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Old 02-15-2009, 05:13 PM   #41
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happy days - mots, the golden years of gaming? hell yes.

stumbled across this site http: //jkdf2.net/ alot of old mots players and jk players are on the forums here, lots of interesting reading here and some memoriable names. some people still play by the looks of it.
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:50 PM   #42
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HOLY ****

Hi all, I also found this by random google entry, most of the posts look like a year ago but oh well, here's to the memories!

I was kendojedi btw, i remember so many of you guys.
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Old 03-31-2009, 03:20 AM   #43
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Old 04-10-2009, 03:27 AM   #44
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Jumpin Jesus on a pogo stick batman...

This is what I get for smokin a bowl and doing random google searches and there are even new posts!? This is almost as disturbing as finding Dragonfire's family shots with someone wearing bib overalls sans shirt (yes I did find that and my mind is still trying to cope).

Gaming past?
I bounced around games since the death of the zone. Started playing EQ with Cowb0y and then started playin SWG with Pyreus and Cowb0y and went back and forth until EQ finally died (IMO) to play SWG. Played that for a while mainly goofing off until the NGE hit, quit for a while and then came back once classes were a bit more established to PVP!

Now I play WoW because SWG and EQ are dead and EQ2 and the rest of them suck.

Real Life?
While it is hard to stomach that we played MotS and JK 10 years ago, yes 10 ****ing years, and I was only 18/19 at the time I am now a Graphic Artist for the City of Chicago and quite comfortable here. I still smoke the occasional bowl (Hey suffo!@@ 3 2 1 ... GOOOOOO) and I still say Bud Ice is the worst thing invented by man and only retarded redneck people in California drink it (This means you neeeko).

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Catch me on Cenarius in WOW as Ledef or Confed
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I still do open up ICQ on occasion even if it is to laugh when I see Rage AFK for the 928372103897129837 day in a row.

For the super cool email me and I will give you the info to the Batcave (The vent where Pyreus Cowb0y and myself hang out with other WoW / SWG folk.)
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Old 04-10-2009, 10:56 PM   #45
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MOTS is alive and well in my computer ...along with most of the rest of the great SW games...and i am collecting all the mods and maps for them all,...great games all of them each in their own way, and many revivals and updates and great mods still being made and new projects underway today!. good to see old players checking in. The Force is strong!


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Old 04-11-2009, 12:29 AM   #46
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If anyone is interested in playing again I am always up for a game of MotS

perhaps we should plan something?

www.jkdf2.net will be hosting all the files for mots and JK soon... its currently under construction by me and ReT right now but once we are up you guys should all head that way so we can play again!


JKLE one of the last active JK and MotS clans out there jkle.jkdf2.net
Legends return one last time
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Old 04-11-2009, 03:59 PM   #47
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Old school JK/MotS player here (for any that didn't know).

Sadly, I haven't had time for online games much in the last 3.5 years due to grad school.

But, I did meet somebody at school who wanted to try out JK2/JA. As for classic JK/MotS I'd love to, but I don't know when I'll have time. PERHAPS this summer (after May 8th). Email is the best way to reach me these days (kurgan @ qwest.net).

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Old 04-11-2009, 10:11 PM   #48
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BTW jkdf2.net is back up! so guys check out the mots board we got on there!

and Kurgan!!!!!!! man I havent seen you in forever... JKLE Reunion this summer is a must, Nick and Vallo are still around... Ross sadly has moved on to battlefront and the likes

if you are free this summer man we all gotta play some good ol MotS and some JK Co-op

now if only someone would make a mots co op....


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Old 04-14-2009, 02:08 AM   #49
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Bzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......

Hehe, ouch Pun now you're throwing shots...
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Old 05-16-2009, 07:38 PM   #50
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I kid... I kid...

What are you up to these days, Bee?
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Old 05-23-2009, 04:25 AM   #51
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You fkin liar pun. You know you're not kidding...


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Old 05-28-2009, 11:12 PM   #52
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I kid... I kid...

What are you up to these days, Bee?
Ummm, first off HEY! to all you OLD SCHOOL MoTS players. (that goes to you to Amer). I miss those days and I wish we could all go back so I can beat all your asses again.


What Ive been up to, Im 28 now, married and have two boys Luke and Taylor which are 3 and 6. We recently bought our first house in Vancouver Washington.
Im an electrician for Ibew local 48 in the Portland area here.


If you or anyone wants to try to get a game together or just bs in the future here is my email cce633@tmail.com
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....








