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View Poll Results: Bastilla: Like her or hate her?
What an awesome character! I love her! 58 38.67%
She got cool after she turned Dark Side 18 12.00%
I like her solely for her looks and her accent 23 15.33%
Meh, she's okay. 18 12.00%
Romance her? Gag me... 4 2.67%
Shut up, you spoiled, pampered little twit of a Jedi Princess! 15 10.00%
Die, Jedi dog! 5 3.33%
Yoda... 9 6.00%
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Old 10-13-2008, 06:02 PM   #41
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How can you judge that on Visas' half a face? lol

She is hot.
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:02 PM   #42
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I really like her character - until she's captured by Malak. Then she becomes a little ridiculous. "Ooh, Look at me, I'm so evil. EEVIL. EEEEEEEEEEEVIL. But I love you, and you're not evil, so I can't be evil" Geez.
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Old 10-14-2008, 01:13 AM   #43
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Not really. It follows 'Yahtzee's Rule of Alternate Endings' - either your ending is you becoming a friendly neighborhood Sith Lord Hero of the Republic, or you become a Dog-Kicking Galaxy-Burning monster. Why can't the Hero of the Republic burn him some galaxies, kick a dog here and there?
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Old 10-14-2008, 02:08 AM   #44
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Why can't the Hero of the Republic burn him some galaxies, kick an Ewok here and there?
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Bastila has a very compelling character. On the surface she seems haughty and shallow (which in and of itself is unusual for a Jedi), but she obviously has some inner demons regarding the Force and the Jedi Code, and her game-long battle with it makes for a very interesting character.

You don't see that kind of thing in the films. In the films it's all either 'lol light Jedi' or 'lol dark Jedi' or 'lol light Jedi that becomes dark Jedi.' The lol's are for emphasis. >_>
Which is why she is my second favorite KotOR character after Kreia.


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Old 10-14-2008, 06:57 AM   #46
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was visas modelled after kelly hu as bastila with jennifer hale?
i think kelly hu is a model or something. not sure.
she doesnt look bad in that pic... where is it from?



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it is not a cry of joy.
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:53 AM   #47
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she's good looking, or sexy--if mods are installed

but she's just another Aribeth created by Bioware, nothing more...

similar good-look and different-from-common accent
similar betrayal
similar "romance" and return

etc...
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Old 10-14-2008, 01:52 PM   #48
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she's the batilla of the K2 universe!!!
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Old 10-14-2008, 02:48 PM   #49
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she's good looking, or sexy--if mods are installed

but she's just another Aribeth created by Bioware, nothing more...

similar good-look and different-from-common accent
similar betrayal
similar "romance" and return

etc...
Which is why I'm glad I hadn't played NWN's OC before I played KotOR1, as it would have spoiled KotOR, and KotOR did it better in any event. As a matter of fact, I wish I'd never played NWN's OC at all.


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Old 10-14-2008, 03:01 PM   #50
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Bastila was one of the best Kotor characters, imo. Until she turned DS. The only thing I never liked about her role in the game: you can't kill her with the DS ending. Bah! Humbug!


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Old 10-14-2008, 06:16 PM   #51
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Eh... I like Bastila, but she starts to grate on my nerves after a while with the lectures and assuming command on Taris...but, having just said that, once the story actually starts, then she becomes interesting, and a worthwhile companion.

In fact, I never leave the Ebon Hawk without her... except for Korriban, when she's getting tortured by Malak.

Anyway, thanks for destroying NWN for me! I've been meaning to finish it one of these days... weeks... months... years? By OC, I'm assuming you mean Original Campaign, yes?


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Old 10-14-2008, 07:05 PM   #52
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Anyway, thanks for destroying NWN for me! I've been meaning to finish it one of these days... weeks... months... years? By OC, I'm assuming you mean Original Campaign, yes?
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:47 PM   #53
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Thank god,I never played NW.Anyways,I love BASTILA(see my WIP thread if you don't believe me).


