9/11

[Tommycat]

I loved Sam Kinison. Shame he couldn't have died old fat and of some weird venereal disease.

[Totenkopf]

Originally Posted by mimartin

More like all of the above...You put 5 Americans in any room and you get 25 different opinions on any subject.

Samara'd have approved.

Sam was freakin' hilarious.

As to the whole susceptability to killing others, I agree that for most of us it might be a matter of education/environment, but there's also genetics to consider. Some people (as individuals, not groups) are just more predisposed toward violence. You could spend your life teaching people to love one another, but the right set of circumstances can reduce us to savages. When you start wedding things like ideologies (secular or theological) with ambitions and ignorance, you get a volatile explosive mix.

Re the whole west vs islam issue and terrorism in general, it mostly seems to be a case of asymetrical warfare. Most, if not all, radical muslims know that they cannot defeat the US (or Russia, Europe, PRC, etc..) on the field of battle and must find other ways to defeat their sworn enemies. This is part of the reason I don't buy framing the "war on terror" as a law enforcement issue. I'd also guess that a lot of westerners in general, and Americans specifically, might be less suspicious of muslims if they fought harder (or even at all in many cases) to control the radicals amonst them. No doubt that many muslims might say they'd be less antagonistic toward the west if it weren't so meddlesome in their backyards.

[Q]

Originally Posted by thejman217

@LynkFormer: not political views, but religious views.

There's a difference?

[thejman217]

Originally Posted by Q

There's a difference?

Are you being sarcastic?

[Q]

Not at all.

[thejman217]

Political view=politics

Religious view=religion

[Q]

They're one and the same.

Politics=religion.

LOL@both.

[LDR]

Originally Posted by Q

They're one and the same.

Politics=religion.

LOL@both.

Government and religion are intertwined.

Just look at the views of the Republican Party.

[Q]

The Democrats are no better; their BS is just more of a secular nature.

[Totenkopf]

Originally Posted by LDR

Just look at the views of the Republican Party.

Actully that's an oversimplification. Both parties in America are composed of mostly religious people. The dems take from the "feed, clothe, etc... the poor" and the republicans favor things like traditional marriage and anti-abortion stances.

While I wouldn't go quite as far as Q in making religion and politics one as one in the same, both share many similiarities (any/all sides having set ideas and the conviction that they are right) and often use many of the same tactics to advance their causes.

[LDR]

Which brings me to another thing.

The creation of political parties is one of the things Washington advised against, isn't it? As well as shoving our fingers into foreign countries' affairs?

[thejman217]

Originally Posted by LDR

Which brings me to another thing.

The creation of political parties is one of the things Washington advised against, isn't it? As well as shoving our fingers into foreign countries' affairs?

Haha; he didn't really say that did he?

Originally Posted by Q

The Democrats are no better; their BS is just more of a secular nature.

So you don't follow politics? (I don't either). Who do you NOT want to get elected this year?

[LDR]

Originally Posted by thejman217

Haha; he didn't really say that did he?

Not the exact words. They were actually along the lines of this: "Restrict your dealings in the foreign affairs of Europe."

Originally Posted by thejman217

Who do you NOT want to get elected this year?

Obama and Romney.

Gary Johnson for President.

[Q]

Originally Posted by thejman217

Who do you NOT want to get elected this year?

Flip a coin.

[thejman217]

Originally Posted by Q

Flip a coin.

HAHAHAHAHA XD. I'm glad I joined this forum.

This conversation went from 9/11 to George Washington, Obama, and Romney.

[LDR]

Originally Posted by thejman217

HAHAHAHAHA XD. I'm glad I joined this forum.

This conversation went from 9/11 to George Washington, Obama, and Romney.

And Gary Johnson.

[Sabretooth]

Originally Posted by thejman217

HAHAHAHAHA XD. I'm glad I joined this forum.

This conversation went from 9/11 to George Washington, Obama, and Romney.

[thejman217]

Originally Posted by Sabretooth

I will regret taking this conversation to a different direction?

Why?

[LDR]

Originally Posted by thejman217

I will regret taking this conversation to a different direction?

Why?

You will regret your ignorance for not knowing Gary Johnson.

[Lynk Former]

I'm usually pretty good about threads going in their own direction, but this is getting stupid... I mean more than usual.

[thejman217]

Originally Posted by LDR

And Gary Johnson.

Gary Johnson.......the politician?

[LDR]

Originally Posted by thejman217

Gary Johnson.......the politician?

The Libertarian Party presidential nominee.

I thought you guys were educated.

[thejman217]

@LDR: Lol, how did you get so many badges?

[Lynk Former]

Originally Posted by thejman217

@LDR: Lol, how did you get so many badges?

Try using the private messaging system next time.

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