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Old 08-12-2008, 05:49 AM   #41
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Pathways Into Darkness

Mixing shooter, survival horror adventure and roleplaying game elements. It was a fun game with a rather peculiar "dialog" system that much of the story telling was delivered through.

Slightly more recent notable ones, that are also hybrids mixing FPS with other genres, are Deus Ex and System Shock 2.

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Old 08-12-2008, 06:29 AM   #42
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Personally I'm waiting for Farcry 2. Everything about that looks fantastic, and hopefully it will deliver.
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I'm surprised no-one has mentioned this one - Time Crisis! The arcade classic with the oversized blue and pink plastic guns and reload pedal! Spent hundreds of pounds on that thing and wasted weeks of my life...
...still didn't beat the high score!


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Old 08-12-2008, 04:52 PM   #44
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Old 08-12-2008, 06:08 PM   #45
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Ughh.... I hate time crisis with a passion. The game, to me, is lacking in every department.

Graphics: As of TC4 -Outdated and too arcade-ish.
Gameplay: Wow... I take this plasticy pistol thingymajigger and point it at a screen and press a trigger... wow... It's like it belongs in an arcade, oh, wait a second.
Story: Is there even one?

Maybe I haven't played it enough, who knows, but I really dislike that game.


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Old 08-12-2008, 06:18 PM   #46
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Ughh.... I hate time crisis with a passion. The game, to me, is lacking in every department.

Graphics: As of TC4 -Outdated and too arcade-ish.
Gameplay: Wow... I take this plasticy pistol thingymajigger and point it at a screen and press a trigger... wow... It's like it belongs in an arcade, oh, wait a second.
Story: Is there even one?

Maybe I haven't played it enough, who knows, but I really dislike that game.
Don't get me wrong, the console versions were utterly awful! I liked the arcade original. I played it once on the PS1 then never again...


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Old 08-12-2008, 09:51 PM   #47
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I loved Time Crisis, but Its nowhere even on my top 100!!!! Still people, you gotta try Half-Life!
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Old 08-12-2008, 10:09 PM   #48
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Yes, Half-Life does seem to take the cake, though HL2 delivers, and HL2: DM blew my pants off. Bloody great game, though, the grabbing the nade with the grav gun sorta took the wind outta my sails.


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Old 08-12-2008, 10:44 PM   #49
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Old 08-12-2008, 10:49 PM   #50
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I'm going to have to go with Crysis here. I've never had more fun with a FPS than I have the multiple times I've played through Crysis. The gameplay and graphics astounded me, and I quite enjoyed the voice acting as well, especially from Psycho. I'm definitely looking forward to Warhead next month.
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:09 PM   #51
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Actually JtH hit the nail right on the head.


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Old 08-12-2008, 11:17 PM   #52
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I think what he meant by the Ghost Recon and GRAW comment, was that he enjoyed both of them as separate games.


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i did mean franchise but series sounds better. even wikipedia says ghost recon series.

i have played ghost recon, ghost recon island thunder, ghost recon 2, ghost recon 2 summit strike, ghost recon advanced warfighter (xbox version), ghost recon advanced warfighter 2 (xbox 360 version). I enjoyed each ghost recon game that i've played. all the ones i have played were on xbox and xbox 360.


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The Xbox & (360) ones were the best. GRAW on Playstation 2 was mediocre at best, and the graphics were less than par on the PS2 also.

Though, 'tis a good point, the whole Ghost Recon series and GRAW (haven't played GRAW 2 yet) were extremely good.


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Old 08-13-2008, 01:54 AM   #55
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Alright, I take it back, Freespace isn't really an FPS. Still, I've got a hefty list.

Half Life 2: Really, it's the benchline for any pure FPS these days for both storyline and gameplay. Hell, HL2's storyline easily surpasses most RPGs.

Portal: I'm almost hesitant to put it here, but the game was awesome enough that I can't resist. The only game on my list that I feel is actually a better game than Half Life 2.

