so.
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03-30-2007, 05:23 PM
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And those are my two 0.02 €.
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03-30-2007, 05:45 PM
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Yeah...that wouldn't be cool...at all...
Besides, Star Wars MMORPGs don't have a good track record. At all. Let's leave it at SP only and pray that it stays that way. Forever.
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03-30-2007, 06:21 PM
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Think ahead!
That's a very narrow-minded opinion of how Star Wars games should be. Just because the only Star Wars MMO made so far went straight down the drain at the hands of the idiot developers doesn't mean there can't be a good one in the future.
But if there ever is another MMO in the Star Wars universe, I don't want it KOTOR era.
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03-30-2007, 07:36 PM
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We already have SWG, so we don't need another. LA knows this. KotOR III will not be an MMORPG, thankfully.
As I've said before, I won't believe any "news" unless it comes directly from LucasArts or whoever K3's developers will be.
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03-30-2007, 07:42 PM
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Not true. BioWare has stated before that they are not and will not work on KotOR III. They're interested in their own IP now.
Anyway, I doubt it's true if it's not been announced on an official site.
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03-30-2007, 08:26 PM
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03-30-2007, 10:08 PM
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I agree with all those who say that EGM is off their rocker on this one. I just don't see how or why LucasArts would do something like this. Not to mention what Emperor Devon already did about BioWare stating in no uncertain terms that they are not working on KotOR 3.
Of course a KotOR MMO wouldn't technically be KotOR 3 but whatever the case IMO it wouldn't make much sense to have a KotOR MMO.
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03-30-2007, 10:50 PM
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I think LA knows nobody wants another mmo right now...
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03-31-2007, 02:52 AM
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That's a very narrow-minded opinion of how Star Wars games should be. Just because the only Star Wars MMO made so far went straight down the drain at the hands of the idiot developers doesn't mean there can't be a good one in the future.
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The problem is that people want to play as a Jedi, no matter what happens. Only the flight sims and Rogue Squadron managed to avoid the problem because it would make little sense to have a pilot wield a saber while sitting in his cockpit. Hey, look at what happened to Battlefront. The second one had to include playable Jedi even though, IMO, they're unnecessary.
Star Wars games without Jedi have had little success.
There's too many balance problems to consider. The Jedi can't be too powerful because then nobody would play another character class. It can't be too weak or else it wouldn't be true to the source material. Not having them playable will just have hordes of whiners crying for lightsabers or "it ain't Star Wars".
Whichever developer gets to do another Star Wars MMO would need to have huge testes to resist the fan pressure for Jedi inclusion. Unfortunately, there is no such developer.
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03-31-2007, 06:11 AM
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That's a very narrow-minded opinion of how Star Wars games should be. Just because the only Star Wars MMO made so far went straight down the drain at the hands of the idiot developers doesn't mean there can't be a good one in the future.
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Eh..it ain't narrow-minded at all, Imo.
There is already a SW MMO. If they'd decide to create another one, it would be a stupid, because SW-fans would have to choose. Not to mention the loss of a single-player RPG franchise. It would ruin their Kotor-fanbase.
Plus, how do you plan on making the story well? After all, Galaxies ruinied the complete EU with it's "Obi-Wan Appearance" , "HK-cameo" , and all.
If you'd make an MMo out of it, it wouldn't work. Because K2 explained there are only a few Jedi left. How do you exlain several millions of Jedi running around the servers then? 
Same goed for the missions. According to EU, a padawan is 'coupled' to a Master. If you want to make an MMO, we'd have one NPC Jedi Master, with as much as the afformentioned 2 million padawans.
To conclude:
MMO: NO
SP RPG: YES
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03-31-2007, 03:02 PM
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There is already a SW MMO. If they'd decide to create another one, it would be a stupid, because SW-fans would have to choose. Not to mention the loss of a single-player RPG franchise.
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03-31-2007, 10:08 PM
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Not a chance...There's no way Lucasarts would allow two Star Wars MMORPG's at the same time, they would just be stealing their own profits. I'd love to play one though; I just can't take SWG seriously at all.
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04-01-2007, 01:43 AM
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A KOTOR MMO wouldn't go much anywhere. Galaxies is the only one they need. If they wanted, I guess they could make an expansion for it, but I doubt it'd be K3 itself. But whatever there's not much point on discussing this any further...
