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Old 05-04-2008, 07:51 AM   #1
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Two blades or double-bladed?

On my second playthrough I chose two-handed weapon fighting feats for my sentinel and now I am wondering should I take two lightsaber or double-bladed? Which one is more effective?
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:22 AM   #2
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Two lightsabers (one regular and one short) are more effective, since you can upgrade them individually.


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Old 05-04-2008, 10:26 AM   #3
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I think two lightsabers provides better defense as well.
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Old 05-05-2008, 10:40 AM   #4
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Yeah, you'll suffer a penalty from duel wielding, and upgrading two individual sabers will negate that more then a single double bladed saber can.

Plus, if you want to go cool, two sabers is the way, even Kavar does it!

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Yeah two lightsabers is definitely the cool way to go...

I only wish that KotOR let you customize a hilt. I heard that TFU might allow for hilt customization...
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Two lightsabers (one regular and one short) are more effective, since you can upgrade them individually.
I used to think that too. But, recently, I've realized that, if you got two particularly powerful crystals, wouldn't it be better to use them on your currently using sabers (double-bladed) instead of using those on one of the sabers and using some other crystal, that's more mediocre on the other blade? (Single-bladed)


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Old 05-05-2008, 04:58 PM   #7
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I used to think that too. But, recently, I've realized that, if you got two particularly powerful crystals, wouldn't it be better to use them on your currently using sabers (double-bladed) instead of using those on one of the sabers and using some other crystal, that's more mediocre on the other blade? (Single-bladed)
I prefer to get 4 particularly powerful crystals and use 2 on each saber.
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I used to think that too. But, recently, I've realized that, if you got two particularly powerful crystals, wouldn't it be better to use them on your currently using sabers (double-bladed) instead of using those on one of the sabers and using some other crystal, that's more mediocre on the other blade? (Single-bladed)
Having two sabers means you get twice the upgrades. Especially in K2, since you can upgrade the lightsaber itself in addition to the crystals.


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Having two sabers means you get twice the upgrades. Especially in K2, since you can upgrade the lightsaber itself in addition to the crystals.
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I prefer to get 4 particularly powerful crystals and use 2 on each saber.
Yes, I'm well aware you don't get twice the upgrades on one saber. But let's suppose you have two powerful crystals and the others are crap. Isn't it better to use the two crystals on one lightsaber (double-bladed) instead of using a good one and a fairly crappy other? (One on each hand)


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Old 05-05-2008, 05:29 PM   #10
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Depends on what kind of crystal we're talking about. If it does additional damage or attack, then it would be better on a double-bladed. If it's just an attribute booster, then it doesn't matter.

And it's better to stick with a single saber until late in the game, when your base attack is high enough and when you've built up the dual weapon feats, and by then odds are you'll have a few decent crystals anyway. And in K2, the lightsaber hilt bonuses are far better than the crystal bonuses anyway.


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How about using 1 powerful crystal on each saber? Not sure how that would compare to using them both on the double-bladed saber.
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And it's better to stick with a single saber until late in the game, when your base attack is high enough and when you've built up the dual weapon feats, and by then odds are you'll have a few decent crystals anyway.
Yes, I agree with that. No way I go double-bladed before achieving mastery on the dual weapons feat.


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Old 05-05-2008, 05:46 PM   #13
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Normally double-bladed, but sometimes I use 2 sabers, one with a great damage and another to boost my skills and my attributes


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Old 05-07-2008, 09:23 AM   #14
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Depends on what kind of crystal we're talking about. If it does additional damage or attack, then it would be better on a double-bladed. If it's just an attribute booster, then it doesn't matter.

And it's better to stick with a single saber until late in the game, when your base attack is high enough and when you've built up the dual weapon feats, and by then odds are you'll have a few decent crystals anyway. And in K2, the lightsaber hilt bonuses are far better than the crystal bonuses anyway.
I think you can easily build up the dual weapon feats before you get a lightsaber. You usually have to be on the first planet after Telos, and would be about level 13 or so. By then even a Consular could have built up his dual weapon feats.

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Having two sabers means you get twice the upgrades. Especially in K2, since you can upgrade the lightsaber itself in addition to the crystals.
That's true only for the emitter Parts which increases attack and damage only affect one blade. Well, if you get some particular powerful stat-increasing crystals such as Kaliburr and Ankkares Sappihere, Jar'kai is the way to go.