Star Wars: Republic Commando: Not even close to the above two, but still the best Star Wars shooter I've ever played. Sorry, I don't count the Jedi Knight games as being shooters, only Dark Forces - you really never used your blaster in Jedi Knight after you got your Lightsaber.

Of course, that would make it, what, the second Star Wars shooter in existence?
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:02 PM   #56
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Alright, I take it back, Freespace isn't really an FPS. Still, I've got a hefty list.

Half Life 2: Really, it's the benchline for any pure FPS these days for both storyline and gameplay. Hell, HL2's storyline easily surpasses most RPGs.

Portal: I'm almost hesitant to put it here, but the game was awesome enough that I can't resist. The only game on my list that I feel is actually a better game than Half Life 2.

Star Wars: Republic Commando: Not even close to the above two, but still the best Star Wars shooter I've ever played. Sorry, I don't count the Jedi Knight games as being shooters, only Dark Forces - you really never used your blaster in Jedi Knight after you got your Lightsaber.

Of course, that would make it, what, the second Star Wars shooter in existence?
Damn man, you just about got all my favorite shooters in that list (If you count Portal as a shooter. ).

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Old 08-13-2008, 09:53 PM   #57
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hes got a point and mine are Republic Commando
the call of duty franchise and Resident Evil 4 that game was freakin awesome
RE4 is fantastic, but how exactly is it a FPS? On the zoom screen when with the sniper?


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I think RE4 is a Third Person shooter like Gears of War, but that mighyt be incorrect because all I've seen are screenies.

I think FPS is better than TPS.

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Meh, I lump 'em both together as Shooters. They're really not enough different to warrant their own genre.
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:03 PM   #60
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well i think its considered a fps because its not behind-the-back camera like in gears its over-the-shoulder which is basically like through your eyes and thats how you see the whole time so i say it qualifies




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Old 08-13-2008, 10:25 PM   #61
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Not to et technical, but First-Person Shooter means your seeeing it from the persons eyes exactly, which is what Halo is. Third Person shooter is anywhere besides the eyes, meaning Gers of War and Resident Evil 4.

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Old 08-13-2008, 10:52 PM   #62
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well i think for arguments sake that it should be called a fps also if you look it up it comes up as a fps




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Old 08-13-2008, 10:57 PM   #63
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At the moment, sicne I haven't played any xbox 360 or PS3 games, my favorite fps would be Halo 2...


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well i think for arguments sake that it should be called a fps also if you look it up it comes up as a fps
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Old 08-14-2008, 01:28 AM   #65
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Such a cool storyline, and such cool charecters.

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Rainbow Six:Vegas

I really don't know why people hate the new rainbow six's, the old ones where all "OMG PLAN FOO!" the new ones are just plain fun.

Halo 1
The only good halo.

And why do people like the old Ghost Recons? The GRAW seris is SO much better, but Ghost Recon itself, I don't like, there to limited in your ability to do anything other than shoot.

Am I the only one who DOSEN'T like Red Storm? Like, I'd Love to be able to take cover behind walls and do half the things you can do in the single player GRAW, in multiplayer, but no. Redstorm loves keeping everything limited and boring.

Like, I.E, Rainbow Six Vegas's multiplayer was made by Ubi and it OWNS Graw in everyway, except maybe heli-hunt, that was kinda fun.


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Rainbow Six:Vegas

I really don't know why people hate the new rainbow six's, the old ones where all "OMG PLAN FOO!" the new ones are just plain fun.

And why do people like the old Ghost Recons? The GRAW seris is SO much better, but Ghost Recon itself, I don't like, there to limited in your ability to do anything other than shoot.

Am I the only one who DOSEN'T like Red Storm? Like, I'd Love to be able to take cover behind walls and do half the things you can do in the single player GRAW, in multiplayer, but no. Redstorm loves keeping everything limited and boring.