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04-07-2007, 05:17 AM
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Il stick with SP,but if an MMORPG was made its one of those damn Galaxies Expansion pack,i have the first 3(i got these for 2005 christmas,my aunt got them from america)and thanks but no thanks,i would play galaxies if it woulnt be so damn expensive!!!(i would play RS member instead and we know how people think RS Sucks to hell),RS is 5 dollars,SWG is like so-WOW-price-like.in estonian money(kroon)its like 75(RS) and i dont know how much thar SWG price is.The same money i can spend if i played galaxies i could buy KOTOR 1 of 2.
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04-07-2007, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bitmap212
According to the latest issue of EGM (in the rumour section), Bioware are developing a Knights of the Republic MMORPG.
Awful news if true. Isn't the single player experience why Knights of the Old Republic such a good game?
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If Galaxies is anything to go by, this won't work especially if its with SOE.
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04-07-2007, 09:53 AM
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I scoffed at the notion when I heard about this. Absolutely ridiculous.
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04-07-2007, 10:30 AM
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In my opinion, role playing games should never be played online, there's no way you can have a decent story and everything that makes an RPG what it is when you're playing online.
I call BS
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04-12-2007, 08:21 AM
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Yeah, if this becomes a reality i think it may destroy the Kotor franchise, i mean i'll still play the games and enjoy the single player ones but it just won't help it more i think. I wouldn't like to lose that reality of me being the greatest hero in the Star Wars universe
I mean i bet every one who has played the Kotor games hasn't ran around the room after completeling the game, twirling a toy lightsaber around, making "swooshing" noises and shouting, "I'm Revan, bow down before me for i am your master!"
Bringing Kotor online would just make me sad, i wouldn't like to be travelling around with a million other exiles. 
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04-12-2007, 10:07 AM
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YOU ARE DESTINED TO DEFEAT LORD MALIK!
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04-12-2007, 10:44 AM
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Hehehehehe
Nice one Prime...
But your so out of it, i completed that quest years ago, god... :P:P
Maybe you should stick to the single-player kotor games...:P:P
Leave the online Kotor to the men. 
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04-13-2007, 12:31 AM
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YOU ARE DESTINED TO DEFEAT LORD MALIK!
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04-13-2007, 03:07 AM
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It's false. As Moeller said, nobody wants another MMO now, especially after WoW stole everybody's subscribers. And secondly, KotOR is a strictly single-player franchise (I hope) and it will not be taken multiplayer, ever.
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04-13-2007, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Sabretooth
It's false. As Moeller said, nobody wants another MMO now, especially after WoW stole everybody's subscribers. And secondly, KotOR is a strictly single-player franchise (I hope) and it will not be taken multiplayer, ever.
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I'd like to see some sort of multiplayer option in Kotor 3, maybe in the swoop racing minigame - i think it'll give the series a nice twist; but a Kotor MMO i believe will destroy the series. Like so many have said it's a single-player only franchise and should stay that way. Besides, who would want to pay playing fees for a Kotor experience when you can just buy Kotor 1&2 and play that instead - a ridiculous idea at best!
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04-13-2007, 10:08 AM
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But your so out of it, i completed that quest years ago, god... :P:P
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But you must do it again...and again...and again. 
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04-13-2007, 10:59 AM
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But you must do it again...and again...and again.
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....because there is a slim chance the quest reward will be the 'Awesome Toewarmer of +5 vs Ewoks'
Can't play the game without it 
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04-13-2007, 11:21 AM
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But you must do it again...and again...and again.
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Hmm, damn, didn't know that.
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Got 'em, Uber pwnage. Innit.
Another thing why they shouldn't bring Kotor online, i can't stand all that online talk:
n00b, nub, pwned, pwnage, etc.
Character: In you face Revan! I uber pwned you! Go home and play with the
other n00bcakes!
Revan: Eh?
Character: I dunno either, but everyone else says stuff like that.
Revan: Damn, i should never of signed that deal with lucasarts.
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04-19-2007, 04:02 AM
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KOTOR Mentioned in EGM for MAy issue
While we all know you can't trust rumors, this month there was a reather specific rumor about KOTOR. Basically, the Rumor Mill guy says that Bioware is forming a new team to create a MMO version of KOTOR.
