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Old 01-08-2010, 10:50 PM   #681
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The Consumer Electronics Showsw(CES) has been raging away in Vegas for the last week or so. 2010 is definitely shaping up to be the year of tablets, e-readers and 3D displays - as these seemed to be the most prevalent new devices on display.

There was some massive geek excitement, reaching levels of sexual arousal over the elusive Microsoft Courier. More of a productivity device than the media centric apple tablet (iSlate?) is likely to be - unfortunately, this excitement was stirred into a frenzy by irresponsible tech sites like engadget and that a$$rag the New York Times - who went as far as to say a 'an insider' told them the courier would be announced at MS presentation at CES.

As there hasn't even been a prototype surface on the net, the sane among us new it was far fetched - and of course the courier hasnt been announced. It will likely become more prominent after Apple announce their tablet, which will probably occur on Jan 27 amidst a deluge of fanjaculation.

If youre saying, "Astro, WTF is the courier" > watch this. Im quite interested in it meself - if it can actually do what this CG rendered presentation shows. I like how MS have stuck to their 'ink' roots and enabled proper handwriting support with pen input - which is vital to make these things true productivity devices as opposed to merely large media players and mobile internet devices(MIDs).

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*As Q said, we will get some Fermi benchies in Jan, no actual Fermi til March. No biggie IMO. If they're delaying because they want to put out a better product, then what the heck. Its not like the 2xx series is floundering significantly, performance or sales wise

*AMD seem to be celebrating the fact that they've shipped 2 million DX11 GPUs. Some quick research will reveal that as I type this... there are only 3 directx 11 games available. Woot AMD That's like posting a word record time in the 100m sprint, but doing it alone at 3am in the morning, at the running track near your grandma's house. It doesnt really count does it ??

*Windows mobile 7 was unoffically announced - an MS honcho saying it will be revealed at the Mobile World Conference(MWC) in a couple of months time. MS really need to pull off something special if they want to have a chance at competing with Symbian(iphone OS) or android.

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Old 01-09-2010, 12:46 AM   #682
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I don't know why people would want to read books on LCD screens...they hurt your eyes really bad after a while (at least they do to me) b/c they're so bright. I think the Kindle is too expensive but I also think their screen design where it's not hard on the eyes and reads more like a normal book. I just don't get what the obsession is in the tech companies about electronic books. They are convenient in the sense that they can hold hundreds of books...but normally people only read one book at a time anyway.

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Old 01-09-2010, 03:35 AM   #683
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It's personal preference of course. I'm sure there are many that read more than one book at a time, not to mention newspapers, textbooks, magazines etc which are now available in e-format. Im reading 1 book at the moment, and listening to two(yay=audiobooks). 3 fiction titles are my capacity, and they need to be different genres or I'll get confused

Ive been using my tablet as a reader for over a year. I dont mind the LCD brightness at all, but my tablet isnt really that portable, or easy on the battery. My ideal reader hasnt come along yet - it needs to be 7" or so e-ink screen, super thin and be able to do colour and greyscale - no such device exists yet. I really need the colour for comics. They look great on my tablet but not ultraportable

As for the the courier - whilst I dont think it has e-ink - it would likely be used as an e-reader. Im moreso interested in it as a productivity device - which is what MS seems to be pushing it as anyway

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Do you think that it really is the wave of the future or just a fad (tablets and e-readers)?



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Old 01-09-2010, 12:38 PM   #685
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Do you think that it really is the wave of the future or just a fad (tablets and e-readers)?
Wait til after Jan 27 when tablet devices will truly enter the public consciousnness.

Kindle sales speak for themselves as far as e-publications are concerned. Make them colour, cheaper and accessible through plans(like cellphones) and they'll be all over the place. For students, the ability to take notes is a big thing. Kindle supports this, but not fantastically. Upcoming devices that master this will make them increasingly practical in the classroom as well. As opposed to LCD, e-ink devices can go for days without needing a recharge.

