List of Ahto Imperial appointments: complaints - Page 3

***Lynk Former*** · 02-17-2009, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamqd

Careful

somone might consider to be an in-joke and declare the two of us to be in some kind of elitist group.

**Astor** · 02-17-2009, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk Former

Careful

somone might consider to be an in-joke and declare the two of us to be in some kind of elitist group.

Elitists! Burn them! They're trying to bring down LF with their in-jokes!

3 pages... talk about making mountains....

adamqd · 02-17-2009, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk Former

Careful

somone might consider to be an in-joke and declare the two of us to be in some kind of elitist group.

dont worry, after seeing some of my other posts they'd realize I aint got the skills to roll with you cats

***Lynk Former*** · 02-17-2009, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamqd

dont worry, after seeing some of my other posts they'd realize I aint got the skills to roll with you cats

Just so I know, which group am I apparently a part of?

Det. Bart Lasiter · 02-17-2009, 07:48 AM

the elites

**Astor** · 02-17-2009, 07:53 AM

We need some sort of table that we check on before posting. Don't want to offend the wrong people, after all.

Seriously, though. Could someone with grievances actually clearly spell out what the problem is? Because i'm still not seeing it. Or has silly season started early this year?

adamqd · 02-17-2009, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk Former

Just so I know, which group am I apparently a part of?

I have no Idea, I'm just along for the ride lol

***Lynk Former*** · 02-17-2009, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmac7142

the elites

WHICH elites? There are so many of them!

adamqd · 02-17-2009, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk Former

WHICH elites? There are so many of them!

The cool ones?

Det. Bart Lasiter · 02-17-2009, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk Former

WHICH elites? There are so many of them!

THE elites

***Lynk Former*** · 02-17-2009, 08:12 AM

I'm guessing this group is so damn elite that I don't even know who the other members are?

**Astor** · 02-17-2009, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk Former

I'm guessing this group is so damn elite that I don't even know who the other members are?

I'm in the same boat, apparently. I didn't know I even was a member of any 'elites' until yesterday...

adamqd · 02-17-2009, 08:19 AM

All men are created equal, But only the greatest of us can belong to the elites.

Gives Astor and Lynk a High5! (Then goes back to kneeling)

***Lynk Former*** · 02-17-2009, 08:21 AM

@ adamqd: I take it you're part of one of these elite groups?

adamqd · 02-17-2009, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk Former

@ adamqd: I take it you're part of one of these elite groups?

No way, this is the first time I've posted in a thread where people actually reply to me haha

I'm Just trying to make light of it.

***Lynk Former*** · 02-17-2009, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamqd

No way, this is the first time I've posted in a thread where people actually reply to me haha

I'm Just trying to make light of it.

To be honest, I haven't really seen you around until this thread lol.

**Astor** · 02-17-2009, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk Former

To be honest, I haven't really seen you around until this thread lol.

It's almost a counter to the threads argument that elitism is alienating people...

adamqd · 02-17-2009, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk Former

To be honest, I haven't really seen you around until this thread lol.

we walk different paths my friend...

***Lynk Former*** · 02-17-2009, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamqd

we walk different paths my friend...

Oh, I don't walk... I strut!

adamqd · 02-17-2009, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk Former

Oh, I don't walk... I strut!

well, I dont walk, I mince... but that's a different story

**Astor** · 02-17-2009, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamqd

well, I dont walk, I mince... but that's a different story

I wondered what the 'q' meant...

Yar-El · 02-17-2009, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk Former

We have powerful friends XD

And here they are -

**Prime** · 02-17-2009, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Lion54

Prime, you have no clique. You are the envy of every man and the dream of every woman, and some men, too.

Clearly.

Imagine if, in fact, I was the one who set up all these cliques and was controlling them to make outsiders bitter for my own amusement...

But that is too crazy to be true.

Q · 02-17-2009, 09:47 AM

I find it rather interesting that the vast majority of the people who have and are now spamming this thread with their scorn aren't even the ones who normally exhibit the behavior that I'm griping about.

You're doing an excellent job of providing a convenient smoke-screen for those who do to hide behind, though.

**Astor** · 02-17-2009, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qliveur

I find it rather interesting that the vast majority of the people who have and are now spamming this thread with their scorn aren't even the ones who normally exhibit the behavior that I'm bitching about.

You're doing an excellent job of providing a convenient smoke-screen for those who do to hide behind, though.

I'm still not even sure what behaviour you're referring to.

Could you possibly elaborate? Maybe then I'll understand what the problem is.

EDIT: Because, after all, if i'm one of the 'accused', and having accusations levelled at me, i'd like know exactly i'm accused of, and why.

Q · 02-17-2009, 10:11 AM

No, Astor, I'm not accusing you of anything.

I already explained it in post #54 on the previous page.

It's not the elitism that bothers me, really. That's just human nature. Immature human nature, to be sure, but still just human nature and as such totally understandable.

It's the official sanction that it receives from certain members (by no means a majority) of the staff and the deletion of any and all evidence pertaining to said sanction that I'm talking about.

I freely recognize that most of the people here are not part of the problem, which is why I'm still here. Otherwise I wouldn't be, trust me.

***Lynk Former*** · 02-17-2009, 10:31 AM

@ Qliveur:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk Former

Please tell us all you know in dot point form. You don't need proof, but if you really want to expose what is apparently the cancer of LFN... then please. Take the first step and list it clearly that even a monkey in a bath tub playing with a rubber ducky can understand in your next post.

You never replied to me. I gave you an opportunity to expose the cancer within LFN and even said you didn't need any proof.

I want specifics.

Q · 02-17-2009, 10:33 AM

I did reply to you, if not directly. See post #54.

