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Old 04-27-2008, 09:52 AM   #1
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About Handmaiden's influencing

My DS character has left Telos academy and just got Handmaiden on board. I've been following Achilles's influnce guide and got 58 influence by sticking with guide's choices. Next it instructs to take sparring match with Handmaiden for 66 influence, but problem is that I get 74 instead of 66 and so I can't unlock that: "I wanted to ask you about Atris"-conversation because she starting to like my character and she doesn't want to talk about Atris.
Have I done something wrong? Is that that Atris conversation critical to turning her jedi? Perhaps Achilles can enlighten me about this matter?
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Old 04-27-2008, 09:55 AM   #2
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Hmm, perhaps you could KSE you way into changing your influence with her.


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Old 04-27-2008, 10:08 AM   #3
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I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter. Her becoming a Jedi scene starts immediately after you finish the third match. There are no dialogue options required--just influence. I also thought that you could talk to her about Atris at any time, but I might be wrong on that one.


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Old 04-27-2008, 10:56 AM   #4
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Hmm... strange, I influenced Handmaiden with DS choices and my influence over her is 82, but still she doesn't want to talk about Atris.
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:01 AM   #5
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Looking through KT...seems like you should be able to talk to her at any time if you have enough influence. And 82 should be more than enough, methinks.


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Old 04-27-2008, 11:14 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Kilppari
My DS character has left Telos academy and just got Handmaiden on board. I've been following Achilles's influnce guide and got 58 influence by sticking with guide's choices.
Have you tried saying, "I will take whatever help I can get" right from the get go? It's been a while since I have check the numbers with that part, but I think you get a huge influence boost from it.


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Next it instructs to take sparring match with Handmaiden for 66 influence, but problem is that I get 74 instead of 66 and so I can't unlock that:
If I remember right, Achilles and I had a discussion about this a couple of years ago or so and you do get more influence than his guide said. I don't see how having your influence higher than his guide said should be a problem since the higher your influence, the more likely dialogue options will open up.


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"I wanted to ask you about Atris"-conversation because she starting to like my character and she doesn't want to talk about Atris.
Have I done something wrong? Is that that Atris conversation critical to turning her jedi? Perhaps Achilles can enlighten me about this matter?
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Hmm... strange, I influenced Handmaiden with DS choices and my influence over her is 82, but still she doesn't want to talk about Atris.
Well, if you're at 82; maybe you need to be at 90 instead. Again, I would have to look at the numbers doing that part of the game again since it's been a while since I saw what numbers you need to be to unlock certain conversations.

If you want to see how to make the Handmaiden a Dark Jedi, I have a video on YouTube showing what you need to do to make that happen when training with her. Maybe that would help.

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Old 04-27-2008, 11:37 AM   #7
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Hey thanks for advice Shem!
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Old 04-27-2008, 02:41 PM   #8
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My DS character has left Telos academy and just got Handmaiden on board. I've been following Achilles's influnce guide and got 58 influence by sticking with guide's choices. Next it instructs to take sparring match with Handmaiden for 66 influence, but problem is that I get 74 instead of 66 and so I can't unlock that: "I wanted to ask you about Atris"-conversation because she starting to like my character and she doesn't want to talk about Atris.
Hmmm, that's interesting (the extra bump). Yes, as you seem to recall, once you get a certain amount of influence with her, the Atris branch becomes unavailable (she's so jealous!).

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Have I done something wrong? Is that that Atris conversation critical to turning her jedi? Perhaps Achilles can enlighten me about this matter?
No, the conversation is not critical. All you need is the influence and the backstory on her mom.
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Old 04-27-2008, 03:09 PM   #9
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You have to ask that particular question very early (as in first thing) because if your influence gets too high she won't answer it.


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Old 04-29-2008, 09:17 PM   #10
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I thought that you had to progress in the game in order to unlock certain dialogue? Not just by interacting with the NPCs.... Maybe I am completely wrong, but I always tried at the begging but nothing really worked unless I progressed through certain portions of the game.


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Old 04-29-2008, 11:46 PM   #11
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I thought that you had to progress in the game in order to unlock certain dialogue? Not just by interacting with the NPCs.... Maybe I am completely wrong, but I always tried at the begging but nothing really worked unless I progressed through certain portions of the game.
Some players you can actually get enough influence in the first conversation, like Mira. There's an awesome influence guide at the link below:
http://www.starwarsknights.com/influence.php
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:54 AM   #12
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Some players you can actually get enough influence in the first conversation, like Mira.
I don't believe that's accurate. IIRC there is a level cap on the third sparring match, which is required for making HM a jedi.

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There's an awesome influence guide at the link below:
http://www.starwarsknights.com/influence.php
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Old 05-01-2008, 08:35 AM   #13
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Try just conversing with her to get influence, but not too much.


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Old 05-01-2008, 10:03 AM   #14
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I don't believe that's accurate. IIRC there is a level cap on the third sparring match, which is required for making HM a jedi.
Just to clarify - I said some characters can have enough influence gained from 1 conversation, not all. I listed Mira as an example - I think Visas Marr is another, although I'm not sure. The guide I linked above will tell you in detail.
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:47 PM   #15
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Yup, Mira, Visas, and Mical. Doesn't take much to influence G0-T0, either (90% of it you get when you accuse him of being a droid).


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