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Old 10-14-2008, 09:12 PM   #54
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:44 AM   #55
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Meh, she is very low on my list of good characters. An arogant insecure doll who lectures I could like. An arogant insecure doll who lectures/prattles while dropping not-so-subtle hints about her eventual "fall", then turns into a power hungry girl toy when she finaly does, not so much.


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Old 10-15-2008, 04:26 AM   #56
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Thank god,I never played NW.Anyways,I love BASTILA(see my WIP thread if you don't believe me).
I know that I am in the minority. However I do like the OC of NWN.

Wendee Lee was the one who did the voice of Aribeth not Jennifer Hale.


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Old 10-15-2008, 04:16 PM   #57
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A tragic character. I'm only able to turn her away from suicide by saber brawl about half the time,

Born to a troubled family, and parents whose marriage seemed to be on the skids. Then, abandoned to the Jedi Order as a small child, shut up in enclaves and drilled relentlessly. She parroted the dogma, became the perfect little doll image they wanted, saying the right codes, kowtowing towards the right Masters - beautiful in appearance, obedient, powerful in the Force...

And painfully, tragically brittle. She was already falling towards the Dark Side, and it's even more apparent if you play DSM Revan. Malak gives her a BIG shove over the edge, playing up her insecurities and ripping her apart using the cracks in her armor.


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Old 10-15-2008, 05:27 PM   #58
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The storyline surrounding her is quite bland and boring.Plus her conversation is very jedi do goody and boring.

I suppose she is ok


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Old 10-19-2008, 07:59 AM   #59
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I never thought she was all that good-looking, and her accent isn't anything special. But she has depth and a believable personality, which is more than you can say for many video game characters. So she's a pretty good character, in my opinion, but not the best in the game.


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The good characters in Kotor 1 are Revan (of course), HK-47 (efficient), Canderous (efficient), T3-M4 (useful). Other else are nothing more than minor characters.


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She is hot.
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Old 10-19-2008, 06:07 PM   #62
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To be fair, she was being interrogated and tortured by the Dark Lord of the Sith.

So do you actually like the game or not?

Regards the hotter thing - Visas has no eyes.

Yeahh, she might say 'fine fine I'll go DS' or whatever, but someone who was intent on the LS, wouldn't be able to just do that. Yeah, she said she doubted herself sometime, but how many times have you doubted yourself and NOT gone out murdering people?



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Meh, she is very low on my list of good characters. An arogant insecure doll who lectures I could like. An arogant insecure doll who lectures/prattles while dropping not-so-subtle hints about her eventual "fall", then turns into a power hungry girl toy when she finaly does, not so much.
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Old 11-02-2008, 05:43 PM   #64
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Mira, not Mara.
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The good characters in Kotor 1 are Revan (of course), HK-47 (efficient), Canderous (efficient), T3-M4 (useful). Other else are nothing more than minor characters.
Funny. I rotate characters quite a bit, depending on the planet and situation. Mission can be just as useful as T3 skill-wise. Her sneak attack and stealth capabilities really help in places like the Manaan Sith base.

Carth? Never weigh him down with anything heavier than Echani armor, amp up his dex, and give him the best pistols you can get. Canderous gets the opposite tack - heavy armor, that planet-smasher he has fully upgraded, and Grenadier script. That way, you send the Mandalorian against the tanks like assault droids while Carth shoots up the lesser foes in the way. Alternately, hand Carth some blades (this works excellently on the Leviathan bridge). HK-47 with a good rifle and full upgrades splits the difference.

The Jedi party members? Juhani is excellent. The combination of Force Jump, solid hit points, and saber skill works very well where there's a lot of enemies. In addition, her stealth skill makes her a natural scout. Jolee's not really the best fighter, but he is a lot of fun. Bastila, like HK-47, is a good middle-of-the-road fighter for things like Sith bases or modded levels.