On an interesting note, whilst MS Courier device hasnt surfaced yet, a quirky yet interesting interim solution could be something like the Entourage edge - which is half ebook reader, half LCD MID running android. Would be great for that books/comics/RSS on the go combo. Still, one colour e-ink screen device would be preferable IMO

Also, I dont know why it has a 2004 size bezel..that totally ruins it from a 'futuristic aesthetic' point of view

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Old 01-27-2010, 08:37 PM   #686
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ah, finally. After all the fanboy specjaculation of the last two years or so, Steve Jobs has donned his jeans and skinny to present the iPad. Its a tablet device with a screen just under 10" and runs the iphone OS. Many have called it an oversized iphone/ipod touch, and with good reason.

It definitely is sleek, but it's inescapable that there are some huge shortcomings that will make this appeal to less people. Bright side of news summed this up very well in their article here, of which here is the skinny of what is noticeably missing:

*No GPS, HDSPA/HSPA [3.5G] >> AT&T 3G support will be added later for an extra $130
*No camera,
*No multi tasking?!
*NO FLASH support >> this is crazy IMO. This is the age of flash, Youtube, pron, flash games... all out the window on this device. It will need some third party workaround of course, but their decision to slice it out comes out of a pi$$ing context with adobe, rather than any huge security concern, or considering their users for that matter.

That being said, the basic model is $499 so is a decent price for a PMP/MID with a nice largish screen....but revolutionary....probably not.

engadget has some mega coverage if you want to know everything there is to know, or read depressed apple fanboy comments.

As far as a functional device you can use at school and work, the MS Courier device is looking increasingly attractive. Time will tell if MS can actually deliver what you see in that render vid a couple of posts back, and how much the damn thing will cost.

Also, it's obvious no-one at Apple watches MadTv they should have stuck to the iSlate perhaps
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Old 02-06-2010, 08:01 AM   #687
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Just a heads up, MS have updated their DirectX SDK/runtimes - applies whether you have directx 9(xp) or 10/11(vista/w7)

DirectX Feb 2010 Redist [104Mb]

The recent (feb 2010) Catalyst 10.1 Drivers were causing some issues in the 5800 series cards in the form of grey screen/lines corrupting the image. If this has happenned to you since going to 10.1.... AMD have released the hotfix HERE.

Nvidia have revealed (via their facebook page apparently) that their first Fermi products will be named the GTX 480 and 470....

If you happen to be running nvidias newest 196.21 WHQL drivers, and have an EVGA dual GPU card or multi card SLI setup > EVGA's 196.21 SLI Enhancement update is a handy download if you want to add multi GPU support for Alien v Predator and further tweaks the Mass Effect 2 Multi GPU performance settings. >> remember -EVGA cards only

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Old 02-10-2010, 05:37 PM   #688
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AMD may be poised to enter a resurgence as they start to tape out their groundbreaking Llano(Fusion) CPU+GPUs.

Bright side of news have unveiled some more details about them HERE

Definitely will be interesting - I don't think they'll be 'crysis killers' by any stretch of the imagination, but hopefully great for everyday stuff and htpcs.. also allowing for smaller form factors

Also, everyone who has been lamenting(or laughing at) the slow and painful death of windows mobile may be interested to know that MS is set to announce "windows mobile 7" soon at the Mobile World Congress(MWC) in Spain. Said to be taking WM more in the direction of a Zune interface, one thing that is interested many is the possibility of a robust iTunes alternative that will accompany it.

More info once the MWC kicks off

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Old 02-15-2010, 10:21 AM   #689
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It's looking like the Empire has struck back...

Over at the mobile world congress in Barcelona, MS has just unveiled what is officially called "Windows Phone Series 7" Ditching all that was WinMo, it seems MS has written the entire OS from the ground up. There are some definite parallels with the Zune HD interface, obviously.

Looks like Apple and Android have a new competitor. Looking at the buzz created among smartphone fans, alot of people are already eager to get their hands on one when they are released by the end of the year.



