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Old 07-24-2009, 07:36 PM   #81
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I like the Elaine one too.
The only thing I'd change is the purple-ish background.
It wasn't really clear to me that it was a Wacom colored picture until I focused on that.
Usually it shows, but these look like water colors.


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Old 07-24-2009, 08:11 PM   #82
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Kinda hard to tell from all the pixelation.
well I saw one that somone remade and its less pixely.\

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MI2 Guybrush is the best Guybrush there is, period.
I didnt say hes not the best I acctually agree. I like him and the one from CMI. There my 2 favorite. I am just saying to me he looks like hes in his 30s and that I think he has less charm than the one from TOMI and CMI but I havnt played MI2 yet. I own it but havnt played it so I dont realy know alot about it.


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Old 07-24-2009, 08:18 PM   #83
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well I saw one that somone remade and its less pixely.
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I didnt say hes not the best I acctually agree. I like him and the one from CMI. There my 2 favorite. I am just saying to me he looks like hes in his 30s and that I think he has less charm than the one from TOMI and CMI but I havnt played MI2 yet. I own it but havnt played it so I dont realy know alot about it.
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Offtopic: People, in general, please stop double posting, it's really annoying, just edit your posts.

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Old 07-24-2009, 08:40 PM   #84
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Nice Elaine! I'm ready for LeChuck
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Old 07-24-2009, 09:01 PM   #85
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I like it when the characters look new and different each game has had a new version of the characters why cant fans make their own?


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Old 07-24-2009, 10:35 PM   #86
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How come I've never seen your artwork before SynthGerbil? Shame on you for hiding you talents.
Haha thanks. Well I used to have a few fan art pieces up at the old unofficial Sam and Max page before it imploded ranging from nearly a decade old to only a couple of years ago. Thing is after a while I just started submitting ugly stuff I did in MSPaint for the hell of it and I think it may have annoyed Jake a bit.

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Not sure about the costume, seems a bit gratuitous for my tastes, but very impressive nonetheless.
Yeah it's a fan service thing I guess since she's choking a chicken and all.

And here's Zombie Pirate LeChuck, back from a vacation in Mexico:

Have a good weekend everybody!
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Old 07-24-2009, 11:09 PM   #87
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Hahaha, brilliant.
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Old 07-25-2009, 12:28 AM   #88
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I like Lechuck and Guybrush the best.

Did you draw these or use some fancy photoshop thing?

How long did it take you to make each one?

Pretty aewsome dude.


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Old 07-25-2009, 06:18 AM   #89
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Haha, oh my. He's got Mexican flu!

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Old 07-25-2009, 06:42 AM   #90
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Haha, oh my. He's got Mexican flu!
Strange, I don't see a pig in sight.
Pretty awesome though, love the voodoo pins in the samba balls.
Are you gonna make more of these, SyntheticGerbil?

Does anyone else agree that, when they do make a MI2:SE, this is the art style to go?
(Give or take a few samba balls and pirate bikini's. )


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Old 07-25-2009, 07:44 AM   #91
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Thing is after a while I just started submitting ugly stuff I did in MSPaint for the hell of it and I think it may have annoyed Jake a bit.
Haha, brilliant!


You mean the way the sea stays steady as a rock and the buildings keep washing up and down? Yes I thought that was odd.
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Old 07-25-2009, 07:57 AM   #92
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Haha, no. I'm too busy doing some magic with MI2 backgrounds.
I think I can show it tonight, we'll see.
Arrgh, you've been teasing it for a few days now. Can't wait to see it
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Old 07-25-2009, 07:05 PM   #93
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well I saw one that somone remade and its less pixely.\



I didnt say hes not the best I acctually agree. I like him and the one from CMI. There my 2 favorite. I am just saying to me he looks like hes in his 30s and that I think he has less charm than the one from TOMI and CMI but I havnt played MI2 yet. I own it but havnt played it so I dont realy know alot about it.
Well done!


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Old 07-25-2009, 07:37 PM   #94
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Strange, I don't see a pig in sight.
Pretty awesome though, love the voodoo pins in the samba balls.
Are you gonna make more of these, SyntheticGerbil?
Thank you! I don't know if I may make more soon as I'm ramping up a lot of porfolio work to get a job at another company in the oncoming months. I think I just wanted to do some Monkey Island 2 stuff, but now that you mention it, maybe I'll try in the future to make some more illustrative stuff of some scenes. Probably won't be anywhere near as good as Paco Vink's and Dan Lee's amazing work, but worth a shot.

I may try to be a bit more faithful to the characters though.
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Old 07-25-2009, 07:39 PM   #95
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Lol! A quality rendition of LeChuck.


