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Old 10-18-2008, 11:12 AM   #121
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I'm fine with an MMO, as long the price per month/year is affordable.
Anything around, say, nothing, is fine with me!


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Old 10-18-2008, 11:53 AM   #122
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All we can do is wait and see. I mean It can end up being something else and not Kotor related at all. Let's see if its a SRPG or a MMORPG. After all , our prayers will be answered this Monday Tuesday (Hopefully)
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Old 10-18-2008, 02:21 PM   #123
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I'm fine with an MMO, as long the price per month/year is affordable.
To be honest, the problem isn't really the monthly fees...


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Old 10-18-2008, 02:40 PM   #124
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I beleive a MMO would probably be more succesful than a RPG. But it won't be storydriven, you'd just end up farming bosses to continue the cliffhanger. But there are more people who'd buy an MMO just because its an MMO. Plus it has name recogniston with Star Wars and KOTOR. It could be terrible and still do well. Either way even if its a good MMO it won't continue the story well.
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Old 10-18-2008, 02:57 PM   #125
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Old 10-18-2008, 04:33 PM   #126
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To be honest, the problem isn't really the monthly fees...


Could you please clarify?


Chapter 12 of A Soul Adrift is out.

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T'katlu: On the planet Felucia, a young apprentice of the Dark Side thinks back to the beginning of her training as she lies in wait for her prey...

All the Time: After four years in the Unknown Regions, the Exile returns to the known galaxy to visit an old enemy.

Broken: A master of the Dark Side finds himself about to lose the one thing he cares about--and he will do anything to stop her from endangering herself.
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Old 10-18-2008, 06:58 PM   #127
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The content would be the problem. The experience KotOR offers is somewhat unique, and on my view impossible to be reproduced to a MMO. How about the choices, the dialogs? A plot and, for God's sake, an ending? The characters? The feeling that the galaxy really relies on you and not on "Joe_Doe4evar" to save the day?


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Old 10-18-2008, 07:51 PM   #128
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Someone over on BioWare's forums found http://swtor.bioware.com/

It's a blank page now but likely won't be come Tuesday evening/Wednesday morning.


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Old 10-18-2008, 09:53 PM   #129
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I hope that it is more like Kotor 1 than 2...............


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Old 10-18-2008, 10:03 PM   #130
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Well I guess it's possible then that Obsidian Entertainment is working on K3, since Bioware is doing "The Old Republic".
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:08 PM   #131
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I hope that it is more like Kotor 1 than 2...............
I hope its better than both of them put together!


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Old 10-18-2008, 10:38 PM   #132
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I hope its better than both of them put together!
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:57 PM   #133
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Yep, something superior to the two would be great, but failing that, I agree that KotOR would be a better model than TSL, given that it had an actual plot twist, and an ending...


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Old 10-18-2008, 11:13 PM   #134
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That would be rather hard to accomplish though, seeing how great of a game KotOR was.

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Old 10-18-2008, 11:23 PM   #135
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I personally think that the original KOTOR is a lot more boring than the second one, at least after seeing the plot twist once. In the second one, there are a ton of powers to try out, hundreds of lightsaber upgrade options, TONS of dialog options (well, except for Bao-Dur and Disciple ) and, IMO, a much more interesting storyline. I'm still trying to sort out the true stuff Kreia said (however sparsely placed it may be) and the baloney.


Chapter 12 of A Soul Adrift is out.

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T'katlu: On the planet Felucia, a young apprentice of the Dark Side thinks back to the beginning of her training as she lies in wait for her prey...

All the Time: After four years in the Unknown Regions, the Exile returns to the known galaxy to visit an old enemy.

Broken: A master of the Dark Side finds himself about to lose the one thing he cares about--and he will do anything to stop her from endangering herself.
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Old 10-18-2008, 11:52 PM   #136
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The only thing that confuses me is the idea that TSL has no ending, yet K1 supposedly does.