The biggest advantage of double-blade in K2 is that for every strength modifier you get 1.5 damage on your mainhand. For people whose strength is high, actually double-blade will deal very serious damage to your opponent.
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:24 PM   #15
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I myself prefer two sword, guns, or even sabers, except for Mandalore, HK-47, and Kreia. But when I go to two sabers, on my main character, I just use two sabers, not the 4 swords I use, as there aren't all that many droids left to kill. Until close to Malachor. Once I get there, I switch out the saber that does a lot of blaster reflecting, to one that does about the same damage as my main saber. The crystals add some to damage, but so does the emitters, lens, and power cell. I go for additional critical damage when I am working up a saber. (double-bladed sabers make good components, when you need them.)


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Old 05-07-2008, 04:13 PM   #16
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I actually prefer single things, whether it be Swords or Lightsabers. - I have mods that replaces the droids -




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Old 05-07-2008, 07:03 PM   #17
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Two blades provides for more better effectiveness in battle, IE, about 1080* of defense/attack coverage, while a doubleblade provides about 720* of defense/attack coverage. Doubleblade provides for excellent assaults, but poor defense, while two blades provides for excellent defense and combat adaptability. That's why I choose two lightsabers instead of a doubleblade.


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Old 05-08-2008, 03:06 AM   #18
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Not necessarily. First of all, I'm not sure where you got the 1080 and 720 numbers. If you think you can block behind you with any kind of saber style, that would be a mistake--our anatomy doesn't allow us to do that. You also always want to keep your enemy in front of you, not to your side or back.

Double blade can defend as well as attack--you simply block with the blade. Having actually fought with both 1 and 2 rapiers....two blade style isn't about defense at all, it's all about attack, though you can use one or both blades to block an incoming attack. Your goal in that style is to get the guy distracted or his blade pulled off to one side with one of your blades and then nail him with the other blade.

I always carry 2 sabers in Kotor and TSL. Why? With a single blade you get 3 upgrades (3 crystals or 2 components and a crystal). With double-blade you get 3 upgrades. When you have 2 single blades, that means you have 6 upgrades--an advantage if you want something in your off hand for blaster bolt deflection or attribute bonuses, etc.


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Old 05-08-2008, 05:20 AM   #19
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When ever I played as revan, I used two light sabers. He was too much of a bad *** to use one. When I played as the exile, I one single blade light saber (more traditional jedi look).

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Old 05-09-2008, 01:32 AM   #20
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When ever I played as revan, I used two light sabers. He was too much of a bad *** to use one. When I played as the exile, I one single blade light saber (more traditional jedi look).
Well, surely Palpatine is more of a bad *** than Revan...
and Bastila is surely so nice that she could not use only one blade...

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And it's better to stick with a single saber until late in the game, when your base attack is high enough and when you've built up the dual weapon feats, and by then odds are you'll have a few decent crystals anyway. And in K2, the lightsaber hilt bonuses are far better than the crystal bonuses anyway.
Thats what I usually do, partly because I can't find a second saber. I also noticed that you have to build the hilt upgrades yourself, and that usually falls on Bao-Dur or Kreia to do that. Why are the one-handed people good at making stuff?

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Old 05-21-2008, 03:30 PM   #22
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I decided to try 2 bladed Lightsabers on my Exile and I did quite well.

Although it could have something to do with the feat mods I have.




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Thats what I usually do, partly because I can't find a second saber.
Yeah, that too. Honestly, sometimes it feels like I never get a short saber, while other times they're the only ones I'll get! Sometimes I have to resort to using an Echani vibroblade, if I'm lucky enough to have picked one up (or after I've modded it into normal gameplay ). Really nice weapon; stronger than a lightsaber when upgraded (assuming the lightsaber itself isn't upgraded ), and it has a pretty good critical threat range.

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I also noticed that you have to build the hilt upgrades yourself, and that usually falls on Bao-Dur or Kreia to do that. Why are the one-handed people good at making stuff?
Hey, what about T3? He has no hands. I usually have them make some of the upgrades (Kreia is my Treat Injury, Stealth, and Awareness slave, while Bao-dur takes care of Repair, Demolitions, and Security), but I also like to have my Exile have as many skill points as possible in most areas (I ignore TA and Stealth after getting a few points in each...more than I probably need), because the Exile does end up alone on more than one situation, and Obsidian wasn't as stingy as BioWare was with workbenches in such situations. While slogging through the Jekk'Jekk Tarr, I usually gain one or two levels (I'm estimating here), and usually I'm able to reach the next upgrade level once I find the workbench. More helpful to have them sooner, in the middle of a fight, rather than have the two stooges do it later. Maybe I'm just impatient.