I myself am happy to stick to my android gizmo until I see one in action Im liking that clean interface though. One of the MS designers described it as 'chromeless' ie. no shaded icons and extra image layers. Nice. Quite reminiscent of the MCPL(media center presentation layer) actually

There are quite a few additions which were lacking in WinMo.. the Zune and Xbox live integration is something which has a lot of folks excited. I'm wondering what MS are thinking about in terms of making it a competetive gaming device ?? Time will tell.

More coverage on the Series 7 phone HERE

In other news, the Notion Ink Adam is looking like the uber tablet everyone wished the iPad was going to be. I love how it can switch between black and white and colour, and can last from 16 hours (Colour screen) to 160 hours(black and white, backlight off). Its a Pixel QI screen, not LCD so not as hard on the eyes. Inbuilt 3Gwill make it the ultimate MID, reader, multimedia device. All on android and powered by nvidia Tegra 2, managing 1080p video playback apparently...

Want! Due July-ish we are told..



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that Windows phone looks nice. it'll be an interesting day in about 7 months when my phone contract runs out. i'm definitely looking to get something like that or an equivalent. this smartphone market is getting crazy. lots of options.

and, quick question: i'm looking to build a new system around March. so correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't the Nvidia GT300 cards and the hexacore Intel CPU's supposed to be on the market by then?? or have i been misinformed??


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that Windows phone looks nice. it'll be an interesting day in about 7 months when my phone contract runs out. I'm definitely looking to get something like that or an equivalent. this smartphone market is getting crazy. lots of options.
MSDN has released a 22 minute detailed walkthrough of the OS on an actual device. Its probably the closest you'll get to one before they come out at the end of the year

My only curiosity during all this frenzy is what the business market is thinking. All the old winmo apps apparently wont work, no stylus input and no multitasking. Im sure MS has thought of it, and will be bringing out a more business-centric model? who knows

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They're called GT400 nowadays (as reported previously)! I'm not sure about a March release date for the Intels, but I know its not far away - though neither are the AMD 6-core efforts. Q may be able to tell us more, he's our resident CPU guru

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Gulftown (32nm hexacore) is indeed scheduled to be released on March 16, but it will be an XE and will cost ~$1000.00. The non-XE version isn't coming until Q3.


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whoa... $1k for a CPU - you'd surely only go near it if you had some specialist application in mind and/or were exceedingly riche I havent found my core i7 to be tardy as yet so will let it be for now.

In other news...... my 1600p monitor was pronounced DEAD today. Samsung has no replacement parts for that model (the actual panel needed replacing). It was still under warranty so they have sent to main office to decide what to do. I'll either get a refund or agree on a similarly priced product. eg. a 40" at 1080p. Other than that, Dell still make 1600p panels - the 3008WFP - which has 3 year warranty as standard as well. Unlike the samsung it also sports 1080p HDMI support which fits nicely with my future ps3 plans.

*sigh* But until that's sorted Ive been playing ME2 on a 15" monitor I salvaged from a bin...lolz \o/

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Old 02-16-2010, 05:29 PM   #694
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I remember trying to talk ChAiNz out of buying a QX9650 a couple of years ago. A few months later the Q9650 came out sporting the same clockspeed at half the price, just like I told him it would.

Wait, Samsung no longer makes a 30" 1600p panel? Srsly? The Dell would be a worthy replacement. Just make sure it's the HC model.

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Wait, Samsung no longer makes a 30" 1600p panel? Srsly? The Dell would be a worthy replacement. Just make sure it's the HC model.

Sorry about your luck. That sucks.
Yeah, the timing sucked most, a couple of days before I picked up ME2 and now a couple of weeks away from ACreed2

Ive dug around and found the 305T+ is the last 1600p 30 incher released. I always knew Dell had their model and Apple had the 'cinema' screen - Back when I got mine I read they all had the same panel inside.

Ah well, Im happy to wait for the Dell. HDMI integration is a big plus. Now. hurry up with the freakin' refund Sammy.

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As for smartphones and a Windows version--once the exclusive contract is up with AT&T in the US, all bets are off. I think the iPhone will dominate the market for a very long time.