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Old 10-19-2008, 02:15 AM   #137
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I prefer the first installment as it makes you feel as if you are fighting a war instead of being on a search for truth


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Old 10-19-2008, 03:31 AM   #138
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^ plus its heaps more interactive than the 2nd one in every sense IMO

The idea of a KoTOR MMO just wouldn't be KoTOR at all. It has a certain unique experience that I know the MMO prject will never be able to duplicate. If there is anyone to blame for this; it should be EA for coming up with such an incompetent, lazy idea.
(lol I'm sorry. An overeacting fan here...)
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Old 10-19-2008, 04:16 AM   #139
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Old 10-19-2008, 08:56 AM   #140
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Something just came up in my mind (doesn't happen very often, blame alcohol).

I wasn't an active member at the time K2 was released.
But I do remember Lucasarts released a trailer. One trailer only. Including the date the game was to be released.
Does anybody know how many months were between them?

Because, I have a certain feeling the 21th will give us a trailer. Because artwork won't do. "The wait is over." We aren't waiting for a boring announcement.

I know this has been in development since 2007, but does anybody know how much time was between the trailer-release of K2? We might have a possible release date for k3 too then.

PS: Since Christmas is impossible. Maybe a Q3 2009 release?

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Old 10-19-2008, 09:00 AM   #141
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In the second one, there are a ton of powers to try out, hundreds of lightsaber upgrade options, TONS of dialog options (well, except for Bao-Dur and Disciple )
Content-wise and graphically, I will concede that TSL was (marginally ) superior, but IMO the storyline of KotOR was better.

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I'm still trying to sort out the true stuff Kreia said (however sparsely placed it may be) and the baloney.
Good luck with that! I gave up trying the third or fourth time round!

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The only thing that confuses me is the idea that TSL has no ending, yet K1 supposedly does.
Maybe it's just that the KotOR endings are more interesting, more dramatic - especially considering it was a standalone - while TSL was alway supposed to be part of a series (True Sith bit). TSL's ending was a little bit of a letdown, IMO, as the two were so similar no matter what, contrasted to KotOR.


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Old 10-19-2008, 11:16 AM   #142
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I'm not a MMORPG fan in any means. I just want this to be over. I want to hear Knights of the Old Republic this or that. I wish for a single player game; however, I'm not going to be surprised by a multiplayer one.
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Old 10-19-2008, 12:48 PM   #143
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they should either do an mmo and an rpg or an rpg with a multiplayer mode so u can do missions with ur friends
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Old 10-19-2008, 01:29 PM   #144
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I personally think that the original KOTOR is a lot more boring than the second one, at least after seeing the plot twist once.
For me it's incredibly hard to see KotOR as boring. Even the second game... well, except for Nar Shaddaa and it's waves of uninteresting NPCs.

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In the second one, there are a ton of powers to try out, hundreds of lightsaber upgrade options
Naturally. If it didn't, it would be an expansion pack, not a sequel.

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TONS of dialog options (well, except for Bao-Dur and Disciple
And Visas, and Handmaiden, and Mira, and HK, and Hanharr, and...

It goes without mention that Atton's back story ends with an eye blink.


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Old 10-19-2008, 03:44 PM   #145
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I can get Visas, Handmaiden, Mira, and HK to talk with me for a long time. Hanharr--he just goes in a circle. The thing that redeems Atton out of the 'needs to be thrown in the garbage' oblivion is that his backstory was interesting.

And he'd play pazaak with me in the middle of a battle...y'know, let my Force points recharge...

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Chapter 12 of A Soul Adrift is out.

Short stories:
T'katlu: On the planet Felucia, a young apprentice of the Dark Side thinks back to the beginning of her training as she lies in wait for her prey...

All the Time: After four years in the Unknown Regions, the Exile returns to the known galaxy to visit an old enemy.

Broken: A master of the Dark Side finds himself about to lose the one thing he cares about--and he will do anything to stop her from endangering herself.
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Old 10-20-2008, 02:48 AM   #146
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As far as I'm concerned, this isn't a bash KotOR II thread.

I'll be glad when this announcement has finally been said. All this pointless banter about how empty K2 is, and how fulfilling K1 was.

In terms of a KotOR MMO, well, if the announcement turns out to be the MMO, I'll laugh and say I told you all so. If the announcement brings other news, I'll, errrm, calmly walk on, lol.