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Old 06-08-2009, 04:33 PM   #53
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Sup all, I was "GoldenWulf" and "ENFORCER" (lol...) back in the day. I don't exactly remember being revered, but I was also like 12 years old at the time. All these dudes were gods to me, nice to see everyone is still around.
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:46 PM   #54
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:29 PM   #55
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Ummm, first off HEY! to all you OLD SCHOOL MoTS players. (that goes to you to Amer). I miss those days and I wish we could all go back so I can beat all your asses again.


What Ive been up to, Im 28 now, married and have two boys Luke and Taylor which are 3 and 6. We recently bought our first house in Vancouver Washington.
Im an electrician for Ibew local 48 in the Portland area here.


If you or anyone wants to try to get a game together or just bs in the future here is my email cce633@tmail.com
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....








Later and DA YO
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small world it is, I work in lake oswego and grew up in the Portland Area. When I get home I'm going to post some good owned SS's ftw.


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Old 07-23-2009, 11:48 AM   #56
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Funny one I found, I can't believe I still have crap this old.

KenpoX> im sick of this whole "clan" thing
(Exit)> IR_Slave
xX__MAX__Xx> that's why i quit
(Exit)> PUNISHER_TQ
KenpoX> ya... sure
xX__MAX__Xx> ok
KenpoX> to start MD
xX__MAX__Xx> ass
(Enter)> PUNISHER_TQ
xX__MAX__Xx> i'm not in MD punk ass
KenpoX> dont BS me
KenpoX> whereever cap goes... yer sure to follow
_Sirbob_> lol
xX__MAX__Xx> why are you acting like an *******?
KenpoX> along wit the rest
_Sirbob_> hehe
KenpoX> cause im sick of the ****
_Sirbob_> get him max
xX__MAX__Xx> no reaon to
xX__MAX__Xx> reason
_Sirbob_> ah
KenpoX> In my book there is ONLY a few JOTS memvers that derserve some props
xX__MAX__Xx> like who?
_Sirbob_> which
KenpoX> GEN
KenpoX> SCOOBY
KenpoX> KUAT
KenpoX> VAL
KenpoX> KEEN
xX__MAX__Xx> that's why u accuse keen of hacking in front of everybody huh?
KenpoX> they stuck wit me...
_Sirbob_> im sirbob
KenpoX> KEEN knows im playin
(Exit)> Bartwalker
_Sirbob_> i suck
xX__MAX__Xx> other ppl here dont
KenpoX> ****... the whole freakin 17 ppl believe me?
KenpoX> that KEEN is a hack?.
_Sirbob_> agajnst cheats i suck
KenpoX> lol
xX__MAX__Xx> 22
The_Julio> some people dont care
xX__MAX__Xx> anyway
_Sirbob_> about ???
KenpoX> im pissed man...
KenpoX> real piss
KenpoX> ed
xX__MAX__Xx> u should calm down and act liek yourself again
KenpoX> ya..
KenpoX> myself?
_Sirbob_> hehe
xX__MAX__Xx> and stop dogging me
KenpoX> dogging?
_Sirbob_> zone.......lol
xX__MAX__Xx> talking **** to me
KenpoX> Who LEFT FREAKIN WHO?
KenpoX> TELL ME
KenpoX> ?.
KenpoX> ?
KenpoX> ?.
KenpoX> .
KenpoX> .
KenpoX> ?
xX__MAX__Xx> who left who????
KenpoX> YA
KenpoX> !
KenpoX> WHO!
xX__MAX__Xx> i quit the damn clan like a month ago
_Sirbob_> hmm
xX__MAX__Xx> you want to know a secret?????
KenpoX> ok.. like 2 weeks ago
xX__MAX__Xx> IT'S JUST A GAME!!!!!!!!
The_Julio> lol
xX__MAX__Xx> it's not real life
KenpoX> adios max
_Sirbob_> no its real
KenpoX> c ya round
xX__MAX__Xx> later
(Exit)> KenpoX


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Old 08-20-2009, 06:43 PM   #57
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Keen, you're an ass

Well, since people keep posting here, I decided to finally register. I saw this thread a while ago, but I figured people would post on the newer forum those JKLE guys made, so I registered on there.

Check out this thread I made. It's got some good history stuff

http://www.jkdf2.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=2976

Here's an update of what's been going on: I kept in touch with many MOTS people for many years. But at this point it's just been too long, so I've lost touch with most.