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As for smartphones and a Windows version--once the exclusive contract is up with AT&T in the US, all bets are off. I think the iPhone will dominate the market for a very long time.
Thats a gutsy call Jae! I think it's way too early to be able to discern, barring use of a ouija board I'm a reasonably satisfied android user, but I definitely love the WPS7 interface.

The contract stuff doesn't stop some folks, unlocked phones are pretty easy to come by.

The reaction to merely the announcement of these have been very positive. One thing many people are pining for is an itunes alternative that isnt as mind numbingly bloated. They're also targeting xbox owners in a big way, as that seems to be what they will be using as their gaming portal, though this will extend to non xbox owners too of course.



MS seems to be riding a wave or resurgence since Windows 7, and WPSeries 7 seems to be building on that. One thing that MS and android/Google share is an existing infrastructure to provide cloud(web based) backup ie. as opposed to relying on local device sync with specific PCs. You will be able to get access to all your outlook/windows live emails and contacts, calendar etc. You can currently do this in an iphone though its not as streamlined as the customised gmail interface in android phones for example.

Of course, windows phones will also have flash Adobe commented that it hasn't been completed yet but they are working on it in time for end of year release.

It will be interesting to see how it all pans out. It seems like they're going for iphone interface's usability with the pluses of androids cloud integration functionality.. which if pulled off right will sell bucket-loads.

It seems the business community is currently holding its breath to see if MS hasnt forgotten their extensive presence in that area. If WPS7 can make that transition too, they will be dominating in an area iphone and android haven't made a scratch in. (WinMo, Blackberry are the domain of business devices/apps)

anyway, whichever device we have leanings towards, I'm sure we can all agree...competition is good!

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Thats a gutsy call Jae! I think it's way too early to be able to discern, barring use of a ouija board I'm a reasonably satisfied android user, but I definitely love the WPS7 interface.
iPhones are extraordinarily popular, and there are so many apps I think people will want to stick with that--kind of like people wanting to stick with Windows back in the 90's because there were a lot more programs for it. Three of the gals at my office have iPhones, not one of them worries about Apple bloatware. However, they couldn't tell you what bloatware meant in the first place--they'd probably say 'is that the feeling you get at a certain time of the month when you retain too much water?' with a confused look on their faces, before checking facebook again.

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anyway, whichever device we have leanings towards, I'm sure we can all agree...competition is good!
I agree completely on that--it'll drive the price of all these devices down, and hopefully will improve the connection speeds on all of them as they try to compete with speed as well as number of apps/ease of use/'cool factor'/etc. My cell carrier has already improved the speed of its network just in the last 18 months or so, and my LG Tritan phone is quite a bit faster than the Windows network that I had been using before with my older smartphone. In terms of number of apps/ease of use/'cool factor', everyone has a ways to go to catch up to Apple. The Zune is a distant 2nd to the iPod, and I suspect since the iPhone has held on to a near-monopoly for so long that it will be extremely difficult for competitors even to come close to meeting the same market share as Apple, much less surpassing it.


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Three of the gals at my office have iPhones, not one of them worries about Apple bloatware. However, they couldn't tell you what bloatware meant in the first place--they'd probably say 'is that the feeling you get at a certain time of the month when you retain too much water?' with a confused look on their faces, before checking facebook again.
LMAO....I'm glad I dont work where you do Jae

The last person I encountered with an iphone was our network admin at work. He called it a piece of crap and insisted his wife made him get one because she had one and there was a deal of some sort... He said he wanted a Blackberry, since he actually needs to do productivity related things on it.

A quick look in your installed proggie list will show you what I mean about itunes... mind you windows live suite is just as annoying now

I thought the era of cloud computing would remove all this local junk on our pcs and all we'd need is a browser...obviously not

It's because of that the portable installs are becoming increasing popular. I run FF, Chromium and Office 2007 as portable install nowdays. As I jump between W7 and Vista it makes it pretty handy rather than requiring duplicate installations.