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Old 10-20-2008, 02:54 AM   #147
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i have a bad(mmo) feeling about this.

sadly,the wait is gonna continue.

i hope it turns out to be a "mass effect kotor",but i don't really believe that's gonna happen,i'll do leaps of joy if it does.
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Old 10-20-2008, 03:00 AM   #148
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i hope it turns out to be a "mass effect kotor",but i don't really believe that's gonna happen,i'll do leaps of joy if it does.
You mean a good RPG or one that lets you have sex with a hot blue alien?

Still, I'd be OK with an MMO if it's well done, but I think it'll really take away a lot of what was great about the other Kotor games, ie: some semblance of an actual story.


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You mean a good RPG or one that lets you have sex with a hot blue alien?
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Still, I'd be OK with an MMO if it's well done, but I think it'll really take away a lot of what was great about the other Kotor games, ie: some semblance of an actual story.
It would be the one thing that is severely lacking in a good percentage of the MMO's out there. I would really like to see an MMO that has a very good and long lasting story. It would also be nice if you didn't have to spend days grinding womprats to gain a level haha...
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You mean a good RPG or one that lets you have sex with a hot blue alien?

Still, I'd be OK with an MMO if it's well done, but I think it'll really take away a lot of what was great about the other Kotor games, ie: some semblance of an actual story.
that depends,mission is gonna be in it or not?
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Old 10-20-2008, 04:19 AM   #151
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The announcement's tomorrow, right?


Chapter 12 of A Soul Adrift is out.

Short stories:
T'katlu: On the planet Felucia, a young apprentice of the Dark Side thinks back to the beginning of her training as she lies in wait for her prey...

All the Time: After four years in the Unknown Regions, the Exile returns to the known galaxy to visit an old enemy.

Broken: A master of the Dark Side finds himself about to lose the one thing he cares about--and he will do anything to stop her from endangering herself.
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Old 10-20-2008, 04:44 AM   #152
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The announcement's tomorrow, right?
If by tomorrow you mean Tuesday, then yes. October 21st.

Might be a little later in the day, but the gaming sites should have some stuff up pretty quickly considering the magnitude of the "Secret" Bioware has been holding from us.

Although, I've gotta say, I wouldn't be surprised at all if this turned out to be KOTOR3. Now, I've got 0% hope that it is K3 (As I gave up on a K3 upon finishing TSL the first time), but all this secrecy and withholding of information almost makes it out to be the opposite of what we expect.

But, in the end, its an idea that is pretty pointless to grab onto. We know its Star Wars related. We already know the Engine that it is using is an MMO engine. We know that EA and some disgruntled Bioware employees have let it slip.

The question that is on my mind and will be on your minds tomorrow is:

Will it be any good?
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Old 10-20-2008, 04:52 AM   #153
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I think the question is: Whatever it is.. when will it be done and out? Knights 3 or a Star Wars MMORPG game
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'IF' it's an MMO (All Evidence points there) and it makes a whole new game of it using the great styles, vehicles, planets, and feel, established and continued by the great K1+K2... AWESOME!..
If they try to complete the trilogy with, it ie. finish Revan/Exile's Story, re-hash the Mando wars and step on the comics then NO!!

Like Galaxies, when you fit it into too tight of a box or steer too near to established time lines you cant really make your own game of it without coming across a gang of crazed canon-whores
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I hope they end the trilogy with it...

A single player component with an MMO multiplayer perhaps?
Because there is no canon end to Revan's and Exile's story. I think the keepers of canon would like an end of some sort.

Anyways, I can't help but feel this is Kotor comic-related....call me stupid, but that dark-ish statue in a secret room...the way the comics are heading, with all the dark side, the lack unveiling the next story arc (they only show an in-between arc in which a buiseness deal goes wrong).
I hope for some Zayne, Revan and Exile action to finish this as epic as possible.

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Old 10-20-2008, 08:08 AM   #156
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If it turns out to not be Star Wars, it's going to be so hilarious. Maybe it's Monkey Island V?
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Nope. It's gonna be Indiana Jones MMO.
Loom Online? Yeah I can just see thousands of people asking "Are you my mother?"
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:01 AM   #159
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I'd rather have another Monkey Island than another KotOR. (I'd absolutely love a Loom MMO)
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I'm still holding out hope for a KOTOR/Full Throttle Crossover FPS/Adventure Game hybrid.

It'd be called something like this: Star Wars: Full Throttle II - Ripburger's Revenge.


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