Like, I.E, Rainbow Six Vegas's multiplayer was made by Ubi and it OWNS Graw in everyway, except maybe heli-hunt, that was kinda fun.
No, I am sure that there are plenty Button Mashing ADD Generation of Console Kiddies like yourself that don't like the original RSE. Heaven forbid you use your head for something other than a hat rack. It is the ADHD Button mashing console kiddies that are ruining PC games. Consolfication has already killed three good gaming developers/publishers.

You better pray that the FBI's HRT or a similar organization never takes your attitude of "OMG PLAN FOO!" should you need rescued.


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Old 08-14-2008, 11:15 AM   #67
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Oh, great, now we've gotten into "Your group is ruining PC gaming!" "No, the decline of PC video games is all your fault." "First Person shooter tribes raided my Adventure gaming camp" Now you've ignited one of the Cardinal Sleeping Hellfires that lurk under the Internet (Well Done). Give it a week and all of Tristram, sorry, Lucasforums will be burning down and it'll only be a matter of time before Diablo frees Mephisto and Baal.
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Rainbow Six:Vegas

I really don't know why people hate the new rainbow six's, the old ones where all "OMG PLAN FOO!" the new ones are just plain fun.
The newer Rainbow Six games dumbed down and removed what had been a staple of the Rainbow Six series - tactical planning.

It wasn't just a shooter, it was simulation of CTU and Special Forces operations, much in same way that the original Ghost Recon was.

I find still find Rogue Spear to the most engaging of the Rainbow Six games - it has a good story, and the tactical options were great.






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Old 08-14-2008, 12:18 PM   #69
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~Bioshock probably tops my list. It's a masterpiece, even though the wrench > all guns.

~The entire Half Life series. I hadn't played any of them up until around February of this year. I finally got interested in the series and bought the HL1 anthology on eBay and the Orange Box for 360. I was intent on playing the games in order so I had to refrain from launching HL2 while I was waiting for the anthology to get here. That was maddening. All I had to distract me was Portal. But once I did play Half Life, I was amazed. I never thought I would have had so much fun with a decade-old game.

~The aforementioned Portal. It's in first person and you have a gun. Furthermore, it kills most FPS's in terms of all other elements. GLaDOS ftw.

~F.E.A.R. It was my first 360 game. I had wanted it ever since it came out and never thought I'd get it because my PC couldn't handle it. It's also the first horror game I ever played fully through, I think. It really opened up the horror genre for me. I loved that it didn't focus on the shock horror that games like Doom do. I love pretty much everything about the game. I also got the "expansions", though those are much less appealing to me. The engine has not aged well. Looking forward to Project Origin.

~Call of Duty 4. I am so ****ing sick of WWII. After all the wars humanity has gone through, WWII is apparently the only one that the video game industry can find interest in. Modern Warfare was a perfect refreshing break from that 20x-overkilled time era. Even though it's a very linear game, the differing environments, extremely intense, alternating action, amazing sound, etc. make the game an easy addition to my favs.

~The Halo series. I hate Halo's multiplayer both for the immature "things" that tend to flock to it and because of its arcade-shooter style. I play the Halo games for the single player, and that's it. That said, Halo is my favorite game of the series, of course. It's really obvious that Bungie forwent focusing on the singleplayer once they realized they could capitalize on a bunch of crazy children who's parents don't regulate what they watch and play at all, at least to me. Regardless, I love the Halo universe, and I have the books.

That's all I can think of right now.
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~Call of Duty 4. I am so ****ing sick of WWII. After all the wars humanity has gone through, WWII is apparently the only one that the video game industry can find interest in. Modern Warfare was a perfect refreshing break from that 20x-overkilled time era. Even though it's a very linear game, the differing environments, extremely intense, alternating action, amazing sound, etc. make the game an easy addition to my favs.


...and the SAS! Really, I found it refreshing to play as something that I recognise, rather than just a generic American super-soldier! Also, how many other games let you go through an atomic blast?


