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Old 03-31-2012, 01:37 AM   #1481
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:40 AM   #1482
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I'm not really taking this serious, it is more lol to me.

5 reasons Mass Effect is better than Star Wars: Why BioWare's sci-fi universe blows Lucas' to a galaxy far far away By CVG Staff.

Also for those that want to reward or punish BioWare for ME3, the Escapist is doing a Developers' Showdown. BioWare vs. Valve in the finals. So cast your vote, BioWare seems to care about this since they spammed Facebook about it.
I didn't think BioWare would make it to the finals, actually. But even without the ME3 controversy, I think Valve beats BioWare for me. They're consistent, make quality products and push the boundary. They're the Pixar of video games (pre-Cars 2, i.e.).


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Old 04-01-2012, 05:50 AM   #1483
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Still a better ending than ME3.

Also looking forward to Mars Effect. It also has a better ending apparently, enough to list it as a feature. Also waist-high walls - gotta love those. http://marseffect.net/
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:32 AM   #1484
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These guys make some good points but they really need to learn English.
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Also for those that want to reward or punish BioWare for ME3, the Escapist is doing a Developers' Showdown. BioWare vs. Valve in the finals. So cast your vote, BioWare seems to care about this since they spammed Facebook about it.
I notice that Blizzard Entertainment was conspicuously omitted from those proceedings.


"They should rename the team to the Washington Government Sucks. Put Obama on the helmet. Line the entire walls of the stadium with the actual text of the ACA.
Fix their home team score on the board to the debt clock, they can win every game 17,000,000,000,000 to 24. Losing team gets taxed by the IRS 100%, then droned."
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:59 AM   #1485
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Just finished ME3. What the **** was that. Those endings are just elaborate indoctrination dreams, right?


Right?
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Old 04-02-2012, 03:33 AM   #1486
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OK, one of he most level-headed people on the forum has spoken.

Is this game worth a play-through, or should I dedicate my precious time to something else?


EDIT: Not saying the rest of you are batsh!t or anything...


"They should rename the team to the Washington Government Sucks. Put Obama on the helmet. Line the entire walls of the stadium with the actual text of the ACA.
Fix their home team score on the board to the debt clock, they can win every game 17,000,000,000,000 to 24. Losing team gets taxed by the IRS 100%, then droned."
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:24 AM   #1487
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If you haven't felt compelled to play it before now then I'd probably wait a few weeks to see what they have in store for the future. At the very least I'd wait for the patch that is due out soon.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:45 AM   #1488
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Yeah, I'll probably wait awhile before I bother with acquiring it.


"They should rename the team to the Washington Government Sucks. Put Obama on the helmet. Line the entire walls of the stadium with the actual text of the ACA.
Fix their home team score on the board to the debt clock, they can win every game 17,000,000,000,000 to 24. Losing team gets taxed by the IRS 100%, then droned."
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:20 AM   #1489
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for ****s sake the last five minutes does not make or break a game. everything up to that point is awesome whatever you happen to think about the ending...
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:32 AM   #1490
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For you perhaps. Others would disagree. But what does it matter? If you enjoy it, more power to you. The fact that other people are unhappy with the ending (or love it for that matter) should be irrelevant to your personal enjoyment of the game.
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:03 AM   #1491
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Right. and by the same token, other people's relentless disapproval shouldn't put others off it.
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:05 AM   #1492
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I don't recall there being any posts intentionally to that effect.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:39 AM   #1493
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I'm just kind of disappointed that it didn't have drastically different ending scenes based on the many variables that occur throughout the three games. There are a few games that have done it before so it's not unheard of but Mass Effect would have been the first two do it over multiple games. Instead, while the events before the ending had differences, the ending itself all really just led to the same place to do practically the same thing. (Yes, I'm over simplifying that, different stuff happens to the galaxy based on that final decision) but to get there you have to go through a pretty narrow bottleneck instead of having the story branch out.

If the story had branched out due to all of those variables over the 3 games, it would've created great replay value for me and would have actually gotten me to go back and replay the trilogy all over again making different decisions to see where it would lead me to at the end of ME3.

I personally feel BioWare missed out on a great opportunity in this regard but am still pretty satisfied with the rest of the game.

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Old 04-02-2012, 09:17 AM   #1494
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Leaving aside issues of the recoloured videos and the like, the larger problem for the franchise as a whole is the status of the universe for future games, assuming that future games are to be set post-ME3. The choices they did offer don't seem overly compatible with one another. Namely,
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But by that point, is it even the ME universe any more?
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:35 AM   #1495
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I hope there's no more Mass Effect... and I say that not because of anything to do with the ending... I just want BioWare to move on to other things.

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Old 04-02-2012, 09:37 AM   #1496
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I can't see EA walking away from a franchise that hasn't been completely milked dry. Despite all the ending controversy, there's still plenty of money to be made from the ME franchise. Ditto Dragon Age.
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:55 AM   #1497
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Old 04-02-2012, 10:02 AM   #1498
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Hell, I would pay for a direct-to-DVD season of that April Fools cartoon.
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:49 PM   #1499
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Why you enjoy art and the one problem with Mass Effect 3

This guy is incredibly long-winded (and there are ending spoilers within, of course), but he sums up my displeasure with the ending rather nicely.