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Old 05-21-2008, 06:11 PM   #24
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Revan got 2 lightsabers, Exile got 1 double-bladed lightsaber
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Bastila and handmaiden always had a doublesaber, everyone else duel wielded or single bladed



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I prefer Jar'kai personally (in both reality and the games) as I always find double-blading it rather unnatural looking. In game 2 it really hits harder once I've gotten the Ruusan and 'Exile' crystals and the latter starts to 'earn interest', than my Force powers start to skyrocket. The downside is I get to powerful and then there's no fun in fighting the hordes of foes like there is on the starforge.
Defense, when one plays as a Force wielder in game 2, is more economic than enormous attack because I relegate most attribute points to wisdom, charisma, and dexterity. What I'm trying to say is that I use my sabers to up my lightening and defense as I prefer just zapping a room clean rather than duking it out with every single Sith assassin. Plus with two sabers I can have silver and cyan blades simulataniously!


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Obviously 2 blades gives you more power, but the games not that hard, and Double-Bladed is way cooler than 2 lightsabers.

So, it's up to you, I ALWAYS go Double-bladed though...


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Old 07-09-2008, 02:41 AM   #28
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Well, I i divide my party in groups of 2 members: Atton-Mira, Kreia-Visas, Mandalore-Handmaiden, etc. and I take duals and I give one guy a single hilt in one slot and an very upgraded and powerful pistol in the other slot and I give the other guy a double in one slot and a rifle/gun in the other slot.

IMO: they are all cool and advantageous in their way, but I keep duals because I use duals at martial arts and I also use duals at any other Star Wars game...


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i prefere to use a double bladed one but i have done it with 2 sabers and doing itnow with a double and i seem to be doing better but tht could also be experiance lol!


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Double blades are certainly more effective because of the extra crystals and so and so forth, but from a cool-factor point of view, they don't compared to a saberstaff. Two blades always seemed a bit impractical for someone in the Exile's position.

However, cool people use single-bladed 'sabers. 'Natch.
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Two blades always seemed a bit impractical for someone in the Exile's position.
Why for the Exile's position specifically?
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Single blade is the way to go, IMO, but it does look pretty effing awesome when 6 lightsabers are activated at once at the beginning of a fight.


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Why for the Exile's position specifically?
The whole on-a-quest, one-man/woman-against-the-galaxy, on-the-run sort of scenario suggest, to me, no need for the addition of a second lightsaber, as the Jar'Kai suggest - again, to me - the luxury of being able to let yourself go, whereas a single saber says defensive. all imo of course, and I don't know if anyone else feels the same way.
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well i like having differewnt colours when i have two sabers lol but i get bored of one saber i know it sounds wierd but i just think that everybody else uses it and i like to be diferent lol! but i love unarmed fighting but i have never used a female exile before so i thought i would try it but i forgot u didn't get the handmaden and forgotten to train on telos first... sorry that was a bit off the convo lol!


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I like twin lightsabers because they are easier to fight with than a staff you can't touch and have to avoid being touched with. Single sabers are just more manageable and less dangerous to the user.
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That would be funny, "eeerrrr.... Darth maul, what happened to your arm..?"
"well i was spinning around my saber around and well i forgot it was a double and i cut it off" hahahahaha... but a single one would be easier to use =D


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When I'm playing TSL sometimes it is best to set two sabers as your secondary weapon and a double blade as your first so you can ust swap at a touch of a button.

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When I'm playing TSL sometimes it is best to set two sabers as your secondary weapon and a double blade as your first so you can ust swap at a touch of a button.

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But that leaves no option for just a single blade


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But that leaves no option for just a single blade
If your character is already proficient with two bladed weapons, then a single saber would be restrictive.

You can use a single saber for up to two attacks per round(with flurry), but up to four w/master speed. You can get up to five w/two/double bladed weapons. Although they are not as effective as each attack by a single blade, the fact you get another more than makes up for that. The wisdom and blaster deflection abilities are also much greater w/two sabers.

The double is restricted in number of deflection/wisdom upgrades, but it is more economic than two sabers. The only catch is that double MUST be used a character w/mastery two handed weapons. The single sabers could be distributed to two characters w/out those feats.
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Agreed, 100%. But I like to use single saber just because I feel that is more Jedi, and the game is already easy enough. I do go double saber at times though, because it makes the battle end sooner.


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