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Old 08-14-2008, 04:29 PM   #71
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~Call of Duty 4. I am so ****ing sick of WWII. After all the wars humanity has gone through, WWII is apparently the only one that the video game industry can find interest in.
What about pretty much every Tom Clancy game ever?



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~Call of Duty 4. I am so ****ing sick of WWII. After all the wars humanity has gone through, WWII is apparently the only one that the video game industry can find interest in.
Maybe it's because the Second World War is perhaps the most single most defining event of the 20th century?

I'd rather be slogging my way through the fields of Normandy than shooting some arab in the middle-east, in a possible attempt to make recent wars look good.






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The Great War defined the world and set the stage for World War 2, though. Then again, you'd need to quicksave every time you charged across the field between trenches until you inevitably got slaughtered by machinegun fire.
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It's an obvious exaggeration :\. To put it as literally as possible: There's way too many WWII games out there, and I am quite tired of them. You can only make a game so good when you know the ultimate outcome of the entire conflict, let alone practically every major battle. You can't add any interesting weapons that haven't already been seen dozens of times. You can't add "new enemies". The only things WWII games can do is improve on gameplay and presentation, and that's not enough for me to continue caring about the era. I need innovation in other categories such as story.

I'm a bit disappointed IW reverted back to the WWII era again. The game will probably be good, but I still won't buy it. I'm tired of Stormtroopers and Panzers and those wretched Garand's with their obnoxious *CLING*s for christ sake.
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There are tons of enemies in WWII that gamers have never faced (for FPS games, at least). How about a campaign as Nazi Germany and fight Poland or something? How about fighting from the Japanese perspective? Maybe we can be Finland in the Winter War, with a follow up with Operation Barbarrosa? The Axis side of WWII has HARDLY been touched, and I can think of great ways to get an awesome storyline out of it. All you people who say that WWII games have been done too many times are very, very wrong. What's wrong is that the people who make them do the SAME things everytime, not the conflict itself. There are thousands of epic battles that have gone unsung in WWII games. It's FAR from dead.


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Who wants to play as the Axis? The Nazis and the Japanese and to a lesser extent the Italians, the Vichy French, and the various other Axis states were some of the most cruel and evil Governments in the last 200 years, with the firepower to back up their intent. I can tell you I sure as hell wouldn't enjoy playing as a crusader for Fascism, especially given one rather pressing fact.

The Nazis lost. Endgame cinematic is, what, the protagonist in a POW Camp?
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The Great War defined the world and set the stage for World War 2, though. Then again, you'd need to quicksave every time you charged across the field between trenches until you inevitably got slaughtered by machinegun fire.
Very true, Corinthian. But there are plenty of theatres in the First World War that could be used for a game - the Mediteranean campaigns, or the war on the Eastern Front - these campaigns were much more mobile than their western counterpart.

But that doesn't really explain why there's no WWI based strategy games...

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It's an obvious exaggeration :\. To put it as literally as possible: There's way too many WWII games out there, and I am quite tired of them.
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I'm a bit disappointed IW reverted back to the WWII era again. The game will probably be good, but I still won't buy it. I'm tired of Stormtroopers and Panzers and those wretched Garand's with their obnoxious *CLING*s for christ sake.
Firstly, they didn't have Stormtroopers in WWII, only the SS, and they are *not* Stormtroopers.

And as for the noise made by a Garand upon cartridge ejection, you find historical accuracy 'obnoxious'?

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Who wants to play as the Axis?
Sometimes I find playing as the Soviets almost as bad, considering their crimes in the war.






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Who wants to play as the Axis?
Probably the same people who like to play evil/dark side characters in games in general, and sith/dark jedi in Star Wars games in particular. Judging by the amount of Darths around I'd say that's a fair number.

Sure, one is purely fiction while the other has a historial basis, but they're both just games intended for entertainment. I doubt most people play WWII games for educational purposes and care much for absolute historical accuracy. At least I have yet to see any WWII game that's an actual reflection of what really happened.

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