With that said, I don't regret going to the midnight release. I love everything else about this game, and I can see myself playing the hell out of it for a while.
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:08 PM   #1500
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Just finished ME3. What the **** was that. Those endings are just elaborate indoctrination dreams, right?


Right?
Not filling me with confidence Rhett!

I'm in Q's boat. I have the game and went through the opening into part. I'm having fun with other games right now and with all the complaining about the ending I haven't been compelled to drop everything and play it.

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Old 04-02-2012, 09:27 PM   #1501
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ME3 is a good game, it's just that very last part which puts a lot of folks off.

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Old 04-02-2012, 10:09 PM   #1502
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ME3 is a good game, it's just that very last part which puts a lot of folks off.
This. Probably the most accurate but concise statement that can be made about the game.
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:14 AM   #1503
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Yeah, I'm with Lynk.
In my opinion, the game is fantastic, and the best of the trilogy. It had amazing gameplay, emotion-filled cutscenes and there were little things that made the game mindblowing, such as the interaction of the squad being what it is, such as going down to the lounge and seeing Garrus have a war story-battle with James.

So far, it was set up to be the perfect ending to a fantastic trilogy, but then the ending came. Not only was it a horrible ending to Mass Effect 3, but also a horrible end to the trilogy. There was ONE thing the ending set up did that I liked;
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When Harbinger hits them all with the beam, and Shep wakes up, looking as bloody and worse for wear as he ever has done. This made me feel a sudden wave of shock and fear, because I realised at this point, that Shep IS human, and that he is mortal.


Call me dramatic.


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Old 04-03-2012, 05:37 AM   #1504
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I think that might have been the case had the realities of mortality not been lessened (or completely removed) by the start of ME2, where Shep is killed and brought back to life with space magic.
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Old 04-03-2012, 11:51 AM   #1505
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There was ONE thing the ending set up did that I liked;
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When Harbinger hits them all with the beam, and Shep wakes up, looking as bloody and worse for wear as he ever has done. This made me feel a sudden wave of shock and fear, because I realised at this point, that Shep IS human, and that he is mortal.
It's not just that part though. Shepard is wracked by fear, doubt, and regret throughout the whole game. They went to a lot of effort to paint him with a very human brush this time around. The scene you mentioned is just final part: at the end Shepard is reduced to little more than his will.
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:54 PM   #1506
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at the end Shepard is reduced to little more than his will.
Which is the reason I love the game so much and love movie characters like Indiana Jones and Jack Ryan so much. They did extraordinary things, but you always felt they were humans, not supermen with guns. I guess that is why I can forgive the ending somewhat for its short comings, because the ride up to that point was nearly perfect.

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The dreams annoyed me even more then the ending my first time through. It wasn't until I accepted they were part of the game and really listen to the voices did I understand the meaning of the dreams. It also helped me understand (in my own mind) why Casper looked the way it did.

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Old 04-03-2012, 01:39 PM   #1507
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They did extraordinary things, but you always felt they were humans, not supermen with guns.
This theme is especially prevalent in the sub-plot with James.
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:54 AM   #1508
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EA Announces Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut

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“We have reprioritized our post-launch development efforts"

Thanks guys.
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I was knocked off by that too. I always wanted something changed in the ending, but I didn't want it at the expense of other DLC, which is seemingly now the case. We only have ourselves to blame, though.


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Don't blame me.
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It's BioWare's fault for making the decision, they shouldn't have bowed to pressure in the first place.

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A fair point.
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By "reprioritized", I gather that just means they'll get that out the door first. All it will be is like a couple of minutes of cutscenes tacked on to the end to try and placate people. They aren't actually changing the ending. I doubt there will be much change in what other content they had planned. If anything they'll need more to make up for giving away that thing for free.
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It's BioWare's fault for making the decision, they shouldn't have bowed to pressure in the first place.
Clear example of the 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' scenario.

And does it seem to anyone else that Summer is a long wait for a few cut scenes?


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BioWare isn't the first developer to feel this kind of pressure and they're not going to be the last.

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And does it seem to anyone else that Summer is a long wait for a few cut scenes?
Not really. They didn't plan for it, so they have to start from scratch. Other DLC usually starts development before the game is released, so it is ready to go not long after launch.
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Clear example of the 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' scenario.
Meh. In all fairness, it probably isn't that bad.

This sounds optional, so the people that like the game the way it is won't suffer anything other than a delay on DLC that they will probably buy anyway. On the other hand, some percentage of the people who felt the end needed more will get what they want. Granted some percentage won't, but I suspect that Bioware knows this already.

So they won't lose anything with the people that liked the game and might move a few more people into that category. Whether or not that number is sufficient to justify the odd precedent that they are setting will have to be determined later.

EDIT: Looks like there's a FAQ up already.

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Looks like there's a FAQ up already.
Nothing I can't live with there. Maybe they will have more Tail in the Extended Cut.
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My sources told me that they are saving that for the pay DLC. Apparently, there are plans for a mini-game involving the buttons on Tali's suit and some QTEs and a special "Achievement".
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