And, no, I don't think that you're part of the problem, either.

Yar-El · 02-17-2009, 10:35 AM

Lets get back to reality. Do you know how easy it is to deal with this stuff?

*Click - Power Off*

You just have to click the off button, and everything will go away nice and shiny.

Is there a clique of moderators and visitors? Sure there is. Starting post of the original thread comes off like the whose who of Lucasforums.com. It doesn't surprise me that there is one; however, I kind of wish they didn't stick up for each other. Average visitors come in and complain about some of them, and the moderators jump to their friend's defence. Can anyone on the outside do anything about it? Not directly. I know of three people on that list who should have been banned, and I know who comes to their defence on a daily basis. I will be witness in saying I have seen some balanced justice at times; however, I have never seen the rules be tightened to the equivalency of absolute.

Proof that being a veteran doesn't mean you get a free pass: Achilles

*Click - Power Off*

Q · 02-17-2009, 10:44 AM

I would just like everyone to know that the irony of the above post is not lost on me.

And Achilles was banned because he decided to use a sledgehammer in dealing with this very issue. The posts concerning that occurence were, of course, conveniently deleted as well.

Det. Bart Lasiter · 02-17-2009, 10:47 AM

when I battle chimps I usually have a line of longbowmen screened by halberdiers, once the chimps break I ride them down with light cavalry. It always eventually comes down to a duel with the chimp's bestial leader however, but since they can only use simple tools I easily dispatch him with my hanzo steel

Q · 02-17-2009, 10:51 AM

Get thee behind me, spambot.

**Astor** · 02-17-2009, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yar-El

I know of three people on that list who should have been banned, and I know who comes to their defence on a daily basis. I will be witness in saying I have seen some balanced justice at times; however, I have never seen the rules be tightened to the equivalency of absolute.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qliveur

And Achilles was banned because he decided to use a sledgehammer in dealing with this very issue. The posts concerning that occurence were, of course, conveniently deleted as well.

Then perhaps now might be the appropriate time for these issues to be addressed, seeing as things appear to be coming to a head.

Q · 02-17-2009, 10:57 AM

I'm trying, and in the most civilized manner that I can manage.

Yar-El · 02-17-2009, 10:57 AM

The only thing visitors can do is report posts, or they can send a private message to a moderator or admin. Its out of our hands at that point. What can you do? You trust those in charge to make honest choices. Are they supporting their friend, or are they supporting the wellbeing of the forums? I have seen some justice served out; thus, I can't complain about too much of an imbalance. I take the word of the moderator or admin who is dealing with the issue. They say everything is fine, I have to believe they are being truthfull.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astor Kaine

Then perhaps now might be the appropriate time for these issues to be addressed, seeing as things appear to be coming to a head.

I don't think there is an absolute answer outside of what I mentioned. You could try talking at legnth with a moderator.

***Lynk Former*** · 02-17-2009, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qliveur

I did reply to you, if not directly. See post #54.

Bleah *reads*

I occasionally get strange PM's from certain members, some of who wish they had never sent them despite me not caring the slightest. At most I'll think it's strange in a funny way and dismiss it.

I've had plenty of my posts deleted too and I'm a Supermod

lol.

I think in that badge thread the deleted posts go... Sabretooth, jmac7142, Scar Da Kookee, Lynk Former, Da_man, Yar-El, Rogue Nine, Scar Da Kookee, jmac7142 and then finally you, Qliveur.

As for the jester badge itself, I do agree that the bar is set too high for that badge, I also agree that deleting posts isn't very good and argued that point a long time ago to a point where I got so upset that I left LFN for over a year.

If you really don't like DI that much you can always put him on your ignore list with whoever else you feel you don't want to have to deal with. I can understand being sick and tired of other peoples asshattery, I really can.

I think what it comes down to is that there are so many people around in here within and outside of the staff who have a view of how this place should be run. I argue and debate with other staff all the time but just because I don't agree with some of their methods doesn't exactly make them elitists or immature.

...on the subject of immaturity, I'm guilty as charged... and I can safely say that I can be even more immature than any of the suspect elitists too.

Quote:

Actually, it is your assuption based on incomplete information that is false...

Seems like a lot of people here have incomplete information by the looks of it...

Quote:

And, no, I don't think that you're part of the problem, either.

Now I wish I was, it's more interesting being the troublemaker

Yar-El · 02-17-2009, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk Former

I think in that badge thread the deleted posts go... Sabretooth, jmac7142, Scar Da Kookee, Lynk Former, Da_man, Yar-El, Rogue Nine, Scar Da Kookee, jmac7142 and then finally you, Qliveur.

I walked away from the thread at that point. I took the deletion as your post was not good enough. I walked away with thinking my posts were not welcomed in there; thus, I glossed over Jae's reasoning behind the deletion. Why bother nominating anyone if it doesn't mater?

***Rogue Nine*** · 02-17-2009, 11:12 AM

Sorry, it had to be done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yar-El

I know of three people on that list who should have been banned,

lol i know of someone here who should have been banned

Yar-El · 02-17-2009, 11:13 AM

I keep saying this to everyone. Kick people around, large amounts of people walk away, and you no longer have any forums. This goes for moderators, admins, myself, and other forumites.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogue Nine

lol i know of someone here who should have been banned

Praise from Ceaser.

**Astor** · 02-17-2009, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yar-El

I walked away from the thread at that point. I took the deletion as your post was not good enough. I walked away with thinking my posts were not welcomed in there; thus, I glossed over Jae's reasoning behind the deletion. Why bother nominating anyone if it doesn't mater?

So you assumed that your posts weren't welcome. It's entirely possible your recommendation was rejected, and removed to keep the thread clear.