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Old 05-21-2009, 01:52 PM   #81
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Just like we know the Bible is fiction right? So Greek mythology, the Qur'an, every other book out there that can somehow be twisted into a religion is fiction. But when it comes to the Bible, "no, there is a possibility!" I think I said it before, what makes the Bible a special case?

Do we though? The problem w/using something like Potter as a comparison is that we know who the author is and that she doesn't claim anything extraordinary about the books, other than perhaps giving their audience an adventure. The Bible, whatever its faults, doesn't fall into that category. Only pointing out that you were making an apples/oranges comparison. If the Bible were as self-evidently fictional as you claim, Christianity would likely have folded long ago and probably have been replaced by something else. Not to mention Judaism. As I already asked, why are you so worked up over it? Especially since people in modern times (at least in the western countries) seem to be moving farther away from theism anyway.


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Old 05-21-2009, 05:06 PM   #82
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I highly doubt you guys are intelligent enough to change yours, therefore this topic and this forums is useless.
Hmm, this isn't rude at all.

Just because you bit off a little more than you can chew whilst having this debate doesn't mean that anyone is less intelligent or that this is "useless".

I assure you, I have found use for it.

Well, bye bye then. It's too bad you're mad about losing one little logical skirmish (per se) especially considering it was seemingly not over yet.

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Old 05-21-2009, 05:25 PM   #83
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My beliefs will never change, and I highly doubt you guys are intelligent enough to change yours
I'm struggling to understand the logic here.

Inability to change beliefs is indicative of a lack of intelligence...
But your beliefs will never change...
and your tone suggests that you believe that you are of superior intelligence.

Help me out here
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Old 05-21-2009, 06:46 PM   #84
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Do we though? The problem w/using something like Potter as a comparison is that we know who the author is and that she doesn't claim anything extraordinary about the books, other than perhaps giving their audience an adventure. The Bible, whatever its faults, doesn't fall into that category. Only pointing out that you were making an apples/oranges comparison. If the Bible were as self-evidently fictional as you claim, Christianity would likely have folded long ago and probably have been replaced by something else. Not to mention Judaism. As I already asked, why are you so worked up over it? Especially since people in modern times (at least in the western countries) seem to be moving farther away from theism anyway.
Alright barring Potter, look at Greek mythology or the mythology of other religions. Mythology is created in order to benefit the maker, and clearly, people benefit from the Bible, just like the creators of some Greek myths. Why pick one myth to be the utmost truth and reject the rest? You ask why I'm so worked about it, I thought this was a debate thread, and so I'm trying to engage in it, and I'm glad that many in western nations are moving towards rationality and critical thought (although there is still a ways to go).
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Old 05-21-2009, 07:35 PM   #85
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Ok, it just didn't come across as detachment, hence the "worked up" expression.


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