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Old 07-25-2009, 08:13 PM   #96
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Thank you! I don't know if I may make more soon as I'm ramping up a lot of porfolio work to get a job at another company in the oncoming months. I think I just wanted to do some Monkey Island 2 stuff, but now that you mention it, maybe I'll try in the future to make some more illustrative stuff of some scenes. Probably won't be anywhere near as good as Paco Vink's and Dan Lee's amazing work, but worth a shot.

I may try to be a bit more faithful to the characters though.
I don't think you have to be more faithful to the characters.
This is your artwork. Just redoing the characters doesn't give it the unique charm it has now.
I like this stuff because they're your take on the game.
I'd like to see more like these.

I doodled a quick (half) LeChuck myself today.
Came out pretty nice I think.


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Old 07-25-2009, 08:17 PM   #97
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I doodled a quick (half) LeChuck myself today.
Came out pretty nice I think.
Haha, cool, got a scan by any chance?

Also, Mr. Guy.brush, can I ask what MI2 background you are painting or will it be a surprise?
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Old 07-25-2009, 08:23 PM   #98
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It's just a small doodle on an envelope.
I'll post something when I worked on it more than 5 minutes.


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Old 07-26-2009, 05:59 PM   #99
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This looks great. Hope they choose something like this to portrait Guybrush in MI2:SE, if it's ever going to happen.
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Old 07-27-2009, 10:38 AM   #100
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It's just a small doodle on an envelope.
I'll post something when I worked on it more than 5 minutes.
Haha, sure thing!
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Old 07-27-2009, 11:39 AM   #101
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And without further ado, I'd like to introduce you to 4 days of my inner child coming to life:

MONKEY 2 - Special 'Uber' Edition Art

As you all know the backgrounds for MI2 are all handcrafted and are somewhat more detailed (and beautiful!) than the ones in the first MONKEY ISLAND.
It would be a real shame if they tried to just draw over them to increase resolution. Enhancing the original concept pieces should be priority number one and for this purpose I experimented with a rather uncommon "uber" technique (at least uncommon for games).

Some years ago, during my studies of visual effects and art direction at an undisclosed location somewhere deep in the Caribbean, I learned about one of the most secret vfx voodoo techniques called "camera mapping". Also known as "camera projection", it was often times a studio's well guarded treasure - cause really, it's pretty neat - who would want their competitor to have or know something like that?

The technique is normally used to produce 2,5D mattepaintings out of drawn 2D art or photo sources and as a neat bonus can speed up production processes if used right.
Instead of just using the original background as a guideline or template in Photoshop (or as a guideline/imageplane to model something in 3D), the source art is literally projected onto simple 3d geometry that is built with the original "camera's" viewpoint in mind.
For the nerds: There is no need for any UV layout whatsoever, which is one of the reasons it speeds up production. (It can however be used to bake the original art source into a UV texture map for further refinement)

The goal for me was to increase the image fidelity of the original art and create a high-res, 3d-fied version of the background art while staying pretty faithful to the original. I wanted to have the best of both worlds:
Composition, exaggerated shapes and stylized "lighting" and brush strokes from the 2d art and increased moodiness, richer shadows, sparkling stars and water reflections from the 3d.

In further steps I want to take this into a real-time 3d engine (like CRYENGINE2) to explore the scene.
I know LucasArts has a Maya/Photoshop workflow, so everything I applied should be totally doable for an eventual Monkey Island 2 Special Edition or some other game project where a focus on traditional 2D art look is desired.

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You can either watch the video on Youtube or the Quicktime located at my site. Make sure you watch the HD version when using Youtube to really see the difference.
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I used the Captain Dread's ship concept art that was published by LucasArts in 2002 and is available at scummbar.com. (original resolution: 700x524)
I'm too lazy right now to enclose images, feel free to do so.
You might notice some weird UI shenanigans in the video, that's just me playing around with how this could work.

Uber-Interface for MI2: Special Edition explained:
Hovering with the mouse cursor in the lower left corner (or pressing a button) brings up the verbs which function similar to a jog wheel or an Apple app dock. (Mouse wheel might be nice here)
Hovering with the mouse cursor in the lower right corner (or by pressing a button) brings up the inventory bar. Inventory is a horizontal "app dock" with graphic icons. Selected inventory items pop out and grow in size a little (just like Apple app dock Hovering over the left end of the inventory bar starts scrolling the items towards the right and vice versa. It might even be neat and possible to rearrange inventory items in the bar, just like you would in an app dock.

Such an interface might be a little high-tech but should work nicely for SCUMM games. Sadly I'm no Flash vector animator so the only way to show how this could work would be to do a preanimated clip in After Effects or something else - which would be kind of boring. If somebody wants to try this out - feel free to do it!
The Guybrush I used in the screenshot mockup is a modified version of the excellent Paco one posted above.
Oh and if someone wants detailed info on how to do this step by step, I can elaborate on this further - after I have slept

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Old 07-27-2009, 12:12 PM   #102
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I'm about to leave work so I won't elaborate, but **** — that's pretty impressive.