But that's fighting, and I tend not to play it for that. I'm looking for a story. so, Bastila goes with me on the bottom half of Dantooine, most of Tatooine, and parts of Manaan. Dantooine, as it's her home turf, Tatooine, as we have her parents' quest to work with, and Manaan, as she's "officially" in charge of the mission and we're showing the flag.


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Old 11-24-2008, 12:01 AM   #67
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I don't like her at first cause she is so full of herself, but as the game goes on i start to like her a bit more, after she's captured by malak and you face her on the starforge, then i like her alot more
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Old 11-24-2008, 06:47 AM   #68
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Bastilla was an alright character, with a unique ability, her fall to the darkside made sense but it could have been better. I wish Bioware was allowed to give Bastilla the name they wanted to in Vima Sunrider, it would have connected the game to the Tales of the Jedi comics but unfortunately it outside circumstances didn't allow it to happen.
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Well, I suppose it's time for me to state my opinion, since I made this thread...

I can't stand Bastilla! She annoys the stew outta me! DIE, JEDI DOG!!!!! >

Okay, I've stated my opinion.


Chapter 12 of A Soul Adrift is out.

Short stories:
T'katlu: On the planet Felucia, a young apprentice of the Dark Side thinks back to the beginning of her training as she lies in wait for her prey...

All the Time: After four years in the Unknown Regions, the Exile returns to the known galaxy to visit an old enemy.

Broken: A master of the Dark Side finds himself about to lose the one thing he cares about--and he will do anything to stop her from endangering herself.
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Old 11-26-2008, 07:19 PM   #71
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Well, I suppose it's time for me to state my opinion, since I made this thread...

I can't stand Bastilla! She annoys the stew outta me! DIE, JEDI DOG!!!!! >

Okay, I've stated my opinion.
What about her anoyed you?
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First off, I played fem Revan first, so there was no romance. When I got to Bastilla, I was expecting her to say something like, "Thank you for rescuing me. I hope you didn't get hurt too badly. Do you have an idea how to get off this planet?" Instead I got, "Well, I didn't get rescued by you, I rescued you, you stupid little girl! Now I'm in charge, and you shut up and listen to me because I'm technically an authority figure!"

'Scuse me?

For the rest of the game, she tormented me saying, "Don't fall to the Dark Side, the Dark Side if evil." "You're straying too close to the Dark Side!"

Never mind that I was so flamin' Light Side I gagged every time I opened my character screen to level...

Then, of course, she falls to the Dark Side! So now, I gotta rescue her rear from the Dark Side if I want the Republic to win, even though her gut is close enough to stab...it was pure agony turning her back to the Light Side!!!!!!

On top of that, I was disappointed about how she looked. She looks just gorgeous on the box, but in the game, I personally think she's kinda...well...chunky? Her face is...okay...but her frame is too heavy.

And her voice annoyed me.


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Chapter 12 of A Soul Adrift is out.

Short stories:
T'katlu: On the planet Felucia, a young apprentice of the Dark Side thinks back to the beginning of her training as she lies in wait for her prey...

All the Time: After four years in the Unknown Regions, the Exile returns to the known galaxy to visit an old enemy.

Broken: A master of the Dark Side finds himself about to lose the one thing he cares about--and he will do anything to stop her from endangering herself.
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^lol!
that you expected her to be nice but got a snoot was probably exactly the intended dynamic the writers wanted imo.
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On top of that, I was disappointed about how she looked. She looks just gorgeous on the box, but in the game, I personally think she's kinda...well...chunky? Her face is...okay...but her frame is too heavy.
lol. the box and the game bastila look completely different. in fact, all the other illustrations of bastila are different from each other as well. heck all they need is a youngish woman with black hair and that bodysuit. it annoys me that they cant keep it similar.
frame? afaik her body is just the same model used for all the medium females...
or are you meaning something else...s -?
fyi im not angry or anything. shes a character i like... but im not having giant hearts in stead of eyes and a slack tongue about it



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it is not a cry of joy.
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First off, I played fem Revan first, so there was no romance. When I got to Bastilla, I was expecting her to say something like, "Thank you for rescuing me. I hope you didn't get hurt too badly. Do you have an idea how to get off this planet?" Instead I got, "Well, I didn't get rescued by you, I rescued you, you stupid little girl! Now I'm in charge, and you shut up and listen to me because I'm technically an authority figure!"