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fanboys/girls of team green will be pleased to hear that nvidia have just tweeted to the world that they will be freakin finally launching the GTX 480 and 470 on March 26 (most likely at the Penny Arcade Expo)

After all the drama of the foundry floundering lets just hope the wait has been worth anything more than an anticlimax. Will it topple >60fps in CRYEngine1 at >1080p, or even 1600p?

Hence a notification to ATI/AMD 59xx owners : You probably have 1 month of internet e-penis braggage left. Use it wisely

Hopefully nvidia doesn't get too carried away with their pricing

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Listings are starting to appear at around the interwebs. 512 stream processors and 1-2GB DDR5... I wonder how hot these things will get ??

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Well, that price listing looks legit, as that is typical nVidia pricing, alright. Greedy bastards.

That thing better be the second coming of silicon in order to justify the ridiculous asking price after such a long wait.


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Greedy bastards.
Cmon Q, how else is he going to pay off this behemoth..........

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Just a FYI, the 196.75 WHQL have been retracted from nvidia site following major issues with fan speeds. A horde of users worldwide are reporting burnt out cards. I'm not sure what the implication is for shuttle fans as (obviously) there is no listing for exact hardware combinations that cause this.

A roll back to previous 196.21 WHQL is recommended. Of course, if you've had no problems, then it's up to you

My Shuttle SX58H7 and EVGA 295 CO-op seemed unaffacted, but being a mildly paranoid type(seeing all this kit cost me a bit, I have rolled back ) Drivers have since been taken down nvidia's site and places like Guru3D etc

more info from nvidia >>

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index5.aspx?lang=en-us

Alot of OEMs would be fuming if they ended up with thousands of RMA requests because of this stuff up by nvidia... I cant believe it didn't get squashed during beta phase.

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Still running the 195.62 drivers so no problem for me. I planned on going to 196.21 drivers once I'm done playing Dragon Age: Origins and move to ME2. Never let it be said that I was one on the bleeding edge when it came to drivers.

BrightSideofNews is reporting that the GTX 480 will have 480 cores instead of 512 cores. Guess that means the yields out of TSMC still aren't making the grade. *sigh*

Summary of GTX 480 price and specs BSN provides are
480 cores
384-bit interface
1.54 GB GDDR5
USD$449-499

Summary of GTX 470 price and specs
448 cores
320-bit interface
1.28 GB GDDR5
USD$299-349

No mention of clock and memory speeds though if word on the web can be believed the core clock is in low 600 MHz range. Guess we'll find out for sure in a couple of weeks. ATM I'm thinking I may just wait for the next die shrink before I buy a DX11 card.


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Im wondering if the 480 SPs is a base spec - and whether companies like XFX, BFG, EVGA will roll out higher SP editions in future, as happened with the GTX 260.

Various places have also reported that retailers have pushed the Fermi release date back slightly to April 6th.

The Intel Hexacore, 12 threaded, 32nm Corei7 980X has recently hit stores. Described by reviewers around the word as 'obscenely fast', at $999USD or thereabouts - it is also obscenely priced

In other more amusing news, Apple/Jobs seems to be getting increasingly irate/nuts/?distracted.... Apart from his constant swipes at Adobe over Flash, a recent multi patent infringement lawsuit has been filed against phone makers HTC, which is chiefly viewed as a swipe at Google/Android.

The ongoing feud between Jobs and Google CEO Eric Schmidt has been outed in recent press... with sources saying "Steve Jobs just simply hates Eric Schmidt"

lolz.

With the underwhelming response to the iPad, Android making up great ground in the mobile market since the release of 2.0, and a huge slice of the market already drooling over Windows Phone 7, 2010 isn't shaping up to be a super year for Apple. Jobs lawsuit lust isn't helping their PR much.

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Looks like nvidia have responded to the 196.75 driver mess, today releasing 197.13 - complete with fanspeed fixes and profile updates for games like ME2, ACreed 2 and Napoleon Total War.

