E3 '08=confirmations or not? - Page 4

HK-42 · 07-17-2008, 06:13 PM

lets look on the brightside: Its KOTOR there might be a single playler with it. Lets wait.

linxx_ · 07-17-2008, 06:13 PM

After a year and a half playing an MMO, I never want to play another one again, theres always those idiots that ruin your game experience, and of course the endless grind for cash and equipment... can you imagine? "Quest: Kill X Bomas for a lightsaber part" "Quest: Get X Rancor claws for another lightsaber part" with like 20 other people doing the same quest ...Never again....

zemegauser · 07-17-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by linxx_

After a year and a half playing an MMO, I never want to play another one again, theres always those idiots that ruin your game experience, and of course the endless grind for cash and equipment... can you imagine? "Quest: Kill X Bomas for a lightsaber part" "Quest: Get X Rancor claws for another lightsaber part" ...Never again....

I agree.

Nedak · 07-17-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by zemegauser

Spoken like an old man, it's an MMO! We want singleplayer, MMO sucks. What idea could possibly be "revolutionary"?

For all you know this might not even be KOTOR III just a Knights of the Old Republic MMO.

All this MMO is going to do is take SWG's dying place and show people what a GOOD SW MMO could look like.

They will most likely take all of the lessons learned from SWG and implement them in this game.

RyuuKage · 07-17-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by han sala

You all are panicking when they HAVEN'T EVEN SHOWED ANY IDEAS ON THE GAME YET.

For all we know it could be revolutionary idea.

dude...it's an MMO...no matter what cool stuff you introduce, it still ends up as a grinder with no decent storyline.

Master Zionosis · 07-17-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by han sala

For all you know this might not even be KOTOR III just a Knights of the Old Republic MMO.

All this MMO is going to do is take SWG's dying place and show people what a GOOD SW MMO could look like.

They will most likely take all of the lessons learned from SWG and implement them in this game.

Yeah exactly. I said a long long time ago that they won't make a K3 MMO it will be a separate game. Besides such a prestigious company like Bioware aren't going to screw it up.

I'm amazed at how many narrow minded people there are on here.

linxx_ · 07-17-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by han sala

For all you know this might not even be KOTOR III just a Knights of the Old Republic MMO.

All this MMO is going to do is take SWG's dying place and show people what a GOOD SW MMO could look like.

They will most likely take all of the lessons learned from SWG and implement them in this game.

Thats true, I believe this is NOT K3, its just a KOTOR MMO, BASED on the franchise... even so, if it isnt K3, then that means it will either never be made or it will take many many years to be made... and that sucks

Sharen Thrawn · 07-17-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by han sala

You all are panicking when they HAVEN'T EVEN SHOWED ANY IDEAS ON THE GAME YET.

For all we know it could be revolutionary idea.

Agree. If there's one developer who deserves at least a chance with (KO)TOR MMO, it's definitely BioWare.

RyuuKage · 07-17-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by linxx_

Thats true, I believe this is NOT K3, its just a KOTOR MMO, BASED on the franchise... even so, if it isnt K3, then that means it will either never be made or it will take many many years to be made... and that sucks

that's the problem. we have to wait untold number more years for a real sequel because of this? i find that almost insulting...i'm starting to agree with the people who complain about The Force Unleashed not getting a PC release: I think Lucasarts really is just trying to piss us off anymore...

zemegauser · 07-17-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Master Zionosis

Yeah exactly. I said a long long time ago that they won't make a K3 MMO it will be a separate game. Besides such a prestigious company like Bioware aren't going to screw it up.

I'm amazed at how many narrow minded people there are on here.

Narrow minded? Fat chance. Did you realize that if Bioware are gonna work on MMO, then that will mean no KOTOR 3 for quite a while. Many years maybe. Unless you want another crappy company to take over and really mess up the KOTOR 3 game. But I guess you higher-minded person would like to not have KOTOR 3 for much longer.

Narrow mind my ass, you are the one that is narrow minded!

darthclydefrog · 07-17-2008, 06:22 PM

That is WoW your describing, You never know what this game will be like. It could be like LOTRO with instanced chapters released frequently driving forward an awesome story. different classes, jedi, bounty hunter, merc. soldier, medic, etc. Add in tons of cool races and a diablo style hunter gatherer system with tons of new weapons items componets for crafting...
It might be playable....

Nedak · 07-17-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RyuuKage

dude...it's an MMO...no matter what cool stuff you introduce, it still ends up as a grinder with no decent storyline.

Clearly you have been playing the wrong MMOs.