'Scuse me?

For the rest of the game, she tormented me saying, "Don't fall to the Dark Side, the Dark Side if evil." "You're straying too close to the Dark Side!"

Never mind that I was so flamin' Light Side I gagged every time I opened my character screen to level...

Then, of course, she falls to the Dark Side! So now, I gotta rescue her rear from the Dark Side if I want the Republic to win, even though her gut is close enough to stab...it was pure agony turning her back to the Light Side!!!!!!

On top of that, I was disappointed about how she looked. She looks just gorgeous on the box, but in the game, I personally think she's kinda...well...chunky? Her face is...okay...but her frame is too heavy.

And her voice annoyed me.


Hey, you asked!

Bastila may have been annoting at first...but as Jolee Bindo once said: Oh...and that body. Bastila is hot...Hot...HOT! I thought her voice was beautiful at first...but then i found that i couldn't find the off button for her voice and i grew to hate it
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^lol!
that you expected her to be nice but got a snoot was probably exactly the intended dynamic the writers wanted imo.
(sigh) You're probably right.

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lol. the box and the game bastila look completely different. in fact, all the other illustrations of bastila are different from each other as well. heck all they need is a youngish woman with black hair and that bodysuit. it annoys me that they cant keep it similar.
Glad I'm not the only one.

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frame? afaik her body is just the same model used for all the medium females...
Hmm. I dunno, maybe it's the body suit. Actually, now that i think about it, she looks pretty nice in a maroon Jedi Robe I got in a mod...

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or are you meaning something else...s -?
I'm not quite sure what you mean, but I'm pretty sure I don't mean anything except that I think she looks too curvaceous in her bodysuit.

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fyi im not angry or anything. shes a character i like... but im not having giant hearts in stead of eyes and a slack tongue about it
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...as Jolee Bindo once said: Oh...and that body. Bastila is hot...Hot...HOT!
He said what?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


Chapter 12 of A Soul Adrift is out.

Short stories:
T'katlu: On the planet Felucia, a young apprentice of the Dark Side thinks back to the beginning of her training as she lies in wait for her prey...

All the Time: After four years in the Unknown Regions, the Exile returns to the known galaxy to visit an old enemy.

Broken: A master of the Dark Side finds himself about to lose the one thing he cares about--and he will do anything to stop her from endangering herself.
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Jolee said oh...and that body when speaking of his wife. I think Bastila is Hot!..sorry for the confusion there....

I put a strange image in your head didn't I?
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Jolee said oh...and that body when speaking of his wife. I think Bastila is Hot!..sorry for the confusion there....
I never talk to Jolee long enough to get to his wife, lol.

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I put a strange image in your head didn't I?
Yes...yes you did...Jolee hittin' on Bastilla...


Chapter 12 of A Soul Adrift is out.

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T'katlu: On the planet Felucia, a young apprentice of the Dark Side thinks back to the beginning of her training as she lies in wait for her prey...

All the Time: After four years in the Unknown Regions, the Exile returns to the known galaxy to visit an old enemy.

Broken: A master of the Dark Side finds himself about to lose the one thing he cares about--and he will do anything to stop her from endangering herself.
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Well...if it makes you feel better...there IS a mod that lets a Bastila/Jolee romance happen...
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Chapter 12 of A Soul Adrift is out.

Short stories:
T'katlu: On the planet Felucia, a young apprentice of the Dark Side thinks back to the beginning of her training as she lies in wait for her prey...

All the Time: After four years in the Unknown Regions, the Exile returns to the known galaxy to visit an old enemy.

Broken: A master of the Dark Side finds himself about to lose the one thing he cares about--and he will do anything to stop her from endangering herself.
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