Best probably wait a few days to ensure they havent blown up anyone else's pcs first

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Are you rich, a corporation, a show-off, or uber Adobe CS4 user:

Then you might want to check out EVGA's SR-2 mainboard, capable of supporting 2x Hexacore Xeons - giving you access to a total of 24 threads... phaw ! Who needs Moore's Law when you can just double up with a wad of cash. A corei7 980x ready version isnt out yet, just in case you think you want one.

Also caters for 4 way SLI/Crossfire and 48GBDDR3.... released at around $600USD - even before you think about GPUs/RAM/HDD, your looking at $2600USD to get this thing out of the box.

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More info from EVGA directly. For those curious, SR2 stands for Super Record 2 - though the gamers among us love the Normandy Reference of course, whether intended or not.

* * *

In other news, those curious about Windows Phone 7 may want to check out engadgets detailed coverage from the MIX10 conference, as well as their blurrycam video of a WPS7 phone gaming - replete with 3D. Definitely looks on par with the iPhone/Ipod touch in that respect... with nvidia Tegra under the hood, that's not really a surprise.

What was a surprise was MS announcement that WP7 will NOT be sporting direct cut and paste, which has ired a few folks out there - especially since many WinMo fans were so eager to mock the iPhone for the lack of this (until version 3). MS has said it will have context specific based functions that will allow you to achieve pasting but not a universal clipboard as was featured in WinMo since it's most earliest iterations. Hmm....

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VR zone has leaked the eagerly nerd-ticipated clocks on the Fermi cards. So to add to what Char has listed above:

GTX 480:
*$499USD
*480 shader processors
*384-bit interface to 1.5GB of onboard GDDR5 RAM,
*700MHz core clock
*1,401MHz shader clock
*1,848MHz memory clock
*295W TDP

GTX 470
*$349
*446 SPs, slower clocks, and a 320-bit memory interface
*607/1215/1674MHz core/shader/mem,
*1280MB GDDR5
*225W

Scarily, the VR-Zone leakster also states that there are plans for a dual fermi card... one can only imagine the TDP on a GTX 490(480X2). phaw.. you may need to invest in one of these to keep it running

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ellows pplz :P Just new here XD I know its off topic, buttah does anyone here uses BFX? got some difficulties with it :P a friend want to kill me in BF II but we cant go online xP so i cant blow his head of... to bad D=

And nice stuff xD only lil expensive o.o those GTX things o.O i think my pc will blow itself up when i buy some of that stuff XD Im sure it cant hold it :P
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assuming that Nvidia's own benchmarks aren't exaggerated, you're only going to see about a 10-20% improvement in performance with the GTX 480 over a Radeon 5870, and the card looks to be even more power hungry to boot. what's even more troublesome is that you can get a Sapphire Vapor-X edition 5870 for ~$20 USD less than the GTX 480. that one is overclocked and gets a nice little boost that further cuts into Fermi's lead.

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Do you mean he 5970 (5870X2)? The 5870 can be had for ~$380 USD. The 5970 is $500ish, I think. It's confusing, I know.


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Nvidia's own benchmarks aren't exaggerated
They're not comprehensive enough to make any definitive statement about the overall performance of the cards vs its AMD counterparts.

Plus you don't need benchies to know that the top tier nvidia cards are overpriced!!

I myself cant see me ditching the GTX 295 co-op either, but am still eager to see some proper benchies, power and heat, and folding numbers

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Do you mean he 5970 (5870X2)? The 5870 can be had for ~$380 USD. The 5970 is $500ish, I think. It's confusing, I know.
Oops. Apparently the 5970 is ~$600ish, which makes more sense, given that it's the rough equivalent of 2 5870s.

Recently, e-tailers have been selling the 5870 for ~$380 like I said, though.


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Oops. Apparently the 5970 is ~$600ish, which makes more sense, given that it's the rough equivalent of 2 5870s.

Recently, e-tailers have been selling the 5870 for ~$380 like I said, though.
yeah, i can get a "stock" 5870 for about under $400, but i was referring to Sapphire's Vapor-X which commands a ~$70-80 premium due to the aftermarket cooler (which does an excellent cooling job) and a somewhat mild factory overclock which accounts for the extra performance.

no biggie, though.