Also, grinding is become old news. Most new MMOs are implementing things so grinding doesn't become as tedious.

Also as far as a story line, there are plenty of games with good storylines.

Learn to be a little more open-minded

HK-42 · 07-17-2008, 06:24 PM

NOOO Not another Band game....

linxx_ · 07-17-2008, 06:25 PM

And plus... MMO's are known to be ADDICTIVE, and I know that from experience. Sooner or later, it may very well become like the others, and be just about keeping people hooked on the game whilst the story doenst even make sense anymore. Again this is speculation, I dont know how the game is gonna be.. just thinking out loud here

darthclydefrog · 07-17-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HK-42

NOOO Not another Band game....

Ugh....

zemegauser · 07-17-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by han sala

Clearly you have been playing the wrong MMOs.

Also, grinding is become old news. Most new MMOs are implementing things so grinding doesn't become as tedious.

Also as far as a story line, there are plenty of games with good storylines.

Learn to be a little more open-minded

Come on, give me examples. Back up your opinion or it has no value.

gm5k · 07-17-2008, 06:26 PM

it's amazing how how many of it's fans Bioware is pissing off with this possible move...every forum i go to people are going insane.

it will be SO ****** if Bioware only releases an MMO and never a real KOTOR III.

i was trying to look on the bright side of this earlier, but the more i think about it the more upset i get.

Nedak · 07-17-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by zemegauser

Did you realize that if Bioware are gonna work on MMO, then that will mean no KOTOR 3 for quite a while. Many years maybe.

Bioware is a big company. They are already making many games right now the way it is. I'm sure in a year or two they'll start working on KOTOR III.

zbyl2 · 07-17-2008, 06:27 PM

That is boring... How long we must wait for anything about K3?

HK-42 · 07-17-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gm5k

it's amazing how how many of it's fans Bioware is pissing off with this possible move...every forum i go to people are going insane.

Maybe that will make them cancel it...

RyuuKage · 07-17-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by darthclydefrog

That is WoW your describing, You never know what this game will be like. It could be like LOTRO with instanced chapters released frequently driving forward an awesome story. different classes, jedi, bounty hunter, merc. soldier, medic, etc. Add in tons of cool races and a diablo style hunter gatherer system with tons of new weapons items componets for crafting...
It might be playable....

every MMO i've played is the same after about ten or fifteen hours

LOTRO: pointless quest, grind
SWG: pointless quest, grind
FFXI: pointless quest, grind
GW: pointless quest, grind

I will never touch WOW, lolz

yes there are plenty of games with good storylines. NONE of them are MMOs...

Master Zionosis · 07-17-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by zemegauser

Narrow minded? Fat chance. Did you realize that if Bioware are gonna work on MMO, then that will mean no KOTOR 3 for quite a while. Many years maybe. Unless you want another crappy company to take over and really mess up the KOTOR 3 game. But I guess you higher-minded person would like to not have KOTOR 3 for much longer.

Narrow mind my ass, you are the one that is narrow minded!

Do you even know what narrow minded is? How am I narrow minded I'm open to the idea of a KotOR MMO, I'm being open minded, not narrow minded or higher-minded (which doesn't even relate to this).

And actually I am quite prepared to wait for K3, I'm in no hurry, if there are true fans of KotOR, then when K3 is finally released, be it 10 years from now, the true fans will come back and play it, time is no risk here. Also, on the subject of 'crappy' companies, Obsidian (including their ideas) made the better game, it was the time constraints put in place by LA that makes people prefer K1...

Sharen Thrawn · 07-17-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HK-42

Maybe that will make them cancel it...

The game is in development for more than 2 years already. They won't cancel it.

zemegauser · 07-17-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by han sala

Bioware is a big company. They are already making many games right now the way it is. I'm sure in a year or two they'll start working on KOTOR III.

Then what game will they focus on the most.
They will probally put aside a small, unexperienced group for KOTOR 3, and put the experts into the money grinder KOTOR MMO.

linxx_ · 07-17-2008, 06:30 PM

"I will never touch WOW, lolz" - A wise decision, I must say.

zemegauser · 07-17-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Master Zionosis

Do you even know what narrow minded is? How am I narrow minded I'm open to the idea of a KotOR MMO, I'm being open minded, not narrow minded or higher-minded (which isn't even a word).

And actually I am quite prepared to wait for K3, I'm in no hurry, if there are true fans of KotOR, then when K3 is finally released, be it 10 years from now, the true fans will come back and play it, time is no risk here. Also, on the subject of 'crappy' companies, Obsidian (including their ideas) made the better game, it was the time constraints put in place by LA that makes people prefer K1...