While this is obviously just a rumor, it is exciting to think of the possibility. He also says that the same source told him that The PC Exclusive Dragon Age from Bioware will also be coming to the PS3 and that the new DS game is Baulder's Gate. So if those come true, it gives the MMO game a better chance.
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04-19-2007, 05:04 AM
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Hmmm.... hmmmm....
hmmmmmmm....
well crap.  If it's indeed true, that is.
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04-19-2007, 05:50 AM
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They are desecrating the KotOR legacy if they do that!
Although, i will try to play it if it is true.
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04-19-2007, 05:53 AM
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I highly doubt this. I don't think Lucasarts wants to touch another MMORPG. SWG is a disaster!
If it is true however, I think it is the worst thing that could possible happen in the series. I played Knights of the Old Republic after getting very tired of every MMORPG I was playing (EQ, EQII, SWG). It was like an awakening! I realized the problem with MMORPG's, is that everybody wants to be the center of attention.
Take SWG for example. They originally wanted Jedi to be VERY rare. Problem was, EVERYBODY wanted to be a Jedi. So they gave in, and now everybody can be a Jedi. Of course, being a Jedi is no longer special because of that.
If they make a Knights of the Old Republic MMORPG, you will have everybody wanting to be Revan/Exile/etc. Obviously, that can't happen.
The best part about Knights of the Old Republic was the story. I don't see how a truly good story can exist with an MMORPG, in which players believe they are actually a part of it.
If Bioware can pull that off, that could be interesting. Frankly, I have EXTREME doubts as to whether an MMORPG of this kind can work. Personally, I would much rather see the series continue with single player games. That way, everybody is the center of the story.
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04-19-2007, 07:37 AM
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The KotOR MMO rumor, perpetuated by EGM, has already been brought up in the [RUMOR] KotOR MMO in Production thread.
I submit a motion for thread consolidation. 
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04-19-2007, 09:38 AM
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I second the motion for thread merger and vote for it. Voting unanimous, motion carries. Thread merged.
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04-19-2007, 12:27 PM
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Well, everyone is afraid that it will replace KOTOR 3. Maybe not? Maybe it's just an MMO in the KotOR timeline. Everyone being a Jedi does make sense now. A lot more then in Galaxies.
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04-19-2007, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mister Chief
While we all know you can't trust rumors, this month there was a reather specific rumor about KOTOR. Basically, the Rumor Mill guy says that Bioware is forming a new team to create a MMO version of KOTOR.
While this is obviously just a rumor, it is exciting to think of the possibility. He also says that the same source told him that The PC Exclusive Dragon Age from Bioware will also be coming to the PS3 and that the new DS game is Baulder's Gate. So if those come true, it gives the MMO game a better chance.
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No! That's not true!! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!
NOOOOOOOoooooooooooo.......
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04-19-2007, 01:41 PM
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No! That's not true!! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!
NOOOOOOOoooooooooooo.......
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Search your feelings Jediphile..... You Know it to be True!
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04-19-2007, 02:35 PM
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Search your feelings Jediphile..... You Know it to be True!
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NOOOOOooooo - NOOOOOOOooooooo.....
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04-19-2007, 03:29 PM
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I actually found some MMORPG engines and I thought of converting them into creating a Star Wars MMORPG, taking place during the Great Hyperspace War. It would be a stragery game though, and Jedi would just be military units being used by generals to blow up enemies. It would be less like Runescape and more like running around like merchants getting tons of credits.
If there is demand for MMORPGs, should I actually make such a game and thereby stop LA from doing such stupidty, ruining the KOTOR era to make a couple of bucks? I would rather ruin any era rather than the KOTOR era...and actually playing in the Great Hyperspace War might actually be fun.
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I would be supremely disappointed if an MMO came out. I might consider amputating my own leg in frustration. As a temporary dialup user this prospect leaves me out of the loop, which is not where I want to be in the kotor community. Blast it all!!! I wouldn't even consider destroying kotor is so petty an manner. And even worse I would have to buy it and spend many days playing this game anyway, because afterall it would be part of kotor.
Savior, conquerer, Hero, Villian... You are all things Revan, and yet you are nothing. In the end you belong to neither the darkness nor the light. You will forever stand alone.
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