I still talk to Phoenix_NBK because he's one of my best real life friends. He's married and has 2 kids.
I lost touch with YoungGun. Last time I talked to him was probably 4 years ago...he was happily married.
Suffo I stayed in touch with too, but then he just completely disappeared. I've tried to get in touch with him several times, but he never returns a single phone call. I guess he became too important with his music stuff to talk to old friends.
Nicodemus I still talk to like once or twice a year. He still lives like an hour from me, so I'm sure we'll hang out again one of these days. He still drinks Bud Ice, and so do I, lol.
Sticky_NBK's cell number is in my phone, so technically we're in touch, but we haven't spoken in a couple years. He's happily married too, last I heard.
Kuatnow and Law are still on the east coast. I very recently found them both and added them on Facebook.

I think that's about all. Hope I won't be the last to post here.
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Old 08-22-2009, 04:06 PM   #58
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By the way, I was bored and just wrote this thread to start some **** with the JK people on those forums. Figured I'd post it here too



Thread title: "I own you all..."


That is called an attention grabber. The real reason I made this thread is to state my argument on why MOTS was superior to JK. Which, I guess, validates the title, but whatever...

Far fewer people played MOTS than JK. This is JK's one true advantage. The more people, the more competition. This applies to all video games. But that is not the only factor deciding how much skill a game requires. Just look at Counter Strike. Probably the most popular FPS of all time, but designed for newbies. In a sense, that's why it was so popular. Literally anybody could play it. There's absolutely no doubt that JK/MOTS took more skill than CS, hence the far smaller communities. Anyway, with game population out of the way...

Let's talk about damage. JK's damage was not quite perfect. It took only 2 direct Conc rifle shots to get a kill. In MOTS, they changed it to 3. This created a bigger gap between the good and bad players. It took a bit more effort to get kills, and took away some luck. But mainly, it greatly helped with spawn rape. Being able to take more damage allowed players a much better chance to get back into the game after they died once. The game came down to more than just controlling the map, like JK.

MOTS also had much more powerful weapons than JK, to balance the "extra health". Seekers could completely own anybody in the open, and Carbonite was a guaranteed death if a good player got near you with it. So the Conc wasn't your only salvation. After dying, you could go for 3 different weapon types, and have a reasonable chance of changing the momentum of the game. Compare this with JK, where if you died once, you most likely lost the match. Because after that, you were just raped, not able to get the ONE gun in the game that was usable, because it was controlled by your opponent. This made things more interesting for the person getting the kill too.
Instead of just getting to spawn rape the opponent, after getting a kill, you had to actually keep playing.

But enough about about damage. Here is the main point of this post. JK had a grand total of 2 maps. If you played guns, you played on Oasis. If you played sabers, you played on BGJ. If you were a master of the game and played both, you were a master of two whole maps. This is very different from most FPS games, that have a plethora of playable maps. JK came down to pure repetition. There was very little thinking involved; no new material was learned. It was simple repetition of the same exact thing. Naturally, people who had done it 1000 times more than others were better.

MOTS, on the other hand, was much different. There were a lot more game types and a lot more maps to master. And here is the ultimate difference:
To be considered one of the best in JK, you had to be really good at one total game type, on one total map.
To be considered one of the best in MOTS, you had to be good at every single game type in the game - and we had a lot a more:
NF Guns
NF Sabers
FF Guns
FF Sabers
Soldiers only
Scouts only
Bounty Hunters only
Personalities

Plus more maps:
Spaceport
Cargo Ship
Gantry
Tat. Homestead
Throne Room
Ruins
Hutt Palace
Plus quite a few custom maps, and unlike JK, these weren't all just ports of Oasis or BGJ.

That is exactly twice the total game types of JK and several times the levels. And don't think these were just "possibilities". They were some of the most played game types and maps in the history of the game. And to be mentioned as one of the best, you had to be very good at every single one (or something like 95% of them). Some of the game types were very different from anything JK had to offer. Soldiers played more like a Quake-type FPS, BH came down to knowing something most didn't, and Scouts was something no other game has had in the history of gaming.

The greatest part of the game, however, was Personalities. All 4 were allowed: Jedi, Soldier, Bouty Hunter, and Scout. They were extremely well balanced. While certain classes dominated on one map, others dominated other maps. The different combinations of top players playing different personalities on different maps was something JK had no possible way of competing with. And again, all the people considered "one of the best of all time" were really good at everything the game had to offer.

Lastly, I think everybody that was at least semi-actively involved in both communities would admit that ours was better. It was smaller, but it was also a lot more tightly-knit. There were far fewer idiots, and far fewer newbies. We did have the same great **** talk; after all, it was the Zone. It just wasn't quite as much drama as JK.