Maybe, we shall see. I would have rather have it right now, ten years from now is a long time, and who knows what I will be doing then.

HK-42 · 07-17-2008, 06:32 PM

They wont get my monthly fees Ill only buy the game then do f2p if its p2p im not buying....

darthclydefrog · 07-17-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RyuuKage

every MMO i've played is the same after about ten or fifteen hours

LOTRO: pointless quest, grind
SWG: pointless quest, grind
FFXI: pointless quest, grind
GW: pointless quest, grind

I will never touch WOW, lolz

My mistake. MMO's aren't for everyone, and this news might be disappointing, but hey it might be worth playing for others. I for one want to play and try this game. I also want to play an epic SPRPG resolving the story lines KOTOR and KOTOR2 began. We'll see. Maybe this game will set the stage for a future kotor 3....

Nedak · 07-17-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by zemegauser

Come on, give me examples. Back up your opinion or it has no value.

Alright my hyper friend.

Games implementing little grinding are games like DarkFall and another game which name escapes me.

There will always be grinding in MMOs but making grinding fun and exciting is the key. That's why SWG use to be so fun.

As far as storyline, (though I didn't like the gameplay) Lord of the Rings Online in my opinion had a very good storyline. Also AoC has a good story from what I've heard.

It's all about making it fun.

RyuuKage · 07-17-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by darthclydefrog

My mistake. MMO's aren't for everyone, and this news might be disappointing, but hey it might be worth playing for others. I for one want to play and try this game. I also want to play an epic SPRPG resolving the story lines KOTOR and KOTOR2 began. We'll see. Maybe this game will set the stage for a future kotor 3....

i doubt that, since the rumors (which are apparently true now) place this MMO around 3500 BBY where KotOR is a little less than 4000 BBY

zemegauser · 07-17-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharen Thrawn

The game is in development for more than 2 years already. They won't cancel it.

Two years....wow. They better show some gameplay then.

gm5k · 07-17-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by zemegauser

Two years....wow. They better show some gameplay then.

don't get your hopes up. i think they enjoy messing with us.

zemegauser · 07-17-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gm5k

don't get your hopes up. i think they enjoy messing with us.

Messing? More like torturing us.

And to Han--- Ok fine then, we shall see how it turns out then we can discuss about it in more detail. Pointless arguing about something we know barely anything about.

HK-42 · 07-17-2008, 06:38 PM

I dont think we were suppose to today im sure everybodys pretty pisssed at the CEO right now.

RyuuKage · 07-17-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by han sala

There will always be grinding in MMOs but making grinding fun and exciting is the key.

*receive random quest*
*kill*
*loot*
*kill*
*loot*
*kill*
*loot*
*kill*
*loot*
*finish random quest*

how do you make that fun? there's only so much you can do in an MMO. The very elements that make it massively multiplayer also restrict depth or variation. quests in general fall into "go get this", "go kill this", "go here", or some combination of those three things.

darthclydefrog · 07-17-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RyuuKage

i doubt that, since the rumors (which are apparently true now) place this MMO around 3500 BBY where KotOR is a little less than 4000 BBY

Maybe i missed the announcement of a confirmed time period... that would be cool though. Lots of fertile ground in between the mandalorian wars and the "new sith war."

gm5k · 07-17-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HK-42

I dont think we were suppose to today im sure everybodys pretty pisssed at the CEO right now.

that'd be weird. i mean could there possibly be any more hype for this freaking supposed game.

HK-42 · 07-17-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RyuuKage

*receive random quest*
*kill*
*loot*
*kill*
*loot*
*kill*
*loot*
*kill*
*loot*
*finish random quest*

how do you make that fun? there's only so much you can do in an MMO. The very elements that make it massively multiplayer also restrict depth or variation. quests in general fall into "go get this", "go kill this", "go here", or some combination of those three things.

there will be puzzles quests with storylines. Try playing Runescape...with public off....

RyuuKage · 07-17-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by darthclydefrog

Maybe i missed the announcement of a confirmed time period... that would be cool though. Lots of fertile ground in between the mandalorian wars and the "new sith war."

well it's not confirmed, but it's part of the leak about Lucasarts copyrighting three Star Wars titles for games. Two are likely red herrings, and the third (and sorta obvious) Star Wars The Old Republic is likely the real deal. at least i read it in something affiliated with that, lol

HK-42 · 07-17-2008, 06:43 PM

somebody confirmed the leak during e3 saying the CEO was right....