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The GTX 480/470 Reviews are starting to come filter out - Here's a couple:

*Guru3D
*Bright side of news (includes folding and SLI numbers)

Longstoryshort:
*Overall, the 'fastest' single GPU card (but not staggeringly so compared to the 5870)
*Up to 1900x1200, up to 10% improvement on various games(tested with beta drivers) compared to the 5870(with new 10.3 drivers)
*1600p: taper out to be the same
*5870 uses less power
*Neither can best Crytek 2.0 above HD, STILL
*folding: 13,000 PPD - ie, about a 60% improvement on the GTX 280.
*Expensive: yes

Interesting card, but I wont be ditching my GTX 295 anytime soon - if nvidia partners such as XFX and EVGA release a GTX 490(2x480) on a single PCB... it would be interesting.

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So recent predictions for Fermi/GF100 were fairly close to the mark. A good performer but sucks a lot of power, is hot and noisy. Still thinking I'll wait for some time for a die shrink or other power consumption improvements before I pull the trigger on a new DX11 card.

Since I run folding@home power consumption has become one of my top concerns when making a choice for a new graphics card. I waited for the 9800 GTX+ to come out in August 2008(?) since it was a die shrink of 9800 GTX to 55 nm. Unfortunately the 9800 GTX+ still required two 6-pin connectors, same as the 9800 GTX, and featured only slightly lower power consumption. This past December I purchased an MSI GTS 250, essentially an improved design of the 9800 GTX+ with 2x the RAM, and it only featured one 6-pin power connector. My takeaway from this experience? I need to wait for a GPU generation to mature so that I can get the benefit of all those little refinements and improvements the manufacturing companies make as they go.

In other Fermi news, word on the web is that the GTS 4xx line of cards will be making their debut in June or July, featuring 192-256 CUDA cores on 192-256 bit bus.


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Yep, the die shrink is the way to go. The First 295s were also furnaces. Before I give my 295 up, I'll see if EVGA can come up with a single PCB 2xGTX 480 that runs cooler and greener

With major silicon foundries starting to brag about their yields again, hopefully it wont be too long

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It was on the cards, but the chick iPhone is starting to lose some major ground to android, especially since the release of the motorola DROID series, replete with Android 2.0

Read more about the data here and here - which is US centric of course.



Of course we know how Steve Jobs chose to react to this - launching a super mega multi lawsuit against HTC earlier this year

Go Lil Green Robot !

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Of course we know how Steve Jobs chose to react to this - launching a super mega multi lawsuit against HTC earlier this year
Google acquires AdMob for $750 million

I at your source. hehehe (j/k)

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Being an iPhone owner/user all I can say is.. about damn time there's some good competition. Apple needs a swift kick in the arse to get it's devs in gear. It can only benefit both Android and iPhone users in all honesty. My friend at work has an Android and it's a pretty sweet phone. I get to look at it a lot since he's always wanting to use mine (I keeeeed!)

Just cross your fingers iPhone doesn't break the AT&T stonewall.
Should Apple float to Verizon.. there will be a Fanboi War that the world has never seen.

I think I'll quit the internet the day that happens. Too much nerd-rage, bile and ePenis swagging about whose smartphone can download the most porn the fastest.

Oh yeah, there's an app for that!


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I think I'll quit the internet the day that happens. Too much nerd-rage, bile and ePenis swagging about whose smartphone can download the most porn the fastest.

Oh yeah, there's an app for that!
I am disappointed. I expected that app to be one attempting to break the speed record for nonstop smartphone porn downloading, not a ruler.

And to stay on topic: Cisco claims to have created a router that can deliver a staggering 322 terabits/second.

Now, before people get too excited about this, keep in mind that the speed hasn't been tested outside of Cisco to my knowledge, and that in order for it to be completely effective, it would need to be introduced in a huge number of places in the communications infrastructure, which would take time and money, both of which corporations don't enjoy spending unnecessarily.



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