Anyway, of course I'm not saying that JK didn't require a lot of skill. I'm saying that MOTS required the same skill, plus a lot more. While JK was completely focused, MOTS was well-rounded. It's like comparing a regular track athlete with a decathlete. You can have a guy that's really good at high jump, but sucks horribly at every single other track&field event. And then you have a decathlete, who dominates in 10 different events. Doesn't mean the great high jumper sucks. Just means the decathletes are much better athletes overall

And don't bring up Usain Bolt, because he doesn't seem to be human.

Discuss...
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Old 08-31-2009, 05:14 PM   #59
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wow... damn whats good vapz? i use to be GDS_DyCe.. in jedi knight i was dynamicz **** i havent played jk or mots since i was 16 or 17 (im 22 now)
i stoped playin mots prolly 2001? i dont even know i played jk then till 2004? i just decided to google **** the other day and i found this thread.. and the IRC chat i actually played a few games its wierd haha... i ****in miss the zone..
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Old 09-01-2009, 12:09 AM   #60
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oh and does dragonfire still look like meatloaf? hah does ne one still talk to him

http://www25.brinkster.com/clanijm/drag/trophies.htm

haha US_DyNaMiCz at the bottom witht he medal i found the other day shiit i think that was 2000 or something
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Old 09-04-2009, 06:01 PM   #61
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I'm still here, just thought i'd check back on this thread, wow loads more replys!!

Hey Dyce, I remember ya bro, hope things are good!!

Nice to see Punisher, Confed and others still remembering how good the Mots days were

Hahaha Maxanass!!


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Old 09-04-2009, 07:39 PM   #62
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Much lub to all

GDS_VeNoM checking it. Great to see many of you guys are still alive and kicking, I have fond memories of alot of you guys.

Just to update you on what happened to GDS cos VapZ messed up again as usual.

In the final days of MoTS in 1999, Newbies Incorporated was formed (originally a MoTS alias clan) and we went on to play RTCW, CoD and anything else that had a crosshair and was decent. VapZ was useless at these games though cos you couldn't freeze tag them with lag, so he never played, but some of our MoTS guys are still playing together today (me, cRo, Maddog etc).

Most of GDS are still in touch too, and I'm personally still in touch with practically all the guys from our MoTS clan. When they said GDS forever, they weren't kidding!

Anyhoo, booooooooooooring. Again, nice seeing you all. Like I said, have great memories of Max and Cowboy kicking the crap out of me on numerous occasions and then quitting the scene when I was obviously becoming too good. Hmm yes. I actually have MoTS installed now. Let's go!

Some screenshots for you too (I still have about 300 of them and some of you guys feature heavily).

1. With Vapz and Majik in the GDS Arena NF Sabers


2. The closest I ever got to beating MAX


3. GDS NF Sabers Tourney


4. Testing arena with Ognob


5. GDS Cargo Soldiers


6. Aliases are fun, ask NGK Pyreus


7. USE vs GDS to decide who was the better clan (this after I infiltrated their clan as USE_Kooler just so I could play the "unbeatable USE God Vegeta"). Point proved methinks.



8. *WAVES to Confed*


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Old 09-08-2009, 06:45 PM   #63
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:33 AM   #64
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Holy moly Kurgan!

I haven't been in these here parts for a long time.


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Old 09-10-2009, 02:13 PM   #65
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Holyyyy ****!

Whats up llamas.

I cant believe its been over 10 years. I still talk to a few people from the MotS, mostly YoungGun, and Dragonfire's mom.

I work as an artist now, for a video game company in LA, but illustration and gallery shows is my true passion. You can check out my art n stuff at

http://sirmikeofmitchell.com

I played Wow for a good bit, but I think I'm done with that part of my life, I spend most of my video game hours playing Call of Duty on 360 (add me: sirmitcheii)

and for all the gay dudes out there, heres a picture of my wife, my new pal, and me http://sirmikeofmitchell.com/sirmitchell/lrm.JPG

If you guys ever want to catch up, hit me up on aim at lazymitchell or on gtalk at mikepmitchell

or just email me. Mike@sirmikeofmitchell.com

****, what a blast from the past this thread is....
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Old 09-10-2009, 02:21 PM   #66
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omfg, i googled sticky_NBK and I found gold

http://www25.brinkster.com/clanijm/drag/lamers.htm

"StiCKy_NBK: This guy never actually played mots, he just sorta sat in the room and made fun of everyone for being no good. I couldn't understand his problem. Nowadays the tide has turned, everyone found out that his job in life is to refill those machines that have bags of ice at your local walmart and ****. Haha we started making fun of him with that in the mots room and I snagged the z name SLUSHY_MAN just to add some more topping to the cake"
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Old 09-10-2009, 06:24 PM   #67
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LOL what up, GDS bitches!