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Old 07-27-2009, 12:44 PM   #103
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That's the second most awesome thing I've ever seen!
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Old 07-27-2009, 12:57 PM   #104
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See, why don't they hire people like Guy.brush?

Very cool, I like the lighting enchancements too. It's nice to have a video as well, it's very informative. Amazing stuff!

Maybe this can be a Mojo link on the main page so that if anyone from LucasArts is reading or watching, they can understand more of what the fans want. Cut down on any mediocrity on later SEs if made.
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Man, I just got finally registered because I had to congratulate you, as this is the most impressive and professional-looking fanmade development I've ever seen.
The results are terrific! It would really be the best chance for a great Special Edition, remaining completely loyal to the original looks but also carrying them to a whole new dimension.

Amazing...
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Wow man, VERY well done.

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Old 07-27-2009, 02:06 PM   #107
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And without further ado, I'd like to introduce you to 4 days of my inner child coming to life:

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Dude thats pretty sweet.

Is it in 3d because there was an image I didnt understand to much. But most of them looked like they were in a like 3d kinda thing or like different camera views.


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Old 07-27-2009, 02:11 PM   #108
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That's amazing... so much better than MI1:SE
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Old 07-27-2009, 02:23 PM   #109
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If this is completed, it will rape everything that LA did with SoMI:SE. This beyond just high-res artwork and shader effects; it's a whole new game, truly deserving of the "Special Edition" moniker.
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If this is completed, it will rape everything that LA did with SoMI:SE. This beyond just high-res artwork and shader effects; it's a whole new game, truly deserving of the "Special Edition" moniker.
Well, while I would love for him to do the whole game like this, how would he complete it? The only people who have access to all of the original drawn/painted backgrounds are people who work at LucasArts. Us lowly fans only have access to a few that have either been put on the internet by LucasArts, Steve Purcell, or scanned from the Rogue Book.

Also according to Steve Purcell, a lot of backgrounds were scanned in various states of finished or unfinished and touched up on an actual computer. So a lot of backgrounds, if us fans were to get a hold of them, might look like really rough marker drawings and would need a lot more touching up. I twould be so interested to see each and every one of them as they originally were and what they were turned into. I would guess a lot of them look really finished before being scanned and that it is just Purcell's humbleness calling most of them "unfinished." That would be a dream!

Do you want to stage a robbery at the LucasArts vaults Guy.brush?

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Well, while I would love for him to do the whole game like this, how would he complete it?
I merely meant it as a hypothetical scenario. It would be wonderful if it was possible, but more of a "what if" sort of thing.
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Ah, gotcha!
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Well is it going to be a real game like a fan made or what? Usually fan made games go dead after about a year of painfull game design thats realy not going anywere. Like the DOTT2 fan made (I officialy consider it dead I havnt got a reply when I emailed them) it was to hard to comunicate across the ocean. Making a game with people across the world must of been hard for them. So they decided that the fan made should only be released in Germany. It makes me mad. Lucasarts is an american company and IF it werent for us they wouldnt of even had that game so They should release it for only america if they are only releasing in one country.


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Guy.brush this is some impressive stuff. So...........
YOU FINISH NAOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Thanks for the kind words Was really fun to do this. As I said it took me approx. 4 days for this piece (besides working on something else of course),
Some backgrounds might be doable in 3 days but how many are there? 100?! And even if I had every one as a concept piece, it would take over a year of work... hehe

Still, it's awesome what you can do with it. Just altering the moonlight and some ambient lighting can turn the piece into a foggy night easily.When the 3d geometry is somewhat right, playing with DOF is very nice too. If I find the time, I'll try to get this into CRYENGINE2. I want to walk over the planks while the awesome Crysis water is below But no promises, my time is very limited right now.

Here are some wallpapers. There are some little errors and blocky polygons in it cause I didn't really touch this up with a fine comb in Photoshop. So a good Photoshop artist could probably push this onto another level. There is still room for improvement :-)
I kind of like the 3rd one, it has a nice miniature look due to the "uber" DOF hehe.

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1080p *Uber* Size :

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Doesn't "Uber" mean "over" in German?
Example: Deutschland Uber Alles=Germany Over All
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Actually it's "über", but since you guys don't have the "umlauts" on your keyboards...

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Its weird because most people assume that Uber means super. Its like saying "That movie was uber-cool!"
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Well, technically it does... "über" means "over" or "overly", but also "above". So "above cool" is valid. But enough German lessons for now

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There was a Dr. Uberman in FOA or was it Oberman? Ah don't remember
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