And Mike, you look like a grown man...wtf. Last time I remember, you looked like a kid. Damn growing up
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Old 09-10-2009, 09:06 PM   #68
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what up faggits? My Hetero internet life partner sticky directed me to this lil ditty. Just wanted to let you all know..YES NBK still owns you
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Old 09-10-2009, 10:31 PM   #69
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As suffo would say, BLAM!

http://members.cox.net/maxpage/MOTS_...y/motshist.htm
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Old 09-13-2009, 05:35 PM   #70
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It's crazy how many people have found this thread!

The only thing that is now missing is a post from Nico and Rage.... lol.

I'm guessing most of you are on Facebook, if you can be bothered look me up. Wesley Hill
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Old 09-13-2009, 05:39 PM   #71
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I dont know anyone who keeps in touch with Nico anymore, maybe Suffo?

I could always drive to Riverside and talk to the first white person I see, good chance its him.
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Old 09-15-2009, 03:58 PM   #72
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Old 09-15-2009, 04:10 PM   #73
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I figured since everyone has a Facebook, why not make a group so we can all keep in better touch then just this ****ty forum

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=129632768308
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Old 09-17-2009, 10:36 PM   #74
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MOTS Re-release spurred me to look up some stuff. Suprised as **** that people are still talking about this.

NBK still representing, apparently!
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:28 PM   #75
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You can get it on Steam now too, its $2.99

do you need JK to run it? I dont even remember.
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Old 09-22-2009, 02:48 AM   #76
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I got the whole pack but i think you can get MOTS alone without JK.

Haven't touched it in 3-4 years. Even Jedi Acadamy looks way worse then i remember. Multiplayer is also shockingly bad.
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Old 09-22-2009, 03:39 PM   #77
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wow talk about cool

Heya boys, Best MOTS level designer here saying hello!

Man do i miss the good o'l days of cargo 2 and Bar's Bar.

Sirbob wow surprised anyone remembers me lol

I hope all is well with everyone.

I have never stopped using GQBabydrgon ever since i played this game.
My facebook is geoff dixon

Laters all and all the best.
PS if anyone has my levels still i'd love to try um again lol. gqbabydragon@hotmail.com
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Old 10-03-2009, 04:21 PM   #78
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Cargo Soldiers Baby!

Wow, never thought I would see all those names again!

I dl/ed mots today for good ol' memorabilia, since my original CD is knackered, and can now only be used as an attractive coffee coaster.

I've noticed some servers randomly popping up that run Mots, but they don't seem to last. There is an irc channel irc.gamesurge.net #jk.

After Mots died a death, I moved to CS and TFC, then COD, CS:S and COD2.
I've come full cycle and realised that Mots was actually the best for the community and gameplay.

Only one thing left to do - someone set up a dedicated server with 24/7 Cargo Soldiers! No lag shield, no excuses!
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:30 AM   #79
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was looking to see how to get this thing running after downloading it from steam.

found a whole bunch of names i never wanted to see again.

nerds and jerks, add one more name to the list. im checking in.
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:00 AM   #80
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Whazzzzzup Dawgs!

Wow. I just had to post a SUP! to you old dogs. I was in JOTS as either ScoobyDee or more known as BigDee. (If you could see me now..im more BiggerDee after 10yrs of my wifes cooking.)
We also did the MD (Maximum Death) thing back then as well. COWBOY!! Hey man.... long time no see....man miss the good old days playing Soliders in Cargo Ship....HAHHA. Hey to Keen as well....thanks for those old Starcraft Broodwars CDs you sent me years ago. Hey MAX....if your ever see this... UANASS!!! Of course there cant be mentioning Jots without saying Hi to CapHuge...old fart.

People I remember the most:
Bartender
NuggaNooch
Wagner
Zappo
Doom
Kuatnom
Generator
Sirbob... HEY BOB..you and your Goddamn Carbonite!!!! LOL I used to call you Carbob!
Sticky
Younggun
Idmir
JediJoe
Nicodemus

I play World of warcraft nowadays for gaming... Deathwing Server... Horde named Shreddy.

Peace Out!
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